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loucks10 05-01-2013 05:34 PM

Help on door alignment!
 
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I have a '52 chevy that I can't seem to get the doors fitting properly. I've tried horsing them into alignment, but it won't work. What's going on is the bottom of the door protrudes from the cab, and the top hits the cab. I do not seem to have any more wiggle room with the hinge holes. Any tips? The hinges are brand new fyi.

Dan in Pasadena 05-01-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by loucks10 (Post 6045951)
... The hinges are brand new fyi.

Repop hinges.....likely your problem. The door shape and the door opening shape DIDN'T change since it was built.

Compare the repop to the factory hinge hole locations and see if you can tell where the difference may be.

msaintg 05-01-2013 06:21 PM

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I had the EXACT same problem with my brand new hinges!! I even had to raise the doors 1/2"! Send them back! I ordered my hinges from Classic parts and they were VERY helpful. They replaced the hinges with hinges from another vendor (Dynacorn) and they worked a lot better. Still have to do some extra slotting and the door side of the hinges, but they are now flush with the cab.

loucks10 05-08-2013 10:53 AM

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I bought the hinges from Chevs of the 40's. They were helpful, but said these had been the best hinges they have supplied. They said that the Dynacorn hinges were returned in large amounts and they had many more problems with them. I can send them back for a refund, but they say that what I have are the best they can get. Damn.

dicer 05-11-2013 04:35 AM

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You may have to heat the hinge and bend it some. I don't really know the AD trucks that well though.

FarmerSid 05-11-2013 08:31 AM

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What about rebuilding your old ones?

msaintg 05-11-2013 12:49 PM

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see if you can move the doors up a little, that will actually change the protrusion at the top and bottom. I did have to modify my door hinges a little by bending them (you do not need to heat them up or take them apart to do it). It is hard to explain how, and I don't have any pics. But basically, chuck the flat part up in a vice as close to the sharp bend as possible (with the hinge pin facing you). Grab the large curved portion with a large pipe wrench. Bend it toward you if you want to pull the door in and away from you if you want to push the door out. ONLY bend it a little (like 1/8"). It makes a huge difference. I will try to get some pics.

dwcsr 05-11-2013 01:24 PM

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I see you did some pillar work on the lower hinge area and wheel house. That could greatly affect the alignment. I might pull all the hinges off completely and prop the door in place to make sure it does actually fit. If it all looks good find some rebuildable used hinges.

pgf545 05-11-2013 04:59 PM

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I cheated on ours. I welded one side of the slot and then milled the slots on a mill. Could probably do the same thing with a die grinder and a carbide burr. our drivers side had been hit real bad and even with the original hinges and trying my best to get everything aligned I had the same problem. The door gaps are not really that great anyway since these trucks were work trucks. I think the only way to make them perfect is to do alot of cutting and rework something that I wasn't going to do....lol. I thought I had some picture but guess I never took any.

Bernie

loucks10 05-14-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pgf545 (Post 6065149)
I cheated on ours. I welded one side of the slot and then milled the slots on a mill. Could probably do the same thing with a die grinder and a carbide burr. our drivers side had been hit real bad and even with the original hinges and trying my best to get everything aligned I had the same problem. The door gaps are not really that great anyway since these trucks were work trucks. I think the only way to make them perfect is to do alot of cutting and rework something that I wasn't going to do....lol. I thought I had some picture but guess I never took any.

Bernie

This was what I was thinking of doing...

loucks10 05-14-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FarmerSid (Post 6064498)
What about rebuilding your old ones?

Too poor of condition...

oldcouple 05-15-2013 01:32 PM

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Not sure on these years, but is it possible to put them on upside down? Like maybe left for right, the holes could look the same but be offset a little bit.


great howto vid here.


http://youtu.be/aEoBFw8kaTE

loucks10 05-16-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by oldcouple (Post 6072721)
Not sure on these years, but is it possible to put them on upside down? Like maybe left for right, the holes could look the same but be offset a little bit.


great howto vid here.


http://youtu.be/aEoBFw8kaTE

Can't put them upside down because the bolt holes are in a triangle pattern.

parkwood 05-16-2013 10:57 PM

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Just a couple questions to see if i can get a handle on what's going on.. Did you replace the cowl panel on the drivers side? does the door stick out at the rear like the front? The way it shows in the pictures are body lines lining up?

loucks10 05-17-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by parkwood (Post 6075467)
Just a couple questions to see if i can get a handle on what's going on.. Did you replace the cowl panel on the drivers side? does the door stick out at the rear like the front? The way it shows in the pictures are body lines lining up?

Yes, the cowl panels on both sides were replaced. The actual cab pillar where the hinges mount to were not altered, though. The body lines are good on it. Yes, the door sticks out on the rear like the front. I really think it's just the way the hinges were reproduced.

parkwood 05-17-2013 12:26 PM

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could you post a picture of the door open showing the hinges and maybe one from the back. the more angles the better..

msaintg 05-22-2013 03:50 PM

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chuck the flat part up in a vice as close to the sharp bend as possible (with the hinge pin facing you). Grab the large curved portion with a large pipe wrench. Bend it toward you if you want to pull the door in and away from you if you want to push the door out. ONLY bend it a little (like 1/8"). It makes a huge difference.

I found some pics for you. The first pics shows how to move the door IN and the second pic shows how to move the door OUT

loucks10 05-22-2013 04:04 PM

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I will try to get some better pics posted this wknd

OrrieG 05-22-2013 06:57 PM

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msaintg, thanks for the pics, we will know in a few hours if it solves my door problem.

FarmerSid 03-11-2014 07:11 PM

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Bringing this back up. I think I have to bend my hinge a bit. The belt line matches up fine at the back of the door but is sunk about a 1/4" at the belt line at the front of the door at the cowl.

How'd this work out for you OrrieG?

MARTINSR 03-11-2014 07:14 PM

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These doors always fit a little odd down there, but yours is crazy off, you can't bring the door in there that much because it will throw OUT the upper rear corner. Has that cowl panel been replaced, it looks new.

Brian

55dude 03-12-2014 02:35 AM

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these doors never fit very well. my uncle has 52' 2T with 17K original in 1990 and as a kid i was taught never to lean against the door! this of course was AFTER i fell out going down the road. cab mounts will affect them.

MARTINSR 03-12-2014 09:42 AM

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I didn't realize this was so old when I commented. The original poster has hopefully gotten this straightened out.

As for you Farmer Sid, post some photos. Before you go bending the hinges let's make sure that is REALLY what is needed.

Brian

FarmerSid 03-12-2014 10:22 AM

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Here's a few pictures Brian.

The gap is fine. It's just that the door is pushed in about 1/4".

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_5640.jpg



The rear of the door lines up good with the belt line.

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_5636.jpg

OrrieG 03-12-2014 12:54 PM

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I got mine aligned, but since it was 8 months ago cannot remember how much was bending the hinge, or other adjustments. I do remember having the upper hinge in the vice and tweaking it a little bit. But like Martin saws pushing one corner out pulls the opposite one in, the other diagonal corners act like a fulcrum.


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