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Dieselwrencher 04-09-2014 10:36 PM

Re: 86 Silverado K20 12V CUMMINS Build
 
It turned out really nice! Nice work.

shopteacher 06-15-2014 09:46 AM

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All I can say is Way to hang in there! Great Info and attention to detail ! Too bad your not closer as I have a couple of divorced 205's one drivers side and the other passengers side drop!
Well spring should be about over up there and I'm looking forward to seeing more, so keep up the good work!

Cheers !!

brimc 06-17-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by shopteacher (Post 6721724)
All I can say is Way to hang in there! Great Info and attention to detail ! Too bad your not closer as I have a couple of divorced 205's one drivers side and the other passengers side drop!
Well spring should be about over up there and I'm looking forward to seeing more, so keep up the good work!

Cheers !!

Thanks for the comments. I too wish you were closer as there is nothing anywhere in a 205. Still searching kijiji every week but they are very rare and made of gold up here.

brimc 11-23-2014 04:45 PM

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Wow. Been 5 months since last post. Couldn't find the build, way down pg.2
Well it has been a crappy and busy couple of months. We found out of the 4th of July that my father had cancer. We all found out the same day, even him. The next 6 weeks was a battle that I would not wish on my worst enemy. He only came home once for a few rough days the 2nd week of July and passed away on the 10th of August. That was a whir wind blur of a 6 week span.
One of the last things he said to me on one of the last nights when he was still responsive was that he still wanted to see "that truck run".
Needless to say, I haven't hardly worked on the truck. But I did do some cab work in the late spring and now in this last week I worked on the engine. After I get my uploads finished on my super slow internet Ill have some updates.

brimc 11-23-2014 06:45 PM

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Last spring I cut out all the rust and patched up the floors with 18gauge. I rebuilt-replaced the two skis with 3/16 angle.

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...psktmdgzww.jpg

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...pstvzgzc0s.jpg

Got the doors hung and setup-replaced the rockers and cab corners.

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...psgtnbijcr.jpg

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...psdkdsqbjd.jpg

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...psthgsujni.jpg

I have got the cab completely welded. Just needs some more finish sanding then it will be ready for the POR15 treatment.

brimc 11-23-2014 06:54 PM

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So fast forward from last spring until mid October. I was thinking about all the times during the winter that I have time to work in the garage but just can't for more than a few min because I can't feel my fingers anymore.
So........................
I installed a zero cost reclaimed SS chimney out the back wall.

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...psk3xjnvvp.jpg

and then installed a freebee wood stove/furnace.

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...psqwcqqumg.jpg

So far it works awesome. :metal:

y5mgisi 11-23-2014 07:02 PM

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Drooling over the heated shop!

brimc 11-23-2014 07:07 PM

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So last Sunday I fired up the stove in the Garage and un covered the Cummins. I picked up everything needed to button up the engine. Front crank seal and gaskets, valve cover gaskets, engine oil, filters etc, etc, etc.

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...pslwfhv6zg.jpg

While I had it apart, I decided to re-do the KDP and loc tite and re-torque the front housing bolts.

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...pspjn0quio.jpg

Made my own from the scrap drawer in the tool box

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...psupvq2tgv.jpg

Tabbed for good. ( I hope )

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...psqbam9lkc.jpg

brimc 11-23-2014 07:21 PM

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I dont seem to have any pictures after I did the KDP. I guess I was so excited to work on the truck I never even thought about the camera.
Today I hooked up a battery, put some fuel in a can and primed the fuel system. I have ran out of diesel before and I have heard and read on the internet that it can be a real bear to prime, but it went real smooth. This engine has gone smoke free for approx 32months. I pulled the engine exactly 2 years ago this month from the Dodge. Here is a short small low quality walk around video of the "second" start in the new Chevy!! :metal::metal::metal:
Hopefully this works for everyone.

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...pstcfevpds.mp4

Mr. 250r 11-23-2014 08:05 PM

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I don't know why the big 3 manufacturers don't do this but on the stuff i build at work we use 3 motors only a qsb 6.7/4.5 cummins or a deutz but disregarding the deutz on the cummins we use a fuel filter that has a hand primer on it literally best invention i have seen i wish regular trucks had them because running out of fuel would be a thing of the past you unscrew the handle prime it till the handle is really hard to push in and they start right up. It has a regular quick disconnect line that goes to the pump not sure if its high pressure but the other line we use is regular rubber lines for the return.

If you want i can look for a part # on it i am sure its there somewhere.

Its somewhat similar to this picture

brimc 11-23-2014 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 250r (Post 6929881)
I don't know why the big 3 manufacturers don't do this but on the stuff i build at work we use 3 motors only a qsb 6.7/4.5 cummins or a deutz but disregarding the deutz on the cummins we use a fuel filter that has a hand primer on it literally best invention i have seen i wish regular trucks had them because running out of fuel would be a thing of the past you unscrew the handle prime it till the handle is really hard to push in and they start right up. It has a regular quick disconnect line that goes to the pump not sure if its high pressure but the other line we use is regular rubber lines for the return.

If you want i can look for a part # on it i am sure its there somewhere.

Its somewhat similar to this picture



That is very interesting. Looks like a neat setup.
My current plan is to use the stock setup. When I get the truck drivable I will then start the mods on the fuel system.
The 2nd Gen Cummins lift pump has a "primer bulb" built in. It works very good. I use it at filter changes and one time I ran out of fuel on the side of the road.
I used this about 30 to 40 pumps today. It filled all the line, fuel canister and the IP.

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...se372a1e5.jpeg

Old picture from tear down but the rubber boot thing on the side of the lift pump is the primer.

brimc 11-23-2014 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by y5mgisi (Post 6929784)
Drooling over the heated shop!

I'm still drooling too. Oh you have no idea. :metal:

COS399 11-23-2014 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brimc (Post 6929609)
Wow. Been 5 months since last post. Couldn't find the build, way down pg.2
Well it has been a crappy and busy couple of months. We found out of the 4th of July that my father had cancer. We all found out the same day, even him. The next 6 weeks was a battle that I would not wish on my worst enemy. He only came home once for a few rough days the 2nd week of July and passed away on the 10th of August. That was a whir wind blur of a 6 week span.
One of the last things he said to me on one of the last nights when he was still responsive was that he still wanted to see "that truck run".
Needless to say, I haven't hardly worked on the truck. But I did do some cab work in the late spring and now in this last week I worked on the engine. After I get my uploads finished on my super slow internet Ill have some updates.

Brian, Sorry to hear about your loss. Glad to see your making some good progress and that heater is going to come in handy. I have to drive about 16 miles, to use my friends heated shop. One day I will have my own heated shop. :lol:

Dieselwrencher 11-24-2014 03:25 AM

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So sorry to hear about your father! The engine sounds great. Nice rust repair, and I'm sure the heater will be used a lot there s winter, unfortunately.

brimc 11-27-2014 06:49 PM

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Thanks guys.
Ya the engine does sound good. I was starting to get worried because it has sat so long plus I had the injection pump off. Guess I got the pin timing right. :lol:
After I get the truck drivable I want to upgrade the fuel system with better lines, filters, free mods etc. For now, just to know it runs, is good enough for me. Thinking about getting rid of the saddle tank as well and go with the rear burban style. Seams to be the popular way to go. I have been keeping an eye out in the classifieds etc for a 88 to 91 suburban for a parts wagon.

Dieselwrencher 11-28-2014 04:04 PM

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You need to find someone near you with the timing kit and add some timing. That is a well worth mod on these. Around 15 is great for a DD/tow rig with minimal mods.

brimc 11-29-2014 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 6937030)
You need to find someone near you with the timing kit and add some timing. That is a well worth mod on these. Around 15 is great for a DD/tow rig with minimal mods.

I have done a fair bit of homework on this and yes timing will need to be done. I was looking at kits on-line when I was getting ready to install the pump but they are pricey. Not something that would be used very much but would make a very nice addition to the tool box collection for sure. I plan on doing all the adjustments and mods on the p7100 after I get it drivable. Then I can have a comparison for turning etc.
Your not that far from southern Ontario are you? ;)

Dieselwrencher 11-30-2014 11:16 AM

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You can get them from Snap-on for $189. When I purchased mine I paid $489. Yes, I'm more than bitter about that. :lol:

6BT 56 11-30-2014 11:32 AM

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You and I are less than a hr apart . We can split on Ryan's travel costs and he can tweak my pump as well . lol. Truck is looking good . Like your new heater as well. Im just in the process of rigging up a waste oil heater . Go to YouTube some time and type in efficient waste oil heater. The guy in the vid looks like relic from beachcombers Heater is kick ass . He has done lots of homework to get it to this level

Dieselwrencher 11-30-2014 12:00 PM

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:lol: That could be a fun trip. Speaking of heaters, I managed to get a fuel oil/diesel burning furnace I have to get installed in my shop.

brimc 11-30-2014 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 6938788)
You can get them from Snap-on for $189. When I purchased mine I paid $489. Yes, I'm more than bitter about that. :lol:

Ya I seen some on the internet and remembered thinking that was a lot of money. It would be cheaper than trying to get someone to do it at a diesel shop tho. 489 ya, that is a lot of money but I'm guessing you get to use it more than I would so eventually it would pay for itself.

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Originally Posted by 6BT 56 (Post 6938805)
You and I are less than a hr apart . We can split on Ryan's travel costs and he can tweak my pump as well . lol. Truck is looking good . Like your new heater as well. Im just in the process of rigging up a waste oil heater . Go to YouTube some time and type in efficient waste oil heater. The guy in the vid looks like relic from beachcombers Heater is kick ass . He has done lots of homework to get it to this level

If you had the p7100 pump we could just split the cost of the tool kit then figure out how to setup joint custody and which weekends etc :lol:

On the waste oil heaters, my buddy does alot of oil changes throughout the year and he stores the waste oil in a regular furnace oil tank and has it piped in to the heater. It puts out good heat. The fuel is free but he had high start up cost if I remember as he bought all new stuff. But if you could piece together some items from around the farm, shop, or kijiji you'd be laughing.

Dieselwrencher 11-30-2014 03:43 PM

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When you get to the point of adjusting your timing, let me know. We have two kits and I could probably send you one and let you borrow it.

72MARIO 11-30-2014 09:33 PM

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If you can take a week off and come up here I am only another hour and a bit north of Brian. I can hire you to mount a cummins in my longhorn chassis. :)

Dieselwrencher 12-01-2014 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 72MARIO (Post 6939585)
If you can take a week off and come up here I am only another hour and a bit north of Brian. I can hire you to mount a cummins in my longhorn chassis. :)

2wd or 4wd?

72MARIO 12-01-2014 08:06 PM

Re: 86 Silverado K20 12V CUMMINS Build
 
Haven't decided yet. I would like to build 4wd but really don't want too big of a lift in it as its my daily work truck and I need access to the flat bed.


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