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Jsfucttruck 01-17-2018 12:25 PM

Manual 465 to 90v20 Burb q's
 
So my friend wants to swap manual clutch setup, 465/205 into his 90 3/4 4x4 burb with a 400 and vss. I told him that I would love to help, but I have never done this swap. I have done the hydro swap and it was not too bad.

I am thinking the clutch linkage bracket could be the most pita thing to do. Any tips or pointers?I

kwmech 01-17-2018 01:23 PM

Re: Manual 465 to 90v20 Burb q's
 
Pretty sure the square body still had mechanical linkage in 90. Find a truck with all the goodies under the dash and install.
what's going to happen to the existing transmission and t-case?

68Timber 01-17-2018 02:26 PM

Re: Manual 465 to 90v20 Burb q's
 
I have that bracket. Let me find it and I can get some measurements for you. I don't think it would be hard to make from scratch.

Jsfucttruck 01-17-2018 08:35 PM

Re: Manual 465 to 90v20 Burb q's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwmech (Post 8163263)
Pretty sure the square body still had mechanical linkage in 90. Find a truck with all the goodies under the dash and install.
what's going to happen to the existing transmission and t-case?



I think the first yr for Hydro clutch for 83-84. I used a dually one as a donor for another swap. It was easier without the linkage.

The trans has no reverse. Not sure.

Jsfucttruck 01-17-2018 08:43 PM

Re: Manual 465 to 90v20 Burb q's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68Timber (Post 8163312)
I have that bracket. Let me find it and I can get some measurements for you. I don't think it would be hard to make from scratch.

I appreciate it.




I have
465/205 early style
Pedal Assembly and Z bar linkage from pedal
a 78 k20 frame with a bracket and linkage
Early Flat trans crossmember and t case skid

He is offering up a 74 K20 350/465/205,with a Dana 44/14bff that runs and drives as a payment with current reg.

68Timber 01-18-2018 10:55 AM

Re: Manual 465 to 90v20 Burb q's
 
I misunderstood, I thought you were missing the bracket. When you said it's going to be the worst part of the swap, you meant locating the bracket on the new frame?

v30crewcab 01-18-2018 07:24 PM

Re: Manual 465 to 90v20 Burb q's
 
85 is first year of the hydro clutch.

Jsfucttruck 01-19-2018 01:08 AM

Re: Manual 465 to 90v20 Burb q's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68Timber (Post 8164143)
I misunderstood, I thought you were missing the bracket. When you said it's going to be the worst part of the swap, you meant locating the bracket on the new frame?



I have a bracket. I meant getting the bracket on. Would one have to lift the body off the frame a bit to drill the mounting holes?

Jsfucttruck 03-10-2018 09:55 PM

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Well my bud decided to stick with the manual setup. Potentially down the road, he is considering the Novak hydro retrofit.

He dropped it off a few days ago and since the weather is shot and we are still amassing parts. I most likely won't start for a few more weeks. This will give me the time to get some needed parts ready.

So, what I have.
465/205 10 spline input, twin stick rails, 30 spline front output.
Pedal assembly with z bar and brackets.

What I need to get for the swap
465/205 bolt in floor hump(optional & needs to be cut out)$80
Clutch kit #04-902
Flywheel for the newer crankshaft #lwf201
Starter. #Ns3838
Vss conversion for the 205 output. Behemouth Drivetrain $300


Driveshafts. $800-1000

Now there has been some discussion on weather or not he wants me to just leave the column in park and not wire in a clutch start switch.

He wants to just leave it, but he has little boys... I think I am just going to wire in the pedal switch. I would hate to hear about it later and someone got hurt.

Pretty nice looking truck, I actually had the opportunity to get this burb before my bud got it. It was for sale for $400 with no moving gears. He put a vacuum modulator on it and got forward gears only.

Jsfucttruck 03-10-2018 09:59 PM

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And boom... Just like that. Everything is on hold until I find out if the headers will work with the mechanical linkage.
Dang it.
I think they are thorely tri's.

cal30_sniper 03-18-2018 01:30 PM

Re: Manual 465 to 90v20 Burb q's
 
They would work fine if you ran the factory hydraulic clutch setup for that truck.

Jsfucttruck 03-18-2018 10:28 PM

Re: Manual 465 to 90v20 Burb q's
 
Correct. He doesn't have the cash for it.

I found a whole 88 k5 donor, but he opted out.

He pays my time, so I let him decide. I tried to explain all the benefits. The blazer even had a tilt column and bench seat. It was mechanically sound with a rotten body. Guy was asking $1500. Even passed smog.

Jsfucttruck 03-18-2018 10:30 PM

Re: Manual 465 to 90v20 Burb q's
 
The owner said the headers had holes in them so he had planned to change them out.

Manifolds are on order.


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