The first year for two-tone paint?
 

So... I know that my '70 is a repaint. But what was OFFICIALLY the first year for the two-tone paint scheme? White roof, with the CENTER white paint. The resto catalogs seem to suggest 1970. Other sources say 1971. I see a lot of '70s with this paint. Are any of them original? What is the real truth?

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70 had white below lower molding. 71 started the white between belt and lower molding.

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Is it possible 1970 had both combinations?

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anything is possible as we've discovered several inconsistencies between plants occurring during the same model year.

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Factory two-tone paint .... 1970

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You might try clicking through the various generic info packets located in the GM Heritage Center archive:

http://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-h...tion-kits.html

They will show any and all option content for the various model years. That would eliminate any guesswork (for those that seek the truth).

K

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These can't ALL be fakes...
http://image.customclassictrucks.com...right-view.jpg
http://www.autotraderclassics.com/im..._505904423.jpg
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...6&d=1280035260
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/...eb798ca6_m.jpg
http://images.copart.com/website/dat...9381393_1X.JPG
http://images.copart.com/website/dat...8621673_2X.JPG
http://images.copart.com/website/dat...7312480_2X.JPG
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...nt_3-4_Web.jpg

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Here's a '71 with the so-called "67-70" two-tone:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/09...ps445f1eb1.jpg

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Yes they can! The 400 series style paint is very often added to trucks to dress them up. I've even seen Cheyenne Supers deemed to be fakes because they didn't have the optional Deluxe Two-Tone paint.

So to break things down again (I get to do this a lot),

The two principle secodary colors were code 526 Ivory/Off-White (67-68), 521 White (69 only) and a slightly different white 521 White (70-72). In almost any case a quick check of the SPID will tell you the original colors and the paint configuration.


67-72 Conventional Two-Tone, White roof in the industry classic two-tone scheme. The three basic variations were 67 only in Ivory/Off-White from the drip rails up and back, 68 full upper cab in Ivory/Off-White and 69-72 full upper cab in White.


69-70 Special Two-Tone, White roof and rockers (below the lower bodyside molding). Think WHITE/GREEN/WHITE. It was also used on the 50th (code 551) trucks in 68 with the 526 Ivory/Off-White. This may have been offered on early 71 trucks, if you have one please get me the SPID codes. Finally, it was heavily used on Suburbans 69-72.


70-72 Custom Two-Tone, Select contrasting color other than white on the roof only. Think DARK BLUE/MED BLUE or BLACK/HUGGER ORANGE. Looks just like the basic Conventional Two-Tone but without White (see post #5).


71-72 Deluxe Two-Tone, (400 series, 4XX paint code) White roof and between the body side moldings. Think WHITE/BLUE/WHITE/BLUE.


To help illustrate these different paint schemes I have added a color chart from a series I'm working on. This particular chart is applicable to 71-72s with the 510 Medium Blue primary body color

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Well, there's the period to end the sentence! It's nice to have some valid information to help clarify these things. Learn something new every day, but today has challenged my memory retention!

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This should be stickied! I figured those 3 junkers had original paint, especially the one with all the patina.

So is it possible this could have been a special order in 1970 and would not have been offered normally from the factory, thus the lack of the 400 paint code?

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What's the paint code on your SPID? Whatever it is, that's how your truck was originally painted.

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[QUOTE=StoningtonQB;6697206]This should be stickied! I figured those 3 junkers had original paint, especially the one with all the patina.

The green and white one has "patina" on the hood cause the engine caught fire

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To reiterate what Bruceman said the SPID paint code is your key.
My guess is your truck has a 5XX code.

If it was by some stretch a factory "special paint" it would have a notation as such on the SPID.

Most likely it was added as the current configuration of your tailgate would indicate.


Back to a general timeline.

Here is a February 70 dated sales bulletin covering the then available Two-Tone schemes and the codes for the newly released Custom Two-Tones.

As far as an early release,
If you look the 71 brochure dated August of 70 it shows a Deluxe Two-Tone truck and is the earliest I can recall coming across. The 71 GM sales data download I have is dated March 15,1971 and it shows a change to the Deluxe Two-Tone indicating it was offered before that point. The change was likely to add or price update the Cheyenne Super application due to Super's late 71 release.

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I will have to dig out a pic of the SPID, but I was the second owner of a
white top/white center Dark Gold 1970 Custom... :box:

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Please post a picture of your SPID when you can, Thanks

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What designates 2 tone? Side and bed? 1957 Cameo, and 1956 similar.

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Looks like my truck had a 541 code that isn't listed above.
It also doesn't have a Special Paint code, but has the D89 Paint Stripe
that my 71 had, but it was the double pinstripe on that truck. Hmm...
I do know that the original owner was the Sales Manager at the dealership
and he ordered it exactly how he wanted it, but that doesn't quite pan out.
Maybe an order change after the SPID was printed?

http://www2.n-c.com/ebay/other/1970c10spid.jpg
http://www2.n-c.com/ebay/other/1970c10.jpg

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House13, thanks for posting your SPID. RPO Code 541 is the conventional two tone code for 527 DK. Gold Poly and 521 White. When your truck left the factory it had a white roof and A pillars and a DK. Gold body. There was no white in the center or below the rockers. Sounds like the dealer had the truck painted, center white, in the body shop, at the dealership . Or the first owner had the center painted 521 white. But from the factory it was a conventional two truck.
BTW that's a very nice looking truck you have there. And the yellow 67 your looking at is a real sweetheart. Definitely grab that 67 if you can.

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Nope. The SPID is printed as the truck is going down the final part of the assembly line (well after the truck has been painted).

K

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Out of bounds.

I assume the topic here is specific to '67-'72 model years.

K

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Thanks, unfortunately I sold it a couple of years ago for dirt cheap.
The '67 is still sitting there, and I am still trying to buy it...
It also is owned by the original owner, but his kid is "going to fix it up some day".
:barf:

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house 13 : your truck was a brother to the 1969 cst I had , it was the same paint top to bottom as yours, I do not know if mine came that way but I bought it in 1971 and it was painted that way. I have no idea if it was painted on the side before I got it or it came from the factory , but I like the two tones a lot... sold it in 1988 so no spid available...

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House13's truck is a perfect example of a post-production modified truck.
The side panel was painted white and the upper/belt molding was added.

As I said before many trucks were paint/repainted in the Deluxe Two-Tone style to mimic a factory offering and still are.

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Oddly enough, it must have been done at the dealer prior to delivery,
because I was told it looked that way the day he brought it home...

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It's not so hard to believe they were painted AFTER they rolled off the dealership lot. I bet a lot of buyers were upset to throw down money on a truck only to see the new models with a "better" in their opinion paint scheme. How many brand new Camaros, Challengers, Mustangs have been painted within 6 months of ownership? I know at least 10 in my hometown and have a friend that didn't even drive his Camaro off the lot he had it trailered to a paint shop to add stripes and a cut and buff.

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My 68 was Ochre body color with white roof and below the trim.

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Are you claiming this as factory applied paint in 68? What are you paint codes? My understanding is 511 Ochre (and two-tone variations) was a 70-1/2 spring release used from 70-74.

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There are 3 of these exact 1968 trucks, my GMC and 2 Chevys this same two color combo here in my town. I believe mines original paint faded, patina, etc.I just bought some rattle cans of the factory paint codes and even sprayed some on my friends original paint truck to check and its an exact match. Also had this Red 67 GMC shortie, small window and never saw another 67 anything but one solid color scheme, you can see many of the factory colors (Chevy Hood) on it since it used parts from 5 different trucks. The 67 ended up this orange with red clear coat.

I could have missed other 67 colors (joking) Don't know if that helps or confuses.

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I thought it was. I' ll have to check and get back to you.

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I may be mistaken but that upper/lower trim combo was not even available until 1971. Did they put prototype trim on it too? I'm alright being wrong but this does not sound legit to me.

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The B85 upper/belt molding was available from 69 on.
The BX2 lower wide molding was introduced in 69 replacing the earlier narrow B98 bodyside moldings.

The Deluxe Two-Tone paint applied between the upper and lower moldings was production option for 71-72.

As to House13's truck. Almost two years ago he posted to a thread clearly stating then his truck was a D89 pinstripe truck.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...8&postcount=20
Unfortunately "I was told..." is nothing you can ever take to the bank.

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No. A dealer is not going to have "prototype" trim to put on, especially anyplace other than southeast Michigan. Only engineering would have pre-production material.

K

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My truck originally had a lower white paint feature. It belonged to my father-in-law. We inherited it after he died. The SPID shows white/hugger orange/white. I would prefer it still be that way, and will eventually paint it that way in my alleged copious free time. It is currently as you see it in my avatar, just white cab upper and posts, the rest all orange. I personally prefer the white/orange/white combination, and "busted his chops" about it when he had it repainted back in the '80s. But it wasn't my truck back then.

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mine is a 69 this was the color it came with and pic off it now
Attachment 1279997

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Attachment 1280000

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Would anyone have any photos of how far into the door pillers the white roofs extended? I'm assuming it runs to the lip for the weatherstrip? I want to do my 72 in blue/white two tone and I plan in doing the white tomorrow (cab only right now) Also, should I ask for any specific shade of white when I'm at the paint store tomorrow?

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Correct you are. Mine was originally Aniversary Gold /Ivory two-tone.

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Here is my SPID.
Attachment 1291351

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The paint does indeed wrap to the weatherstrip flange.
The factory white code 521 has a number of brand crosses.
Here is a link that shows the various brands and their matching color codes.
http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcod...del=ChevyTruck

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Thanks for getting back to the thread and posting a SPID too.