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rustycars63 06-16-2017 06:24 PM

removal of generator battery control module
 
2005 5.3 harness trying to remove the Generator battery control module as I do not think it is needed in my 1949 Chevy truck . Any help will be appreciated .

BR3W CITY 06-16-2017 07:56 PM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
Bypass the wiring, have your tuner flash the ECM with a 2004 O/S. You won't lose anything you'd need in your swap, and it deletes all the GBCM functions.

rustycars63 06-17-2017 07:52 AM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
Thanks very much for your input will give this a try .

ls1nova71 06-17-2017 11:28 PM

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You will have to wire it like an '04 also. There aretwo wires that go to the PCM. You may also need an older alternator, the one with the flat plug. When I did my '06 with the round plug, even with it wired and tuned for an '04 it still defaulted to 13.8v.

rustycars63 07-05-2017 07:58 AM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
Thanks , i am side tracked on truck for the moment but will follow your advice , thanks again.

Hart_Rod 07-05-2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 7969950)
You will have to wire it like an '04 also. There aretwo wires that go to the PCM. You may also need an older alternator, the one with the flat plug. When I did my '06 with the round plug, even with it wired and tuned for an '04 it still defaulted to 13.8v.

Mine defaulted to 13.3V (13.8V at the generator output), at least that's what my gauges are showing. I'm thinking about wiring the GBCM back in, as I see a pretty substantial (2V) when data-logging and going WOT and would like for the alternator to put out more voltage when the situation arises.

ls1nova71 07-05-2017 09:59 PM

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I probably would if you have it. Seems to me it's a better way of controlling the alternator, and isn't really that much more wiring. It's a couple of power wires and some grounds, then the rest just go between the GBCM and the PCM so there's nothing really to be done. You will have to splice the serial data wire, but that's about it. Here's a schematic in case you need it. The schematic is two pages, even though it looks like one, so that's why it looks funny. I cant put them all on one page and still be able to read them.

Hart_Rod 07-06-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 7984243)
I probably would if you have it. Seems to me it's a better way of controlling the alternator, and isn't really that much more wiring. It's a couple of power wires and some grounds, then the rest just go between the GBCM and the PCM so there's nothing really to be done. You will have to splice the serial data wire, but that's about it. Here's a schematic in case you need it. The schematic is two pages, even though it looks like one, so that's why it looks funny. I cant put them all on one page and still be able to read them.

Thanks Eric!:metal:

rustycars63 07-06-2017 11:42 AM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
Now I have more to think about , thanks for all the input that has been shared .

rustycars63 07-11-2017 07:50 AM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
Any one actually using gbcm on their trucks and are there any issues ?

Daaaanz67 07-16-2017 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 7984243)
I probably would if you have it. Seems to me it's a better way of controlling the alternator, and isn't really that much more wiring. It's a couple of power wires and some grounds, then the rest just go between the GBCM and the PCM so there's nothing really to be done. You will have to splice the serial data wire, but that's about it. Here's a schematic in case you need it. The schematic is two pages, even though it looks like one, so that's why it looks funny. I cant put them all on one page and still be able to read them.

Doesn't, this require a BCM for the GBCM to work?

rustycars63 07-16-2017 05:53 PM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
That,s what i thought also , need more input , thanks

dayj1 07-16-2017 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Daaaanz67 (Post 7992264)
Doesn't, this require a BCM for the GBCM to work?

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Originally Posted by rustycars63 (Post 7992272)
That,s what i thought also , need more input , thanks

For a Gen III GBCM module, a BCM is not required. Here'e the info about how it works straight from AC Delco: https://acdelcotechconnect.com/pdf/imtn_V12I305.pdf

rustycars63 07-17-2017 07:27 AM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
Thanks, any special wiring or is the information provided in previous posts the way to go ? Thanks for all the input.

rustycars63 05-21-2018 08:08 AM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
Need help I am trying to reinstall gbcm on 2005 5.3 the part number for the plug is a Delphi pa6-gb20-gf10 can not get this number to come up anywhere, also need the part number of the pins that go to plug. Can any help me find them. thanks for your help.

dayj1 05-21-2018 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rustycars63 (Post 8265173)
Need help I am trying to reinstall gbcm on 2005 5.3 the part number for the plug is a Delphi pa6-gb20-gf10 can not get this number to come up anywhere, also need the part number of the pins that go to plug. Can any help me find them. thanks for your help.

Most of the connectors will be in this catalog. Once you have the correct part numbers, many online vendors will carry them. I generally use mouser.com https://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/...%20Catalog.pdf

71cadc10 05-23-2018 12:24 AM

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that string you listed on the connector, is not the part no. It is the recycling code for the plastic...FYI.

The Delphi p/n would be something like 6-8 digits just numbers.
do you have a pic of the connector maybe I could help ?

rustycars63 05-23-2018 07:40 AM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
Thanks , for all the help looks like help desk is giving me 13545282 or new number 13545282 as plug number after sent photos to them. Customer service at Mouser .

ls1nova71 05-23-2018 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rustycars63 (Post 7992272)
That,s what i thought also , need more input , thanks

If you're younger than around 40, you probably wont get this, but I've read this thread several times and every time I see this post, this is what I think of... :lol: https://youtu.be/Pj-qBUWOYfE

rustycars63 05-23-2018 11:19 AM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
I will have to admit that I am a slow mover on my truck will pick up the pace soon .

Wildkarde 05-23-2018 11:51 PM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
Eficonnection.com is a great source of LS connectors and they offer most of them as pigtails.

dayj1 05-23-2018 11:59 PM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
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Originally Posted by rustycars63 (Post 8266652)
Thanks , for all the help looks like help desk is giving me 13545282 or new number 13545282 as plug number after sent photos to them. Customer service at Mouser .

You probably already know this, but, just in case, the part number you have is for just the plastic housing. You still need the terminals for the appropriate wire size that you're using, the seals, and, possibly, crimpers to attach the terminals to your wires if you don't already have them.

Hart_Rod 05-24-2018 07:03 PM

Re: removal of generator battery control module
 
I hooked my GBCM up per the instructions/wiring diagrams. Nothing changed, still defaulting to 13.8 V. Does something have to be updated in the tune? Is there a way to troubleshoot the GBCM? TIA

rustycars63 05-25-2018 08:22 AM

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Did you hook up the Blue wire , engine on signal , some say to store it as its not needed , but, does this control gbcm. The link to the acdelco information is no longer available that i can find. Just thinking out loud.

Hart_Rod 05-25-2018 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rustycars63 (Post 8268130)
Did you hook up the Blue wire , engine on signal , some say to store it as its not needed , but, does this control gbcm. The link to the acdelco information is no longer available that i can find. Just thinking out loud.

No blue wire in the harness that came with my GBCM. I wonder if I have to turn on the "L" terminal in the tune system options?


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