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lolife99 02-12-2009 01:19 PM

Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
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I'm installing 71-72 Spindles on my '69 swb.
I'd like to run the original cross link and inner tie rods,... but know I need to swap to the 71-72 outer tie rods.
Here's my question. Are the 71-72 outer tie rods the same diameter as the 73-87 outers?
This conversion sleeve is offered by Performance On Line. (part# HPAS6370)

http://www.performanceonline.com/sto...cat=787&page=1

Can I use these with my 71-72 outers? Or will 73-87 outers work in a 71-72 spindle?

raggedjim 02-13-2009 10:49 AM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
The adjusting sleeves for a 1971-72 is the same as the sleeve for a 73-87 (the tie rods are different but have the same threads).

The 73 up outers will not fit the 71-72 spindle arm. I think the taper or maybe the thread length is different, can't remember off the top of my head. I used 73 up drop spindles on my truck because they were cheaper for some reason...

I double checked this on Autozones website.

Rg

lolife99 02-13-2009 12:02 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
raggedjim,...THANK YOU very much. That's what I need to know.

raggedjim 02-13-2009 12:24 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Have you bought the adapters yet? If not I can probably save you some money... I know these can be bought at most places for about $49 but this place builds race car stuff and makes those adapters for $14 each.

Just call and talk to Randy. Make sure to tell him the 11/16-18 is RH (right hand) and the 5/8-18 is left hand. The length for these trucks is 5-1/4"

One thing no one tells you is you have to use the 65-70 OUTER as the INNER or you will end up with 2 ends that have RH threads (they won't adjust that way!)

http://www.dcaracing.com/cat_steering.html

Rg

lolife99 02-13-2009 12:49 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Wow,... I'm 22 minutes too late. (my luck)
I already have them coming.

Good info for everyone else though.

68 short step 02-22-2009 12:01 AM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
good info in this thread

rookierodbuilder 02-22-2009 02:31 AM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
I wish I could run across a deal like that just on the huge u bolts I need for my 66 trailing arms

lolife99 03-14-2009 10:00 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Update:
I went to install the adapter sleeves today from POL.
I'm using 71-72 drop spindles on my 69 disc brake swap.
I purchased 71-72 outer tie rods and 69 inner tie rods.
Heres the problem.
71-72 outers are RH thread.
69 inners are ALSO RH thread.
So I guess I have to purchase 69 outers and use them as inner tie rods so the will be LH thread and adjust properly.
I wish POL would have had this info on their website. NOT a big deal,... just a waste of money and a set back on todays progress.

texanidiot25 03-14-2009 10:24 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Quote:

So I guess I have to purchase 69 outers and use them as inner tie rods so the will be LH thread and adjust properly.
Had to do this on mine too, but with 73-87 outters instead. We just thought that someone replaced the tierods backwards at some point in the past 40 years :lol:

lolife99 03-14-2009 10:44 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
73-87 outers are the same thread size as 71-72 outers.
I checked my old tie rod ends to confirm that I needed to do this.

fatboys69 03-15-2009 04:08 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Didn't think the 69 rod end diameters were different than the 71-72 ?? I know the taper is different, are the threads also ?? I used McGoheys 71-72 drop spindles.Just wondering ! THANKS IN ADVANCE

lolife99 03-15-2009 05:53 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
I believe the 69 is 5/8" diameter and the 71-72 is 11/16" diameter. I'm also using 71-72 McGaughy's drop spindles on my 69.

Mine is also a non-power steering, 6-cylinder truck.

fatboys69 03-15-2009 06:17 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
so is each end tapped accordingly ( 5/8 1 end and 11/16 on the other ??)

lolife99 03-15-2009 06:26 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
YES.
The 11/16" end is RH thread,... and the 5/8" end is LH thread.

They also sell "stock replacement" sleeves, if you just want the "looks" of these sleeves.

fatboys69 03-16-2009 05:09 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Thanks for the info !!!! Been wanting to do something other than stock looking. I'll have to give them a try.

68C10HotRod 03-17-2009 12:29 AM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Glad I caught this post as I'm swapping '93 LD 3/4T spindles onto my '68 C10. Started checking all ends for both years & discovered the '68 has one LH & one RH thread outer in the 5/8". The '93 donor has 11/16" RH on both.

Looks like I'll be swapping Inner & Outer on one side before I can complete this deal.

Raggedjim,
Thanks for the info on the cheaper sleeves. Hope I can get them sent out tomorrow to wrap this up & start driving her soon.

raggedjim 03-17-2009 10:45 AM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68C10HotRod (Post 3202192)
Glad I caught this post as I'm swapping '93 LD 3/4T spindles onto my '68 C10. Started checking all ends for both years & discovered the '68 has one LH & one RH thread outer in the 5/8". The '93 donor has 11/16" RH on both.

Looks like I'll be swapping Inner & Outer on one side before I can complete this deal.

Raggedjim,
Thanks for the info on the cheaper sleeves. Hope I can get them sent out tomorrow to wrap this up & start driving her soon.

No problem, make sure you get the right threads, I wrote what I wrote from memory, but I know they can make them however you want them...

Rg

Tim R 03-17-2009 12:48 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
I just put 73 spindles on mine Another difference is that the 73 outer tie rod is longer . I had to shorten the outer 3/4 of an inch to be able to get the tie rods to shorten up enough to get the toe back into alignment Tim

ulakovic22 03-17-2009 02:26 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
This is too funny, I couldn't find this thread when I did this so I ended up making another thread in the Suspension forum.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=332740

jmlcolorado 04-06-2011 10:34 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raggedjim (Post 3142080)
Have you bought the adapters yet? If not I can probably save you some money... I know these can be bought at most places for about $49 but this place builds race car stuff and makes those adapters for $14 each.

Just call and talk to Randy. Make sure to tell him the 11/16-18 is RH (right hand) and the 5/8-18 is left hand. The length for these trucks is 5-1/4"

One thing no one tells you is you have to use the 65-70 OUTER as the INNER or you will end up with 2 ends that have RH threads (they won't adjust that way!)

http://www.dcaracing.com/cat_steering.html

Rg

YOU just saved me a bit of dough! THANKS!!

z10kl 10-12-2011 07:33 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Is the place that makes the sleeves still in business. The link doesn't work for me.

lolife99 10-12-2011 07:42 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Www.performanceonline.com
Posted via Mobile Device

z10kl 10-12-2011 07:53 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
I found them.
http://dcaracefab.com/dca-cart/

SouthpawGarage 12-29-2014 11:36 PM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by z10kl (Post 4949970)

I realize this thread is really old, but I just wanted to note that they are still open and still making sleeves. They've gone up to $19 each. Total cost for both, shipped to Florida, was $50. Not the bargain it once was, but they appear to be a good quality part. I bought these rather than the anodized aluminum ones CPP sells, because these are steel.

dirtyjim 12-30-2014 09:27 AM

Re: Conversion tie rod sleeve for DISC brakes on a 67-70,...
 
I think you can use late astro van inner tie rods with the 73+ outer and adjuster and use all off the shelf parts. I haven't verified it but it should work


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