Let's Build A 1 Ton Crew Cab 4x4

[NastyBuzzard]

Yeah I just lack the time to get out to the shop and work on it. When I do I have so much to do, kind of gets overwhelming sometimes. I don't want to just throw it together but then again I want it to run! I need to hear it run to fill my motivation back up.

Pretty much I am only getting a few hours maybe on Saturday and Sunday to go mess with it.

I did find wiring diagrams here:

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/63-...ml#post7049009

Crap ton of information! Now to decipher it all to make a bastard setup using 88 fuse block and interior harness and 83 engine harness.

I really wish I could paint the door jams and finish painting interior of the cab so I can install this stuff for maybe the last time instead of knowing I will have to pull it all out again.


Also looking for cheapest alternative to dynamat.

[daddyjeep]

Originally Posted by NastyBuzzard

Yeah I just lack the time to get out to the shop and work on it. When I do I have so much to do, kind of gets overwhelming sometimes. I don't want to just throw it together but then again I want it to run! I need to hear it run to fill my motivation back up.

Pretty much I am only getting a few hours maybe on Saturday and Sunday to go mess with it.

I really wish I could paint the door jams and finish painting interior of the cab so I can install this stuff for maybe the last time instead of knowing I will have to pull it all out again.


Also looking for cheapest alternative to dynamat.

This sounds all too familiar. I am also just trying to get mine to the point of functioning and then will tear it apart again to finish things right.

I have read a couple posts mentioning a foil backed insulation from Lowes or Home Depot that I am going to check out.

[NastyBuzzard]

Yeah peel and seal is what it is called. I used something very similar when I redid the roof on my addition. It was called storm guard but still basically the same. It is a tar backed roll that has some adhesive on it. It worked great on my roof but smelled like tar and is designed to attach to a flat surface such as a roof and maybe not ceiling of your ride. So I have heard stories of it falling down when applied to ceiling.

Anyways, I believe it could work for sure on the floor and what not but the tar smell is what gets me. It may go away or not be prominent in colder climates but I live in the south so my fear is when it heats up to 100+ and add our humidity, it could stink pretty bad.

So I don't think I am going to use that stuff, just looking for the best alternative to dynamat at good price. So far Fatmat is looking like the best deal 100 sq ft w/ roller & tape for $150.

[daddyjeep]

I was looking around on the net a bit and came across this stuff. It seems to be pretty good stuff and the price is right.

http://www.lobucrod.com/index.html

[NastyBuzzard]

I found that... It isn't like any of the other stuff. It is actually like the insulation I used for the roof of my shop. It is a material filled with tiny bubbles. I am choosing not to use it because you have to use spray glue adhesive to make it stick. So for the price, the Fat mat is a better deal b/c of the adhesive backing it already has.

That's like my opinion though.

[NastyBuzzard]

So I guess I got lucky again. This vacuum pump was included in the parts I bought. It has an engine speed sensor on it I can use for the tach. My buddy tells my I could have just used the crank sensor for the 6.5 but this could work too.



Only problem is I can't find a plug for it in the 83 harness and I am sure I will have to do more than just plug it up to get a tach signal.

[83GMCK2500]

Originally Posted by NastyBuzzard

So I guess I got lucky again. This vacuum pump was included in the parts I bought. It has an engine speed sensor on it I can use for the tach. My buddy tells my I could have just used the crank sensor for the 6.5 but this could work too.



Only problem is I can't find a plug for it in the 83 harness and I am sure I will have to do more than just plug it up to get a tach signal.

That vac pump may be from a late late 6.2 out of a GMT-400 or even a 6.5. Never was diesel + tach in squarebody. I got an alternator with an R-terminal on it for my dad's '87 to get a tach signal.

[NastyBuzzard]

It was definitely in 6.2 squarebody from my research. Just most say was only in California trucks. Seems like a sought after piece to be able to run 4L80E.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/63-...sor-6-2-a.html

GM PN for it is 7849303, but is discontinued. So is the A1-Cardone reman as well.

Since I couldn't replace it I may run the tach from the crank sensor instead on the 6.5 since I am running mechanical IP. Not 100% sure yet.

[NastyBuzzard]

Few picture updates.

Starter bolt was broke off in block... Luckily it wasn't too much of a pain to remove.



Stamping on pistons?



Working on the TA a bit as well as spending time at my buddies shop helping build up the plasma table, for our future ventures.





The 6.5 is finally coming back together... Parts are trickling in. Oil pan and valve covers on using RTV.



Next weekend is my sons 3rd birthday so I doubt I will get much time to be in the shop.

[NastyBuzzard]

Saw a guy had a banks setup for sale but also had the gauges... Now I want a set of the banks gauges to complete my setup. Doubt I will find them though, he doesn't want to separate.



Here is the swing I built. I built it by myself on a rainy ass Saturday. Still got to go back to add the sandbox and slide.



This is what I am having to do to clear the top caliper bracket mount bolt for the brake swap on the drivers side. Not sure if I want to go this route or find a stud.

[83GMCK2500]

Originally Posted by NastyBuzzard

Saw a guy had a banks setup for sale but also had the gauges... Now I want a set of the banks gauges to complete my setup. Doubt I will find them though, he doesn't want to separate.

Call Banks. Last year my dad picked up a low mile 1987 V10 SWB with a 6.2/700R4 and with a couple phone calls he was able to have them piece together an entire turbo kit for it of NOS parts.

[NastyBuzzard]

Turbo finally arrived. Rebuilt like new!

[83GMCK2500]

Mmmm, pretty spiny thing. Glad they finally got the correct bearing in for you.

[NastyBuzzard]

Doing some mock up. I need to know if I'm going to be able to use my 6.5 serpentine setup. Man I hope so but it isn't looking good. Maybe if I didn't have the dual alternator setup. Idk.



Here is the original setup..









It does look like I can clear the x over pipe with my xmember tho..

[NastyBuzzard]

Looks like it will all fit except the vacuum pump. Which is what people have told me so... Woohoo!



Did more tinkering, cleaning and test fitting.



What direction is the vacuum pump distributor supposed to face?



I spent some time helping with building the plasma cutter this weekend as well. Also spent some more time working on the actual finish work of my shop.

I need to get an engine leveler so I can install the 6.5 without damaging anything. I have new motor mounts mounted and I am ready to get this thing installed and wired.

[NastyBuzzard]

I finished the DS brakes. I need to make changes to the adapter brackets and clock the caliper some. Currently you have to shave a good portion of the top bolt to be able to bolt on the caliper bracket.



The offset is turning out to be perfect for me though. I am not a huge fan of wheels sticking out way past the fenders and can always add spacers or whatever if I desire. On my 87 ls truck I built with the H3 calipers up front the wheels stuck outside the fender about 1". Not a huge fan.







So ready to get this diesel in and fire it off to help light a fire under my ass to make quicker progress on getting it together. Just trying not to cut corners and I still have the rear disc conversion bracket to design.

[83GMCK2500]

Originally Posted by NastyBuzzard

The offset is turning out to be perfect for me though. I am not a huge fan of wheels sticking out way past the fenders and can always add spacers or whatever if I desire. On my 87 ls truck I built with the H3 calipers up front the wheels stuck outside the fender about 1". Not a huge fan.

Hot damn, that looks gooooood. I'm also in the keep-the-tires-covered camp.

[NastyBuzzard]

Yes, that is correct. I will be using the stock passenger side setup. I found a couple people who have done it now with no issues.

Its 94 or 95, I cant remember exactly. Has the tall ass first gear.

[Wide Open]

Cool. I think I'm going to try the passenger side setup too.
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[NastyBuzzard]

I will detail it out here when I get too it, which will hopefully be sooner than later but if you do it first let me know! I just can't justify buying that expensive ass Advance Adapters bell housing. I have also seen people drill and tap the NV4500 to accept SM465 hydraulic bell housing (which I have one of) but I would screw it up, I know it.

[Wide Open]

Lol I probably would too. I'm planning on anking mine out and not hacking it up. I'm going to try and mount the 205 directly to the NV4500 tail shaft like someone else did on here but I can't remember who it was.
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[NastyBuzzard]

I think I saw that too but I don't remember.. I was really lucky finding that 32 spline 208 that I found.

[83GMCK2500]

Originally Posted by Wide Open

Lol I probably would too. I'm planning on anking mine out and not hacking it up. I'm going to try and mount the 205 directly to the NV4500 tail shaft like someone else did on here but I can't remember who it was.
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Originally Posted by NastyBuzzard

I think I saw that too but I don't remember.. I was really lucky finding that 32 spline 208 that I found.

I think it is one of DirtyLarry's builds that you're thinking of. I remember seeing a 205 behind a NV4500 as well. EDIT: this one? http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...9&postcount=32

92-94 NV4500s are the ones with the super low first gear. The top cover on the one pictured is 92-94, 95+ have a bolt on shift tower. 1995 NV4500s are a one-year only oddball: http://www.advanceadapters.com/tech-...dentification/

[Wide Open]

Yeah I think that's the one. The thread isn't showing correctly on my phone. Pretty sure it was Dirty Larry and later in his thread he ditches the adapters and cuts the NV4500 tail shaft adapter in a couple of places to make it mount up.

[NastyBuzzard]

Finished digging my drain with what little time I had over the weekend. I also slapped the fuel tank in and drill out some holes to use some larger hardware than 3/8".





Finally some noteworthy progress... What you see here is my model with my brake adapter bracket in it. It is the yellow part. Since I have no mill, I have it out for quote to get made. Hopefully it wont be too pricey. This is to get the rear brakes from a duramax onto my 14bolt so I can have slip on rotors at the rear as well with dual piston calipers.