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Old 10-19-2010, 06:25 PM   #1
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1 Ton Dually Split Rims

Do these have any value at all?

I have a full set of 6ea. off a 1972 chevrolet and was thinking of putting them on craigslist at $10 ea.

Is that too much ... not enough ... or what?

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Old 10-19-2010, 07:40 PM   #2
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

We just got through this weekend fighting with mounting up new tires on ours. We now have great appreciation for the guys who do it for a living! It took three of us at one point to get the old original tire off the rim. We looked like the expression with the monkeys and a football.

But back to your question.....there is always some purist or person on a budget that could use them so put them on and see what happens......NEVER again for me....I have owned 3 C-30's with these things.

What do you have? What did they come off of?
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Old 10-19-2010, 07:50 PM   #3
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

72freak, Thanks!

Its a 72 C/30 Flatbed

It's already been upgraded w/ the newer / safer rims ... I was just checking to see what the old ones were worth before I posted them on C/L
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Old 10-19-2010, 09:01 PM   #4
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

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72freak, Thanks!

Its a 72 C/30 Flatbed

It's already been upgraded w/ the newer / safer rims ... I was just checking to see what the old ones were worth before I posted them on C/L
Post a picture of that jewel.
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:48 AM   #5
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Post a picture of that jewel.
Here's the "jewel", We got it for a farm truck.
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:52 AM   #6
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Here's the "jewel", We got it for a farm truck.
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:56 AM   #7
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:59 AM   #8
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

is it worth $40 to possibly expose yourself to the liability of someone killing themselves when they install rim wrong and blow the ring off? i scrapped my 3/4 ton splits
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:04 AM   #9
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is it worth $40 to possibly expose yourself to the liability of someone killing themselves when they install rim wrong and blow the ring off? i scrapped my 3/4 ton splits
Can you scrap-em with the tires still mounted?
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:45 AM   #10
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

Depends on where you go......I scrapped 2 the other day with tires on them with a 3300 pound load of scrap..
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Old 10-20-2010, 01:23 PM   #11
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

i took sawz-all to tires, rims to scrap
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Old 10-20-2010, 01:29 PM   #12
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Nice truck! I like it!
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Old 10-20-2010, 02:04 PM   #13
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

What's the deal with split rims? What makes them dangerous?
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Old 10-20-2010, 02:13 PM   #14
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

from another forum:
"Split rims have a removable ring (that is split) on one side of the rim, usually the outside. This makes removing the tire off of the rim easy, no tire machine is needed. However, if the person installing the rim ring back onto the rim does not know what they are doing, they could be killed, if the ring flys off during inflation of the newly installed tire. The safest way is to inflate the tire in a cage designed for that purpose. My 1973 Chevy pickup had split rims. I used to fix my own flats, and wrapped a log chain around the tire and rim several times before inflating the tire. I used to hammer the perimeter of the ring the during the inflation process, to make sure it was seated. "
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Old 10-20-2010, 08:52 PM   #15
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

GMCBubba has it exactly right. The only thing that makes these rims dangerous is the person who is mounting tires on them.

There is no question that accidents, including fatal ones, did occur due to user ignorance or negligence. However, given that split rims were the norm for at least 40 years, I feel they have a rep they don't deserve. If they were truly that dangerous, they would have been abandoned much earlier.

The best reason for not using them today is that there is a growing number of shops which refuse to work on them (because the old guys who know how are dying off). If you can mount the tires yourself and know how to take proper precautions (like a barrier between you and the tire when inflating) these rims will work as well for you as they did for millions of owners in the past.

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Old 10-20-2010, 09:23 PM   #16
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

yep...I have monted my share of them in the back yard garage.....just dont air them up with the ring facing out or at you and dont stand in front of them when putting them on the truck. They also can be a llittle hazardous to motorcycles rididng next to you when you hit a large bump.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:26 AM   #17
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

Some heavy equipment, especially in the military still use split rims. They can't be that dangerous when a $200,000 loader comes with them for our use.

Last deployment I could build a grader tire in about 30 minutes using improvised tools and a grader blade over the tire during inflation. These things are dangerous while building, but once they're on they're on. Just use your head building them.

I'm even considering putting a set of 3/4 ton split rims on my burb's winter tires so I can build my own if I feel like it.
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:00 PM   #18
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72freak, Thanks!

Its a 72 C/30 Flatbed

It's already been upgraded w/ the newer / safer rims.
I am wondering what rims you put on the truck to replace the split rims. My truck has hub-centric rims and I had such a devil of a time finding an alternative, that I had the truck tire store mount up new tires and tubes on my split rims. Cost me a fortune, but at least it's road worthy.

The lug nuts for the hub centric rims are flat not tapered. And my wheel studs are the small 1/2" variety. So that's why I'm wondering which rims would be good replacements.

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Old 10-21-2010, 07:23 PM   #19
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[QUOTE=Todd C;4253002]I am wondering what rims you put on the truck to replace the split rims. QUOTE]

Todd, The rear end has been replaced w/ a later model 14 bolt Gm (I think).

And the previous owner must have drilled out the org. front rotors and retro-fitted w/ 9/16's lugs.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:24 PM   #20
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Re: 1 Ton Dually Split Rims

I gave my two-piece wheels to the local scrap yard. In my state it's mandatory that any two-piece wheel be serviced in a cage. My wheels weren't split-rims in the strictest sense, but had the main wheel body with a closed ring with notches made into them that fit over the retainer part of the wheel. Kinda hard to explain, but the ring was continuous, it didn't have a "cut" across it like the 18 wheelers do.

Agreed, these are hub centered wheels, I ended up getting another set of solid wheels, installed 9/16 lugs, and a set of lug nuts with captured washers.

Bpawb, good looking truck, what are your plans for it?
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Bpawb, good looking truck, what are your plans for it?
slomotion, thanks!

plans are: use it like it is ... we bought it to replace our old farm vehicle.
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What a classy way to run to town for supplies.Custom Deluxe to boot!
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We just got through this weekend fighting with mounting up new tires on ours. We now have great appreciation for the guys who do it for a living! It took three of us at one point to get the old original tire off the rim. We looked like the expression with the monkeys and a football.

But back to your question.....there is always some purist or person on a budget that could use them so put them on and see what happens......NEVER again for me....I have owned 3 C-30's with these things.

What do you have? What did they come off of?
Did you take some pictures of when you guys broke the rims down im trying to figure these out, also trying to replace the original tires with new ones.
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