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ebfabman · 01-23-2003, 07:48 PM

information about how I do my repairs and welding technique. Please forgive me for not being able to keep up with everyones request. I've been overwhelmed with emails, PM's, and replies to the posts, and for that I am very, very grateful. However I just can't keep up with them all and I want to be fair to each one of you.

After careful concideration, I've decided the best way to give the best information on how I do it is to "show and tell" so I will be making some videos covering the most common repairs that these trucks need, floor pans, cab support, inner kick/foot well, inner-outer rockers, lower "A" and "B" pillar-door jams, cab corner, bedside wheel opening,etc.

I know, Iknow, it may seem that I'm trying to cash in but I can asure you its not the case. Whatever the cost you can be sure the videos will show every step, tip, material, tools, equipment,and technique I use to get the results you have seen on this board and can be applied to most restorative situation related to old cars and trucks where rust or panel replacement is involved.

There is no black magic to working metal, however there is somewhat of a learning curve and if I had been able to view an intructional video when I first became interested in working metal it would have shortened that learning curve dramatically making working on old vehicles even more enjoyable.

For those who would be interested in such videos and would be willing to pay a fair price for them, again, I will give you information, some of which has taken years to acquire. You won't be disappointed. I will not do this as a mere profit making venture, the videos will be priced to cover my cost only.

Does this sound like a good plan? If so which one should be done first? Any ideas or input from you guys/ gals would be appreciated.

Thanks.......eb

chevy_fatman · 01-23-2003, 07:49 PM

put me down in your list for this video. I think that a good how to in fixing rockers, cab corners and all about a cab would be great, let us know when you decide to start making the videos, I'll pay your price, It should help me a lot, keep the good work Earl. Thank you

cheyenne10 · 01-23-2003, 07:59 PM

Rockers, cab corners, dent pulling, door rustout in rear corners, cab floors, cab mounts, suburban type quarter-panel patching.

Stuff like that in that type of order. I guess you could use a pre-order poll type thing to justify which ones 1st, 2nd, etc.

Set yourself up to take Paypal might be good too (instant purchases!!)

You made my day, I couldn't learn enough about this type of thing. I also hope you discuss tools needed and recommended.

You da man

brad2 · 01-23-2003, 08:07 PM

Sounds like an excellent idea. You should however make some profit. I don't mind paying for something that is going to save me time and money. Count me in also.

ckhd · 01-23-2003, 08:11 PM

Me too!

I have always been AMAZED when you've posted repair pics. I'm a firm believer in learning from someone who can actually do what they are teaching, and from what I've seen, I can't wait for the video.

Why not start with the most common rusted areas of '67-'72 pickups? Things like rocker panels, cab corners, floorboards, etc. I think just about everyone on the board has a rusty rocker panel, and probably a rusty cab corner.

Maybe after a video or two on that, I'd love to see dent pulling techniques.

BLAZERMAN · 01-23-2003, 08:29 PM

You can sign me up.

lux hauler · 01-23-2003, 08:33 PM

I'll take a set.
I'd love to learn the "correct way" to work metal.
I know there probably isn't much demand for it anymore but how about a short piece on working lead?

*Piston* · 01-23-2003, 08:34 PM

I'm in!!! Learning how "you" work a rust repair so easily would be a great asset!

Showme-K-20 · 01-23-2003, 08:41 PM

Put me on the list.

Bob

>X< · 01-23-2003, 08:44 PM

this is great!! put me on the list for the whole set!

mikej71 · 01-23-2003, 08:54 PM

Sign me up, too! I think they would be invaluable to every novice bodyman on here, and I think you deserve to make a killing on them.

I'd like to see rockers and cab corners first. Maybe some Bondo smoothing tips (that's plastic body filler, since I know you're not familiar with it

).

Mike

70 Jimmy · 01-23-2003, 08:56 PM

Dude! Make a profit. Your experience and hard work are worth something. I hate it when people act like making a profit is morally wrong. Now, gouging people is wrong but a profit is not. You'll be doing yourself wrong if you don't at least make some money. By the way, I'd be interested too.

**Tim Christian** · 01-23-2003, 09:11 PM

Mr. Earl, I would like one also!

meathead95 · 01-23-2003, 09:15 PM

me too

RACING29 · 01-23-2003, 09:21 PM

I'll take one!!!

JJR · 01-23-2003, 09:51 PM

A video series would be great. The next step would be to host a weekend workshop (for a fee, like Ron Kovell) where we could see first hand repairs/techniques and be able to ask questions and maybe bring some panels in need of repair. I would be willing to make the trip.

still w.i.p '68 · 01-23-2003, 09:53 PM

Count me in, and did you set a price for fuel tank nozzle filler plugs?..

junkyardjohn · 01-23-2003, 10:29 PM

COUNT ME IN FOR A SET. & THE OTHERS ARE RIGHT, THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH MAKING A PROFIT BY SELLING SOMETHING (KNOWLEDGE IN THIS CASE) THAT HAS TAKEN YOU YEARS OF HARD WORK TO PERFECT. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE EVEN COME CLOSE TO DOING THE KIND OF WORK YOU DO.

James67 · 01-23-2003, 10:47 PM

At work I weld 1/2 to 1" thick steel, so I'm having trouble with sheet metal. I would love to have a video showing how to work sheet metal, count me in!

**1971Stepside** · 01-23-2003, 10:54 PM

Can I be your agent? LOL

I would love to have a video! Cab stuff would be the best for me. I need floor pans, rockers, corners, gas tank filler, and of course the bad spot above the windshield.

Of course these will be available next week right?

j/k

humbulay · 01-23-2003, 11:08 PM

from the previous 2 million posts I would say you carry a lot of respect on here!!!!!!!!!!!!! so...I'm a prospective buyer as well!
let me know when they're ready............Kurt

RainDog · 01-23-2003, 11:24 PM

I think almost everyone on the board is going to want the whole set, ebfabman! You can definitely put my name down.

RainDog

weasel29gm · 01-23-2003, 11:32 PM

Yea Eb, thats a great idea and don't worry about the money. There is nothing wrong about a profit your know- how is worth it!!

imdarren · 01-23-2003, 11:51 PM

I'm with the others! I'll buy em'!!
I also think you should make a fair profit.
Your experience is worth it. If you have enough intrest, you could justify the price of a DVD recorder (they are way down in price I'm told) and that would possibly be cheaper / easier to produce VS tape. Shipping may be cheaper as well. Just an idea.

I also would like the topics to be covered in the order of the areas that are most often in need of repair ie: rockers 1st next cab corners, and then whatever your experience tells you needs to be next.
I'm just grateful you are even considering this!

Darren

Snowbound · 01-24-2003, 12:03 AM

Count me in. I've been thinking of taking some night courses at the college on bodywork, so this is right up my alley. Maybe to save production costs you could get the videos burnt onto a DVD or CDR instead of VHS. Or just charge a fee to upload it off a web site, as Norton or other companies do. This would save on packaging, shipping etc. I can't wait!

Brian

01-23-2003, 07:48 PM	#1
ebfabman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 2,489	To all who wanted........... information about how I do my repairs and welding technique. Please forgive me for not being able to keep up with everyones request. I've been overwhelmed with emails, PM's, and replies to the posts, and for that I am very, very grateful. However I just can't keep up with them all and I want to be fair to each one of you. After careful concideration, I've decided the best way to give the best information on how I do it is to "show and tell" so I will be making some videos covering the most common repairs that these trucks need, floor pans, cab support, inner kick/foot well, inner-outer rockers, lower "A" and "B" pillar-door jams, cab corner, bedside wheel opening,etc. I know, Iknow, it may seem that I'm trying to cash in but I can asure you its not the case. Whatever the cost you can be sure the videos will show every step, tip, material, tools, equipment,and technique I use to get the results you have seen on this board and can be applied to most restorative situation related to old cars and trucks where rust or panel replacement is involved. There is no black magic to working metal, however there is somewhat of a learning curve and if I had been able to view an intructional video when I first became interested in working metal it would have shortened that learning curve dramatically making working on old vehicles even more enjoyable. For those who would be interested in such videos and would be willing to pay a fair price for them, again, I will give you information, some of which has taken years to acquire. You won't be disappointed. I will not do this as a mere profit making venture, the videos will be priced to cover my cost only. Does this sound like a good plan? If so which one should be done first? Any ideas or input from you guys/ gals would be appreciated. Thanks.......eb

01-23-2003, 07:49 PM	#2
chevy_fatman Where's my beer? Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in the state of denial.... Posts: 5,621	put me down in your list for this video. I think that a good how to in fixing rockers, cab corners and all about a cab would be great, let us know when you decide to start making the videos, I'll pay your price, It should help me a lot, keep the good work Earl. Thank you __________________ Paul How do you make the invisible, visible?.........You take it away. Last edited by chevy_fatman; 01-23-2003 at 07:52 PM.

01-23-2003, 07:59 PM	#3
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,511	sign me up Rockers, cab corners, dent pulling, door rustout in rear corners, cab floors, cab mounts, suburban type quarter-panel patching. Stuff like that in that type of order. I guess you could use a pre-order poll type thing to justify which ones 1st, 2nd, etc. Set yourself up to take Paypal might be good too (instant purchases!!) You made my day, I couldn't learn enough about this type of thing. I also hope you discuss tools needed and recommended. You da man __________________ Bob

01-23-2003, 08:11 PM	#5
ckhd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: St. Johns, Arizona Posts: 2,660	Me too! I have always been AMAZED when you've posted repair pics. I'm a firm believer in learning from someone who can actually do what they are teaching, and from what I've seen, I can't wait for the video. Why not start with the most common rusted areas of '67-'72 pickups? Things like rocker panels, cab corners, floorboards, etc. I think just about everyone on the board has a rusty rocker panel, and probably a rusty cab corner. Maybe after a video or two on that, I'd love to see dent pulling techniques. __________________ my 2¢ - t.i.o.l.i. Bowen 1968 K20 fleet 1969 K10 swb fleet 1972 K10 Suburban 1972 C10 lwb step 1992 K1500 'burb 1995 K2500 'burb 1997 C1500 'burb 1999 K1500 2000 K1500 'burb Why do I own so many Suburbans? Last edited by ckhd; 01-23-2003 at 08:14 PM.

01-23-2003, 08:33 PM	#7
lux hauler Psycho-billy Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: about 40 miles west of Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,591	I'll take a set. I'd love to learn the "correct way" to work metal. I know there probably isn't much demand for it anymore but how about a short piece on working lead? __________________ '72 C-10 350 w/Lunati Voodoo cam (207/213, .437/.454), Performer intake, 625 Road Demon Jr. and Hooker headers. Support your community, support yourself. Buy local, buy American (or Canadian).

01-23-2003, 08:07 PM	#4
brad2 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: edmond, ok Posts: 1,058	Sounds like an excellent idea. You should however make some profit. I don't mind paying for something that is going to save me time and money. Count me in also.

01-23-2003, 08:29 PM	#6
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,826	You can sign me up.

01-23-2003, 08:34 PM	#8
Piston Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 2,301	I'm in!!! Learning how "you" work a rust repair so easily would be a great asset!

01-23-2003, 08:41 PM	#9
Showme-K-20 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Southwest Missouri Posts: 153	Put me on the list. Bob

01-23-2003, 08:44 PM	#10
>X< registered IWATA user Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 4,483	this is great!! put me on the list for the whole set! __________________ -'63 Ford Fairlane 500 coupe, v8, auto, faded and rusty. awaiting built roller 302 and some flat black -'99 Honda Prelude. vtech/5spd. no pipe, no intake, bone stock. awaiting new top end. -01 GMC Yukon SLT 5.3 dented and scratched with a noisy tranny. Take off that Von Dutch hat before i stab you with a 000 Mack.

01-23-2003, 08:54 PM	#11
mikej71 Unregistered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX USA Posts: 538	Sign me up, too! I think they would be invaluable to every novice bodyman on here, and I think you deserve to make a killing on them. I'd like to see rockers and cab corners first. Maybe some Bondo smoothing tips (that's plastic body filler, since I know you're not familiar with it ). Mike __________________ 71 SWB Stepside SB400/TH350

01-23-2003, 08:56 PM	#12
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	Dude! Make a profit. Your experience and hard work are worth something. I hate it when people act like making a profit is morally wrong. Now, gouging people is wrong but a profit is not. You'll be doing yourself wrong if you don't at least make some money. By the way, I'd be interested too. __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"

01-23-2003, 09:11 PM	#13
Tim Christian Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: TN/VA Posts: 6,388	Mr. Earl, I would like one also!

01-23-2003, 09:15 PM	#14
meathead95 computer illiterate Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 6,446	me too __________________ 72 2wd blazer 72 swb 4x4

01-23-2003, 09:21 PM	#15
RACING29 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tennessee, Morristown Posts: 355	I'll take one!!! __________________ 1967 Chevy truck, R1 racing seats, 4 point racing harness, 4/6 drop, primered blue, soon to be shaved, 350- 060. over, flat top pistons, Eagle rods, Edelbrock Aluminum heads, 1.5 Scorpion roller rockers, Lunati 515" cam, mallory ignition, Holley 750 double pumper carb, Built 350 turbo trans, 2500-2800 boss hog stall, 20 gallon aluminum fuel cell!!!



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01-23-2003, 09:51 PM	#16
JJR Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 746	A video series would be great. The next step would be to host a weekend workshop (for a fee, like Ron Kovell) where we could see first hand repairs/techniques and be able to ask questions and maybe bring some panels in need of repair. I would be willing to make the trip. __________________ FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Second Owner 70 C-10 Second Owner 93 GMC C1500 Third Owner 99 C2500 Crew Cab Short Bed

01-23-2003, 09:53 PM	#17
still w.i.p '68 Dreams are free Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hogansville Texas Posts: 546	Count me in, and did you set a price for fuel tank nozzle filler plugs?.. __________________ '68 swb fleetside originally w.i.p '68 member since 1-01 w.i.p = ( work in progress )

01-23-2003, 10:29 PM	#18
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	COUNT ME IN FOR A SET. & THE OTHERS ARE RIGHT, THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH MAKING A PROFIT BY SELLING SOMETHING (KNOWLEDGE IN THIS CASE) THAT HAS TAKEN YOU YEARS OF HARD WORK TO PERFECT. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE EVEN COME CLOSE TO DOING THE KIND OF WORK YOU DO. __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

01-23-2003, 10:47 PM	#19
James67 New Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Powder Springs, Ga. Posts: 13	At work I weld 1/2 to 1" thick steel, so I'm having trouble with sheet metal. I would love to have a video showing how to work sheet metal, count me in!

01-23-2003, 10:54 PM	#20
1971Stepside Almost Satisfied Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,932	Can I be your agent? LOL I would love to have a video! Cab stuff would be the best for me. I need floor pans, rockers, corners, gas tank filler, and of course the bad spot above the windshield. Of course these will be available next week right? j/k __________________ 1971 C10 Stepside. LSx 6.0 with BTR Stage IV, Speed Engineering Headers, 4L80e transmission w/3200 Circle-D Stall. 3.73. Posi. Purchased this truck when I was 17. I started the rebuild (or take apart) in 1993. I have drug it around all over the country in pieces. Finally back on the road in 2021. "I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far."

01-23-2003, 11:08 PM	#21
humbulay 1971 C10 LWB under const. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Evansville,IN Posts: 91	from the previous 2 million posts I would say you carry a lot of respect on here!!!!!!!!!!!!! so...I'm a prospective buyer as well! let me know when they're ready............Kurt __________________ I see getting married as a can't lose situation........... either gonna live happily ever after or get my 1st wife outta the way

01-23-2003, 11:24 PM	#22
RainDog Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burien, WA, USA Posts: 391	I think almost everyone on the board is going to want the whole set, ebfabman! You can definitely put my name down. RainDog __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

01-23-2003, 11:32 PM	#23
weasel29gm SLOW BUT SURE,BUT CLOSER Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: eleanor wv usa Posts: 3,091	Yea Eb, thats a great idea and don't worry about the money. There is nothing wrong about a profit your know- how is worth it!! __________________ 69 C-10, OWNED 35YRS... 350 over 30, 350 Turbo, 3:73 Posi P/S, P/B Black with red and black int. ''LOVE THESE OLD ''TRUCKS.......

01-23-2003, 11:51 PM	#24
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	I'm with the others! I'll buy em'!! I also think you should make a fair profit. Your experience is worth it. If you have enough intrest, you could justify the price of a DVD recorder (they are way down in price I'm told) and that would possibly be cheaper / easier to produce VS tape. Shipping may be cheaper as well. Just an idea. I also would like the topics to be covered in the order of the areas that are most often in need of repair ie: rockers 1st next cab corners, and then whatever your experience tells you needs to be next. I'm just grateful you are even considering this! Darren __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

01-24-2003, 12:03 AM	#25
Snowbound Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Westbank, BC Posts: 401	Count me in. I've been thinking of taking some night courses at the college on bodywork, so this is right up my alley. Maybe to save production costs you could get the videos burnt onto a DVD or CDR instead of VHS. Or just charge a fee to upload it off a web site, as Norton or other companies do. This would save on packaging, shipping etc. I can't wait! Brian __________________ 1965 Chevy Short Box Stepside, 230 - 3 speed, 4:11 gears, original paint rust free survivor. Now sporting a 383 SBC and TKO-600

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