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Old 02-12-2011, 12:46 PM   #51
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Re: Bolt in steering rack

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I'm not so sure about that.
250 and 292 P/S brackets and pulleys are getting harder and harder to come by.
How hard would it be to make a set? Could a more common pulley be used if someone stepped up and fabbed the brackets?
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:00 PM   #52
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Its does have some ugly on it, But it was a first attempt and has been refined greatly since then. The out come was to have a truck suspension under a truck that was driven daily and not have to turn the wheel 5 turns from lock to lock. As far as looks unless I planned on having the guys over to stare at my rack for the afternoon and not the gril next stores rack then I would have done a C5 or something
I'm interested, Have you drivin with this set-up? We looked at the mustang/T-Bird R/P, but it seemed to have limited movement. 5.18" total stroke, compared to 7.36" stroke lock-to-lock on the stock steering stops. Do you get full turning? Sounds like a good aproach.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:08 PM   #53
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How hard would it be to make a set? Could a more common pulley be used if someone stepped up and fabbed the brackets?
You got my hint! Ha.
A cool serpentine set-up would be cool also.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:11 PM   #54
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Re: Bolt in steering rack

well guys this is interesting and I will keep watching this.
so far I have built and installed an ls motor did this before it was popular so i built my own mounts so it is in a different spot than all else. I have also cut and built coil over setup for mine.
the rack and pinion would be a welcome addition however with what was said about teh engine mounts I am wondering if this will work for me? I will watch wish i was closer to california, well no I dont lol i wish u guys were closer to Missouri...
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Old 02-12-2011, 06:44 PM   #55
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Re: Bolt in steering rack

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I'm interested, Have you drivin with this set-up? We looked at the mustang/T-Bird R/P, but it seemed to have limited movement. 5.18" total stroke, compared to 7.36" stroke lock-to-lock on the stock steering stops. Do you get full turning? Sounds like a good aproach.
I haven't done any hiway driving, only around the block driving. It seemed to turn ok but I really didn't pay a whole lot of attenion to the radius. I have since pulled the truck apart so I haven't driven it for a long time. I can check the lock to lock angles at the outside of the wheels and let you know just what it comes out to be.
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:18 PM   #56
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Re: Bolt in steering rack

bring this back up as I am interested to see what will be available and when. Like I said before my setup is way different than most as I have built what I needed to make my truck what it is but this looks like a neat option.
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:29 AM   #57
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Re: Bolt in steering rack

don't worry, I'm still working on it.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:00 AM   #58
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:36 PM   #59
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Re: Bolt in steering rack

We are now driving, and testing. Also, we have to work with a rack manufacturer, to get them the way we want, so that is still in negotiations. I should know more next week.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:25 PM   #60
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Just out of curiosity, how is the clearance between the engine and the rack? I've got my engine set as low and as far back as I could get it without major cutting and there is barely an 1/8" of clearance between my crank pulley and my center drag link.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:19 PM   #61
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I think it will be OK, top of the rack body is 3/8" lower than the top of the stock drag link
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:59 AM   #62
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Cool, any ballpark guesses when you'll have it ready for market?
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:18 PM   #63
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Well, in typical No Limit style, it may take a few months. I'd say July is a safe bet. I can't, in good conscious, sell a new part that we have'nt beat on for at least 5k miles, then dis-assembled and tested. After all, these are steering parts, and we would hate to kill someone. , but i will keep everyone up to date. Thanks for the interest.
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:04 PM   #64
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:49 AM   #65
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Here's a few spy shots. The new mounting does not require any cutting or welding to the crossmember. Just drill five mounting holes. A small notch is needed to clear the steering. This unit is mounted on the JT, and will be in Del-Mar next week. We are now moving into the production phase.
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Put me down for the first unit! This falls into what I have been going for on project cod fish! Old school look with modern technology. I am very excited to see this come about thanks for all you guys do to make our trucks better!
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Hey Rob,

Any pics of the driver side motor mount/rack clearance?
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Looks good Rob Just curious, is it set up for optimum bumpsteer with stock caster, or is it set up for arms with increased caster?
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Let's us know when they are available for purchase ill take one. Thanks for keep us posted
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Mech77, It is a tunable set up. The new tie rod end sits under the steering arm using a high-misalignment rod end. With stock arms, (and 2 or 3 deg of caster) use no spacers, then add 1/8" spacer for each 3* of increased caster.
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Hey Rob, Ive been following your threads with drool running, You once stated the lower and further back the better, sooo. How about ten inches back and four inches lower. Ill have some pictures later.
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I guess that's not with a stock firewall , Is oil pan clearance an issue? Love to see it.
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Mech77, It is a tunable set up. The new tie rod end sits under the steering arm using a high-misalignment rod end. With stock arms, (and 2 or 3 deg of caster) use no spacers, then add 1/8" spacer for each 3* of increased caster.
Awesome....still looking at $600-$700 for the kit? Also, any closer guess on when it will be available?
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I like the spy pics. glad this is commong along. thanks for the updates:
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I assume this set-up will work with the 73-87 GM trucks, maybe with a different outer tie rod end? Or, does it use the stock outer tie rod end?
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