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Old 05-19-2020, 02:39 PM   #26
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easy there guys.. meanwhile im still looking for a paint
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Old 05-19-2020, 04:21 PM   #27
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SPI epoxy will be the best option. It lays out smooth, has a nice sheen (not too flat or too glossy), doesn't have to be top coated, and has UV protection so it won't fade. It has excellent adhesion and corrosion resistance. If you do decide to top coat it you have a 7 day window to re-coat without the need for sanding.
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easy there guys.. meanwhile im still looking for a paint
Go with the SPI, you wonít be disappointed.
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I again agree---SPI...nothing else needed
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That's a nice looking truck I wish you luck
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Old 05-19-2020, 06:52 PM   #31
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Chevy2NV pm me a number or email to send pics to if you want to see the sheen
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SPI epoxy will be the best option. It lays out smooth, has a nice sheen (not too flat or too glossy), doesn't have to be top coated, and has UV protection so it won't fade.
I questioned SPI on UV protection and they wouldn't confirm or deny.

Epoxy primer does not have UV protection so dont be surprised when it "chalks" as any epoxy will.
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I questioned SPI on UV protection and they wouldn't confirm or deny.

Epoxy primer does not have UV protection so dont be surprised when it "chalks" as any epoxy will.
I repaired a cowl hood years ago for a guy that liked it in sealer and ran it for at least 3-4 years on his car before final painting and it never chalked, not saying it has UV protection in it or not but it definitely looked good when I saw it again!
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My understanding is it doesnít have UV protection But if itís on the frame itís not going to get the sun
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When I said sealer I mean SPI reduced and used as a sealer
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SPI epoxy can be used as a topcoat if it's not going to be in direct sunlight (like on a frame) and it's uv/fade resistance can be increased by letting it induce for four hours before spraying it.
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John , when you say induce, what exactly does that mean?..mix epoxy and let sit for 4 hrs?
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John , when you say induce, what exactly does that mean?..mix epoxy and let sit for 4 hrs?
Yes, there's a 30 min induction time already recommended on the label. Barry says letting it induce for 4 hours is optimal for UV resistance and sprayability.
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Yes, there's a 30 min induction time already recommended on the label. Barry says letting it induce for 4 hours is optimal for UV resistance and sprayability.
Good to know about 4 hrs, frames donít see much UV any way
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Did you get the pics?
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I used 2 coats of SPI Epoxy and topcoat with Medallion Rubber Seal MRS-4200.

It comes out to an absolutely beautiful sheen and really lays out nice.

I just got done spraying the frame and a bunch of other parts for my new truck. But this is my other one:

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looks good Jason!!!
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Did you get the pics?
Yes I did. Thank you. For some reason I was not able to open this thread.
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Yes, there's a 30 min induction time already recommended on the label. Barry says letting it induce for 4 hours is optimal for UV resistance and sprayability.
Longer induction times don't add UV protection to any product, mush less epoxy primer which never has UV resistance! Come on guys! Use some critical thinking skills!

Epoxy Primer is just that ... "primer". A coating to interface between metal and another coating such as high build urethane primer or paint. It's not designed to be left open to the elements indefinitely. It's "primer"! It's designed to give corrosion protection from under it. Top coats have UV protection because they are "top coats".

If you want to use any epoxy primer on a frame because it's just the right shade of black with the right sheen, go right ahead. Nobody is saying you can't. Just don't fool yourself into believing it has UV protection because all epoxy primers including SPI, DO NOT have UV protection. Again, I called SPI and they couldn't confirm with documentation that their primer has UV protection therefore it doesn't!
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Foostomper you're going to get it now. How dare you.question the experts. I can't wait to see the remarks fly now.
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I used 3 coats of SPI on the frame and suspension components.
Two years later it still looks like new.....not alot of sun exposure and tough as nails.
The induction time and stirring the crap out out of it is key. Don't get in a hurry.
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Foostomper you're going to get it now. How dare you.question the experts. I can't wait to see the remarks fly now.
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Some people sit around and read books other people get out and work on their own trucks! I originally stated that to my understanding it did not have UV protection your frame and suspension don’t see much sunlight anyway I really don’t think it’s an issue but we will find out! I painted my frame and all of the suspension with PPG‘s epoxy primer $500 a gallon and then topcoded it with Eastwoods top-of-the-line ceramic urethane. I had some parts left and did not want to buy more paint so I gave them three coats of SPI epoxy black Everything was blasted to white metal so in 20 years from now I’ll report back to y’all and let you know which one held up the best lol
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Foostomper you're going to get it now. How dare you.question the experts. I can't wait to see the remarks fly now.
Youíre a troll. I responded with real world spec of industrial jobs etc and you only post info off of the website and insults...just stop your nonsense.
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You’re a troll. I responded with real world spec of industrial jobs etc and you only post info off of the website and insults...just stop your nonsense.
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