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Old 06-04-2010, 07:44 AM   #1
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Dually Wheels

Need help deciding what wheels work on my 73-87 dually. The stock 16's were fine 25yrs ago. Now there are so many options out there.
Can I get dually wheels from any chevy/gmc truck? 88-present
What's the best tire size for direct bolt on 19's or 19.5
Please explain meaning of 22.5 Or 24in semi wheel is milled down.

Will any semi or bread truck rims work on our trucks?
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:38 AM   #2
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Cool thread Mike! Im in
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Need help deciding what wheels work on my 73-87 dually. The stock 16's were fine 25yrs ago. Now there are so many options out there.
Can I get dually wheels from any chevy/gmc truck? 88-present
What's the best tire size for direct bolt on 19's or 19.5
Please explain meaning of 22.5 Or 24in semi wheel is milled down.

Will any semi or bread truck rims work on our trucks?
i like the red dually wheels
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:55 AM   #4
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Here's my favorite semi!
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:00 AM   #5
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I like that one too, i changed a trans on one a few weeks ago and wish i got a picture of it, he had it all decked out.
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:06 AM   #6
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Coool! Scott do you know much about dually wheel fitments.

I've talked to the owner of tennessee wheel & tire briefly about his companies products. but $4k for wheels and tires is more then what I paid for my square body, so I'm looking for alternatives.
Here are some from American Force.
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:11 AM   #7
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Please explain meaning of 22.5 Or 24in semi wheel is milled down.
Big wheels on duallies started with milled 19.5s back in the late '90s. 19.5, 22.5 adn 24.5 tires can only be had in fairly large sizes meant for the big trucks. Those huge sizes just wouldn't work or look right on a slammed dually. Some guys in the late '90s had the idea to mill 1/4" off of the bead of the wheel to end up with a 19" wheel. (1/4" removed from the entire circumference of the wheel reduces the diameter by 1/2") Now, with the 19" wheel, low profile 19" tires could be fitted to work on the slammed duallies. The natural progression from there was to move on to doing the same thing with 22.5 and 24.5" wheels.
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Not quite sure but all i know is you need the adapters to make them work, they sell them in salvage yards around here pretty cheap but they need shined up and stuff but at least its something to work with.
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I've talked to the owner of tennessee wheel & tire briefly about his companies products. but $4k for wheels and tires is more then what I paid for my square body, so I'm looking for alternatives.
If I were to ever buy some semi wheels for my dually, the Tow Nasty wheels from Tennessee Wheel & Tire would be the ones I would want. That's a big wad of cash there, but when I figure I spent $3,000 on the 19/20 wheel and tire combo on my '91 back in '02, $4,000 for some 22" semis and tires isn't all that bad. The big deal to me is that their Tow Nasty wheels will tuck on the rear with stock 16" inners without having to narrow the rear end or widen the fenders. I like the idea of this for the fact that if you ever went back to stocks all around, it wouldn't look retarded with them being sucked in due to the widened fenders or narrowed rear you put on to tuck those other semi wheels.

You might be able to find some other 22" semis for cheaper, but when you figure the money you'll spend on paint & body to widen the fenders or the money you'd spend to narrow the rear end, I'm not sure that you'd come out on top.

Now, if you have no plans of going that low and don't mind the rear wheels sticking out, then it's a different story.
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:25 AM   #10
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What is it about the tow nastys that makes that possible? Width of rim? Or to reword it, what would need to be done to say a junk yard Semi rim to make it fit like a tow nasty without narrowing rear or modifying the fenders?

Custom offset 22" milled wheel offered by Tennessee Wheel & Tire to prevent your wheels sticking out past the rear dually fenders. This wheel saves roughly 2" per side when compared to the normal 22" wheels
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Need help deciding what wheels work on my 73-87 dually. The stock 16's were fine 25yrs ago. Now there are so many options out there.
Can I get dually wheels from any chevy/gmc truck? 88-present
What's the best tire size for direct bolt on 19's or 19.5
Please explain meaning of 22.5 Or 24in semi wheel is milled down.

Will any semi or bread truck rims work on our trucks?
the 22.5 and 24.5 wheels you want the hub piloted wheels to work with the adaptors
if you want to run them on a 2wd truck and lower it you'll need to do one of the following nerrow your rear end or change to a cab and chassy rear or get the townasty wheels from TW&T

Im running the townastys on mine see the link below
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What is it about the tow nastys that makes that possible? Width of rim? Or to reword it, what would need to be done to say a junk yard Semi rim to make it fit like a tow nasty without narrowing rear or modifying the fenders?
I believe the actual width is the same, but they start with a wheel with a flatter hub area. So basically it's a backspacing issue.

Here is a front Tow Nasty...




...and this is a rear Tow Nasty...



...shown with a 16" inner...

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Old 06-04-2010, 09:53 AM   #13
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PigRig I've always admired your truck, even before I owned a dually. Yours is the perfect stance, tucks tire but still has some meat on there and most of has a custom cut. That's what I'm looking for.

What are the specs on your truck? Lowering? Tire size?
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:24 AM   #14
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On my truck before it was bagged I had my 22s with standard width 1 ton rear end and all 6 wheels were 22s my back wheels did not stick out because I took both rear wheels down to a machine shop and where the two rear wheels bolt together I had them machine the mounting face of each wheel down to about 3/8 or 1/2" (cant remeber which) thick which kept them from sticking out. I run a 6.5/8 drop for about a year with this set up before bagging the truck. when we bagged it I did have the rear end narrowed for clearance.


the photos above are with my 6.5/8 drop.
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...my back wheels did not stick out because I took both rear wheels down to a machine shop and where the two rear wheels bolt together I had them machine the mounting face of each wheel down to about 3/8 or 1/2" (cant remeber which) thick which kept them from sticking out...
I never tire of oogling over your truck.

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badgmc you are exactly correct I just machined both back wheels. I have an issue running a 16" inside wheel and different tire size it seems odd to me. Thanks for oogling my truck (i think)!!! lol.
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badgmc you are exactly correct I just machined both back wheels. I have an issue running a 16" inside wheel and different tire size it seems odd to me.
I understand. The thought of it bugs me a bit too, but as long as I can end up with inner and outer tires of matching heights, I could live with it.

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It's a good thing. Trust me.

I hope I can get mine to looking half as good as yours one day.
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if you make it low enough you cant see the rear tires anyways right? By the looks of your blue GMC you will pass me no problem, that truck is sweet.
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if you make it low enough you cant see the rear tires anyways right?
Right. The 5/7 or 6/8 range is about where I'd like it to be if I can resist the urge to lay it out.

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Thanks. My '91 has pretty much been unchanged since 2003. It was built at a time when I had more disposable income. Nowdays with a wife, ex-wife, 2 kids with 1 on the way, a mortgage, car payments and all the other financial drains of life, I just don't have any money to throw at the big toys. I can barely afford to dream about my dually's future at this point.
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when i need tires ( about 60k more miles lol ) i want to buy some 19.5 inch wheels i found a set for like 990 bucks. and i want to run a shorter tire in the front so i can throw some drop springs in my truck.

http://www.duallywheels4u.com/19.5duallywheels.html

when i first bought my truck i wanted some 22s until i saw the price tag of 4,000$...
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PigRig I've always admired your truck, even before I owned a dually. Yours is the perfect stance, tucks tire but still has some meat on there and most of has a custom cut. That's what I'm looking for.

What are the specs on your truck? Lowering? Tire size?
thanks bgrafx
I have the belltech 4/4 my tire size is 265/35/22

and the differance in the townasty wheel is the offset the hub flang is about flush to the wheel lip
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and the differance in the townasty wheel is the offset the hub flang is about flush to the wheel lip
How is it that Tow Nastys are the only wheels out there like this? That's what I've always wanted to know. They have to be starting with some sort of 22.5" semi wheels, but what are they? If I could find a set of those for a good price, I've got a machine shop that could mill them down to 22s, thin out the center and even cut me a custom design.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:08 PM   #23
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www.cwdima.com from houston TX also offers dually wheels.
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Im looking at the picture you posted 1badgmc
not trying to be a dick but let me correct you the first picture is a std hub pilot wheel thats had the flang milled down (in my opinon) to clear the lugs from hitting the front fenderwells when laied out and the second picture is the townasty and judging by the flang thickness it hasnt been milled. thats a good picture to see the offset of the townasty wheel


now let me say this
Im not an expert semi wheel guy but Ive spent a lot of time on the phone with trevor from tennessee wheel and tire before I bought 12 wheels and 8 adaptors. along with reading the alcoa book on up keep of their wheels, and its not how to wash and polish them. the book goes in to detail on how to fix and service them so that truck companys can save them and make them last. so with that said heres my opinon. if the wheels are at a junk yard its for a good resone, and their are alot of different typs of semi wheels: size, bolt pattron,hub piloted, non hub piloted, lug piloted, non lug piloted, offsets and so on unless you know what your looking for your better off to make the jump and buy them from someone thats on the same page as you. in the long run you may save yourself time and money.
Im not try'n to tell anyone how to spend their dollars because you'll do it your way in the end
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