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Old 01-19-2019, 06:35 PM   #51
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Re: 57 Chevy Wagon - Californa Dreamin'

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You sir are are much braver.. strike that... much more talented than I. I await with anticipation to see the results!
Thanks, Mike, but sometimes perseverance outweighs talent. You just have to resolve to fix what you screw up.

So today, after sitting down and reading the instructions a couple more times, taking some measurements of the hinge and doing a considerable amount of pondering, I decided to follow the theory that "less is more" and reduce the size of the piece to be cut out. Figured it would be easier to remove more metal than weld it back in. Between the cutoff wheel and the mini air saw, I was finally able to remove the section I'd taped off. I knew from the get go that the wheel well would probably be in the way... and it was. To reach the area that needed to be cut out, I had to take off the tire and wheel as well as the BelAir quarter panel trim. Nasty work trimming the wheel well. It has a heavy layer of undercoating material that really stinks when you burn thru it with the cutoff wheel.

After some additional trimming, I was finally able to fit the hinge in from the back side and mock it up more or less where it needs to be. It looks like it will swing level and stay clear of the quarter. At this point, I need to tack it in place and make a dummy door panel to verify the clearance.

We're definitely swimming in the deep end of the pool now!
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:37 PM   #52
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Old 01-19-2019, 09:01 PM   #53
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Scary stuff..... to me anyway.
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Old 01-20-2019, 06:26 PM   #54
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Scary stuff..... to me anyway.
I agree, Dale. When this much cutting and welding is involved, you reach a point where it absolutely has to work because there's no going back.

Today I ticky-tack welded the hinge box into place so I could perform the recommended "fake door test". As I feared, installing the hinge dead level isn't the hot tip. The door edge would clear the quarter panel, but not the lower trim piece. It did have plenty of clearance past the upper stainless trim, though. I'll have to follow the advanced leveling procedure and tilt the hinge pin backward at the top and inward the same amount. Since everything is barely tacked in place, it will be easy to break it all loose and start over. Tomorrow...
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Getting to fit will be your reward!!! I have yella streak, soo normal open works for this coward. LOL
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:07 PM   #56
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Getting to fit will be your reward!!! I have yella streak, soo normal open works for this coward. LOL
I think I'm getting closer, Dale. Tilted the hinge box in and back about 5 degrees and tacked it in place. It looks weird, but it swings level and clears the lower stainless trim a lot better than before. I posted a video below...

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Old 01-21-2019, 06:23 PM   #57
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This is seriously stretching my geometry and imagination. Gonna have to go lay down for awhile! Maybe a cold malt beverage.
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Well, you've gone well past my comfort level... Looks like you're getting a good handle on it though. I'm curious how it will work out with that hinge... My brain hurts trying to follow the explanation of changing angles and how that would work. Thanks for the video, it helped a lot.
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This is seriously stretching my geometry and imagination. Gonna have to go lay down for awhile! Maybe a cold malt beverage.
Me too, Rickster. I kept looking at it and it seemed totally wrong until I put the fake door panel on it. Even though the hinge looks goofy, it swings nice and level. Wish you were here, not that I need an excuse for a cold malt beverage.

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Well, you've gone well past my comfort level... Looks like you're getting a good handle on it though. I'm curious how it will work out with that hinge... My brain hurts trying to follow the explanation of changing angles and how that would work. Thanks for the video, it helped a lot.
Hey, Duane, I'm usually of the opinion that I can fix most anything I screw up, but this is uncharted territory for me too. I'm trying to document it as best I can so as to encourage the other crazies lurking out there.

Since the fake door test went okay, I marked the cut lines on the hinge box and sliced all the excess off. Mocked it up to see if it all looked okay and then realized I'd forgotten to close up the back of the hinge box that faces the wheel well. Removed it and tacked on some sheetmetal and will primer and partially paint it before I weld out the front. I'll probably put an additional shield in using the front edge of the old wheel well as a splash guard, but I doubt I'll be driving it in the mud very much.
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