The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-15-2009, 12:52 PM   #1
Bam Bam 56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Little Chute, WI
Posts: 122
67-72 Factory Assembly manual

I have one and i think they manual is awesome. One very big problem, it doesn't have a table of contents or index. And with this being such a detailed book it makes it very hard to use. Does any one know where i could get a table of contents or an index to it?
__________________
Chris "Bam Bam" Shields
Little Chute, WI

1970 Chevy Longhorn C20 in progress
2007 Chevy Vortech MAX - every day beast

Project Longhorn
Bam Bam 56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2009, 12:53 PM   #2
redbaron69
Registered User
 
redbaron69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: marion nc
Posts: 592
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

an index would be great
__________________
69 short fleet 350/350 "under construction"
70 short step 307/3 speed
redbaron69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2009, 01:26 PM   #3
puppy
Registered User
 
puppy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rives, TN
Posts: 359
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

It takes me longer to look it up in the FAM than to just figure it out!!!
__________________
'11 Z71
'88 V-30 Crew Cab
'87 V-10
'69 Camaro SS
'52 M38
'46 Rat Rod
Word of the wise should be sufficient!
puppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2009, 02:26 PM   #4
dfwright
Senior Member
 
dfwright's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 751
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

I don't even see how you could do an index. Most of the pages have the detail information at the bottom of the page whited out, including the page number, page title and assembly number information.

I am sure there must have been some reason for doing this, but it does make it very hard to find what you are looking for. I love the book also, but many times you just have to flip thru the pages looking at the pictures until you find what you are looking for.

Great resource, but not efficient. I use it in the "when all else fails, read the manual" methodology.
__________________
1972 C10 LWB, 350/350
At least it was once, and hopefully will be again. It's a pile of parts right now.
dfwright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2009, 04:38 PM   #5
ChevLoRay
Old Skool Club
 
ChevLoRay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas"
Posts: 10,880
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

Best suggestion I have is to use some of the 3M Post-It tabs. They come in colors and you can write on them w/o any problems. They attach easily and can be removed if you don't want to have that tab on a specific page, anymore.

I know it ain't an index, but it's a help to know where something is when you pick up the book. Best I can tell, the pages have been placed in order in accordance with the time they were originally published. For me, the 1969 data starts with the Blazer pages, which detailed what was new and what changed. Having the ability to visualize your truck as you look at the pages, will be of benefit.
__________________
Member Nr. 2770

'96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed.

'69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - under reconstruction.

The older I get, the better I was.
ChevLoRay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2009, 07:10 PM   #6
redbaron69
Registered User
 
redbaron69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: marion nc
Posts: 592
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

do any of you have the chassis service manual? ive been thinking of picking one up. havent heard anybody say much about it.
__________________
69 short fleet 350/350 "under construction"
70 short step 307/3 speed
redbaron69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2009, 07:25 PM   #7
tcb-1
Nothing to see here.....
 
tcb-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Shawnee, KS
Posts: 4,633
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

I've tried to catagorize mine with post its, but it's still a pain......
__________________
Doug

THANK YOU to our American Soldiers & Veterans - POW MIA "You will NEVER be forgotten".

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
tcb-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2009, 08:58 PM   #8
Shyguy
Junior Member
 
Shyguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Southeast Missouri
Posts: 2,434
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

I bought the "Red Book" quite a few months ago and find it difficult at best to use.

It as a lot of valuable info, but it sure takes time to find what you need.

I use it as a last resort or light reading before I go to sleep.

Danny
__________________
'67 Chevy C-20 short stepper - build complete, 454/SM-465.
'75 C-30 Single Cab DRW-350 small block/NP-435.
'77 GMC-6500 Dump Truck, 427 Tall Deck.
'92 GMC K-3500 Duallie, 454/4L80E.
Shyguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2009, 11:40 PM   #9
Ackattack
Senior Member
 
Ackattack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Valley Center KS
Posts: 3,481
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

I just got my assembly manual tonight, and the first thing I noticed was there was no index.

I'm going to start an excel spreadsheet of what is on each page. I figure I'll just start numbering the front of the book from 1 to whatever.

Hopefully I can post an spreadsheet on here so we can all use it (and maybe someone can help add to it)
Ackattack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 01:28 AM   #10
72armyswbtruck
Registered User
 
72armyswbtruck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 4,041
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

We will be waiting.
__________________
"Remember, They can Kill You, but they can't eat You, That's against the law!!!!!!!!!"
72armyswbtruck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 05:25 AM   #11
'68OrangeSunshine
Senior Member
 
'68OrangeSunshine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Tucson, AZ USA
Posts: 2,553
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

"Factory Assembly Manual" is really a fiction aimed at the post-vintage aftermarket restoration crowd -- US --you guys and me.
Yes it is sort of an assembly manual, but really the book is a compilation of GM's notes to dealer service centers on Retail Purchase Options [RPO]installation. Probably they were faxed out from Detroit, back in the day. [Maybe mailed out to Mayberry.] The randomness is testimony to the fact that there was never any intent by the original document producer, the Manufacturer, for there to be any such compilation. Also original copies of RPO guidelines had OEM part numbers in 7 digit format. The empty spaces in the " Factory Assembly Manual" loom out like empty caption balloons in an Orphan Annie comic. At any rate there are no part numbers listed in the Red book now.
Maybe there were copyright issues? I'd bet some critical notes on installations were also didacted. Could be a lot of these dealer shop guys were trained in Michigan, and all spoke in a code that is lost to us non-employee enthusiasts. I wonder if you heat some of the pages with a candle, some of the lemon juice instructions come into view, however briefly. JK.
The Chevrolet Truck Chassis and Service Manual and the ... Overhaul manual are both genuine documents, and worth owning by the serious owner operator.
__________________


Every 25 years I like to rebuild that 292, whether it needs it or not.

Last edited by '68OrangeSunshine; 06-16-2009 at 05:29 AM.
'68OrangeSunshine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 06:08 AM   #12
eightbanger
454 MAKES IT ROAR
 
eightbanger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Essex, U.K
Posts: 2,602
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

I use it like this.......Assembly Manual, Assembly Manual, reveal onto me, the page number and part number that I must Seeeeee!!!

I'm thinking there may be another verse, as it's still not working.
__________________
Nigel.

An American living in a British body.

1971 Chevy Cheyenne 10 454

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell


"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty" - Thomas Jefferson

No more pain.
03.12.60 -- 12.28.10

http://www.youtube.com/Eightbanger
eightbanger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 08:02 AM   #13
dfwright
Senior Member
 
dfwright's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 751
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ackattack View Post
I just got my assembly manual tonight, and the first thing I noticed was there was no index.

I'm going to start an excel spreadsheet of what is on each page. I figure I'll just start numbering the front of the book from 1 to whatever.

Hopefully I can post an spreadsheet on here so we can all use it (and maybe someone can help add to it)
Sign me up for a copy!!!
__________________
1972 C10 LWB, 350/350
At least it was once, and hopefully will be again. It's a pile of parts right now.
dfwright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 08:09 AM   #14
Ackattack
Senior Member
 
Ackattack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Valley Center KS
Posts: 3,481
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

I started numbering the pages....up to page 200.....just numbering the darn thing will take awhile
Ackattack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 08:41 AM   #15
UltraBlue71
Registered User
 
UltraBlue71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: OKC OK
Posts: 489
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

Mine came with a magik 8 ball, it knows all and tells all! Agreed, there is no rhyme or reason to the way that manual is set up, jumps around year to year, its a helpful product, but I still like the exploded views in the LMC catalog and the wording in the good ole Chiltons, between the 3, this dumb ole counrty boy had a 71 tore to 3000 pieces and got it all back together, (well kinda)
__________________
"You can put lipstick on a pig, sure it's pretty pig, but it's still just a PIG...

71 LWB
UltraBlue71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 09:22 AM   #16
425HP409
425hp409
 
425HP409's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Frisco Texas
Posts: 627
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

I hand numbered all of the pages. I then made a sheet with all of the Service Manual categories on it, then made an ilist under each category of each page with what was on that page.
An example: (made up page numbers used here for example)
Air Conditioning p.37-48, 119-154
Brakes - p.79-84, 164-170, etc.
This helped me alot
425HP409 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 09:28 AM   #17
Ackattack
Senior Member
 
Ackattack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Valley Center KS
Posts: 3,481
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

Quote:
Originally Posted by 425HP409 View Post
I hand numbered all of the pages. I then made a sheet with all of the Service Manual categories on it, then made an ilist under each category of each page with what was on that page.
An example: (made up page numbers used here for example)
Air Conditioning p.37-48, 119-154
Brakes - p.79-84, 164-170, etc.
This helped me alot
Is this an electronic sheet? If so can you send it to me. I can use it for my spreadsheet so everyone can use it.

Heck, if it's just a piece of paper, if you can scan and send it to me that would help.
Ackattack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 01:54 PM   #18
gcburdic
Restoration Virgin!
 
gcburdic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cornelius, NC
Posts: 8,192
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

subscribed!!!....thanks in advance Ackattack!!!
__________________
Geoff with a G
1968 Chevy C10 SWB The Mistress FOR SALE
1972 Custom Deluxe C20 Suburban
Current Resto: 1966 Mustang-Mama's High School Graduation Present
gcburdic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 02:57 PM   #19
glock35ipsc
Next project: 1970 K10
 
glock35ipsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524
Posts: 6,676
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChevLoRay View Post
Best suggestion I have is to use some of the 3M Post-It tabs. They come in colors and you can write on them w/o any problems. They attach easily and can be removed if you don't want to have that tab on a specific page, anymore.
This is exactly what I have done.
__________________
Bob

1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 next project!!
1969 Chevy C20 LWB 396/TH400 - My son's Project "Uncle John" Thread
1951 Ford F1 Future project

LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here!
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET!
CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE
glock35ipsc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 04:35 PM   #20
425HP409
425hp409
 
425HP409's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Frisco Texas
Posts: 627
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

Ackattack,
I will scan and send them to you when I can get to it, possibly in a few days.

Last edited by 425HP409; 06-16-2009 at 04:37 PM. Reason: missed the recipient
425HP409 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 05:06 PM   #21
haysonj
Senior Member
 
haysonj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Santa Maria, Ca.
Posts: 1,219
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

Quote:
Originally Posted by redbaron69 View Post
do any of you have the chassis service manual? ive been thinking of picking one up. havent heard anybody say much about it.
I've got the one for 1969 and it has good info in it.
__________________
69 Chevy 4x4 383 Power
haysonj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 06:04 PM   #22
mr48chev
Registered User
 
mr48chev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toppenish, WA
Posts: 6,178
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

Quote:
Originally Posted by redbaron69 View Post
do any of you have the chassis service manual? ive been thinking of picking one up. havent heard anybody say much about it.
this is for my 71 GMC but it is what I dig a lot of information out of.


Factory service manual that was used in a Dealer shop. This one is complete with handwritten notes by the mechanic who used it when the trucks were new.
I try to buy the factory manual for every rig I own as I find they have the detailed info that we need to work on the vehicles and do the work right the first time.
mr48chev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 11:40 PM   #23
Rippin-J
OurLadyofBlessedAccelerat ion
 
Rippin-J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 149
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

Quote:
Originally Posted by eightbanger View Post
I use it like this.......Assembly Manual, Assembly Manual, reveal onto me, the page number and part number that I must Seeeeee!!!

I'm thinking there may be another verse, as it's still not working.
me too. it worked for me tonight!
__________________
_______________________________________________

1968 Chevy C-20 w/ 396
1997 HD Sportster 1200 street tracker
1994 Chevy 1500 Silverado

Rippin-J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2009, 04:55 PM   #24
UltraBlue71
Registered User
 
UltraBlue71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: OKC OK
Posts: 489
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rippin-J View Post
me too. it worked for me tonight!
You didnt get the Magik 8-ball with yours did ya?
__________________
"You can put lipstick on a pig, sure it's pretty pig, but it's still just a PIG...

71 LWB
UltraBlue71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2009, 06:12 PM   #25
stope4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 432
Re: 67-72 Factory Assembly manual

I don't like the Factory Assembly Manual. Way too much missing and the book is just too big. I feel like I totally wasted money on the dang thing. And that was just to purchase it. When you add in the time spent thumbing through the pages without really getting an answer, it just adds up.

I saw a guy on Ebay a few months ago who was trying to sell what he said was the FAM for each year. The sales add said he was the guy who put the current FAM together from the pages he was selling. The add also said there were many many more pages but, when he put the FAM together, he only selected what he thought were the most essntial pages. What he was selling was not book format. It was just pages. It looked real interesting until I saw his BuyItNow price, $18,000. If someone were willing to make 6 books for each year and provide all the pages, they could probably make a few bucks, but not at a starting price of $18,000. I guess the guy plans on dying with the information. Probably be like an Egyptian and have it put in his pyramid.

Last edited by stope4; 06-17-2009 at 06:15 PM.
stope4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1997-2013 67-72chevytrucks.com