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dano3 10-03-2015 10:39 PM

CPP bent panhard bar
 
Got ready to put bar on and it hits on the diff cover. I have the deluxe bracket but it seems the driver side is too far forward do I have to relocate this. My truck is a 64.

NASTY-LSX 10-03-2015 10:56 PM

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they should have told you or product should have said modifications would be or not be needed. You will need to call them Monday. Almost all there parts do not need modifications to install. Hope all works out.

Ghernandez66 10-03-2015 11:19 PM

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you probably have the same problem Im having, the shop who installed the bar in my truck didn't research and used a bar that goes on the stock location but once I go too low the bar hits the diff cover. what we need is the long bar that relocates to the trailing arm I believe poterbuilt has one for like 200 bucks. good luck

Slow Build 10-04-2015 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghernandez66 (Post 7329158)
what we need is the long bar that relocates to the trailing arm

The CPP bent bar does mount to the trailing arm. I just got mine but I haven't mounted it yet. Here's a picture and link to instructions.

http://www.classicperform.com/tech_a...-Solutions.htm

dano3 10-04-2015 03:03 PM

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Thought I would get a pic of what I was talking about, where my hand is the side that touches the diff cover

The Rocknrod 10-04-2015 05:46 PM

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Oh - well, that explains it.
I'm sure they couldn't account for that differential cover in their manufacturing process.

Slow Build 10-04-2015 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rocknrod (Post 7329939)
Oh - well, that explains it.

x2

NevEno 10-04-2015 08:17 PM

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The one that says fits 63-72 will not work on the 64. Unless CPP started making a bent bar for the 1964 The bracket on the frame is different. That bar only fits 65-72 without modifications.

The Rocknrod 10-04-2015 08:21 PM

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Bracket on the frame, please explain.
I'm hoping O'l Slow Build will discuss this when he installs it on his 64. Then I will buy one - or not. :)

NevEno 10-04-2015 08:35 PM

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This is the pan hard bar mount on my 65.

NevEno 10-04-2015 08:36 PM

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This is the pan hard bar mount on my 64.

Slow Build 10-04-2015 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rocknrod (Post 7330150)
I'm hoping O'l Slow Build will discuss this when he installs it on his 64. Then I will buy one - or not. :)

My 64 is sitting on a 65 frame so my driver side bracket will be slightly different. Also I won't be mounting it for a little while. I have a few other things to do before I get to the rear suspension.

Dano, what rear end do you have in your truck? Judging by the original panhard mount location on the diff it's at least a 65. You might have to go with a short adjustable panhard bar to that location instead of relocating to the trailing arm.

dano3 10-04-2015 09:14 PM

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Its from a 71 c10

The Rocknrod 10-04-2015 11:40 PM

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I am missing something still on why it wont fit. Length?
http://www.classicperform.com/Store/...ck/CP32021.htm

russellrox 10-05-2015 12:20 AM

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is there any way to adapt the stock panhard bar to make this work, my diff is the same as this one with the stud mounted to the top right of the diff housing, my truck is a 66 c20 that is converted to a c10 with the 71 rear diff. I was wondering if there is a place to find a oscilating ball mount so I could weld one on so the bar doesn't have to be bent to mount in the stock location. My truck is a 66 btw.

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Originally Posted by Slow Build (Post 7329248)
The CPP bent bar does mount to the trailing arm. I just got mine but I haven't mounted it yet. Here's a picture and link to instructions.

http://www.classicperform.com/tech_a...-Solutions.htm


chevy_mike 10-05-2015 10:55 AM

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IIRC, the CPP bent style bar was made to clear a Ford 9" housing. It was not made originally to clear aftermarket diff covers for the stock 12 bolt. That said, most aftermarket panhard bars won't clear the diff covers that have the bearing cap supports, regardless of who make them.

Problem is not the bar, it's the diff cover.

dano3 10-05-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chevy_mike (Post 7330783)
IIRC, the CPP bent style bar was made to clear a Ford 9" housing. It was not made originally to clear aftermarket diff covers for the stock 12 bolt. That said, most aftermarket panhard bars won't clear the diff covers that have the bearing cap supports, regardless of who make them.

Problem is not the bar, it's the diff cover.

But I still have to push bar towards the cover to get it in the mounting place, so the bar is not at the right angle. I hope this made sense, so I might move mount to where the bar is not bound up.

Slow Build 10-05-2015 11:30 PM

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Can you show more pictures of the whole bar and brackets installed? It's kinda hard to tell what's going on from just one picture.

The Rocknrod 10-06-2015 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dano3 (Post 7331566)
But I still have to push bar towards the cover to get it in the mounting place, so the bar is not at the right angle. I hope this made sense, so I might move mount to where the bar is not bound up.

Or you could change the diff cover and it will fit. Or not. :)

chevy_mike 10-06-2015 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dano3 (Post 7331566)
But I still have to push bar towards the cover to get it in the mounting place, so the bar is not at the right angle. I hope this made sense, so I might move mount to where the bar is not bound up.

How much are you having to push the bar? 1/2" or less, that is likely production variances.

dano3 10-06-2015 06:43 PM

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I took these pics of the bar where it wants to go, where the bracket is how much I have to push it in place but wont of diff cover. As you can see if I went this route it would miss the diff cover.

NevEno 10-06-2015 09:34 PM

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I've already spoke with CPP about this issue and they agreed that it won't work.. The bent bar only works on 65-72 because the frame mount on the 63 and 64 are different. see above pictures. It may be hard to tell but the angles are different. I ended up giving mine to a buddy and ordered a Porter Built trac-bar. You can move the frame mount. Hope this helps

crakarjax 07-30-2016 07:54 PM

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I've got that same panhard mount on my 68 3/4t longbed... looks like I'm going to have to relocate the bracket based on the feedback here.

The Rocknrod 07-30-2016 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NevEno (Post 7332648)
I've already spoke with CPP about this issue and they agreed that it won't work.. The bent bar only works on 65-72 because the frame mount on the 63 and 64 are different. see above pictures. It may be hard to tell but the angles are different. I ended up giving mine to a buddy and ordered a Porter Built trac-bar. You can move the frame mount. Hope this helps

Thats why I changed my frame bracket for the panhard bar to a 65. Sits right where it needs to be.

NevEno 07-30-2016 09:53 PM

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Hope this helps

http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...psgkqcldwi.jpg

1963-1964

http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...pswqjfepx5.jpg

65-72
The CPP bent bar works in this location

http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...psyaucokui.jpg


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