Subs vs pickups - differences? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**ScottH** · 03-11-2003, 05:49 PM

Can you guys shed some light on what the differences are between subs and pickups? Aside from the obvious, are rears interchangeable, fenders, grilles, dashes, etc?

Any info is appreciated.

smokekiki · 03-11-2003, 06:10 PM

there is a difference in the way the window frames of the doors fit.Everything else you mention interchange.

*Randy70C-10* · 03-11-2003, 06:12 PM

Everything is interchangeable except for the frame, body (of course), and doors (i think).

1969 GMC · 03-11-2003, 06:19 PM

The backup light lenses are different. I dunno about other lights, tho.

smokekiki · 03-11-2003, 06:37 PM

Yes back-up and tails are different

ckhd · 03-11-2003, 06:56 PM

Define "interchangable". There is a guy in town that took off a '68 'burb body and put on a '72 pickup body. The only differences in frames are body mountings.

*Gee_Emm* · 03-11-2003, 11:19 PM

The front doors are unique, the edges are square at the top back of the window.

*Shane* · 03-11-2003, 11:51 PM

one has 2 doors .. the other has 3 plus the rear gate/barn doors.

>X< · 03-11-2003, 11:57 PM

i guess you could say that the front doors are interchangeable, if you have the top rear of the door from a truck you could cut and weld it on onto a burb and hve the same door, haha

ZOOMY · 03-12-2003, 05:32 AM

I have a divine 69 lwb truck on a 71 burb 4x4 frame. I had to make 1 pair of mounts. That's it....Zoomy

PanelDeland · 03-12-2003, 10:53 AM

Gosh guys, you forgot to mention one of the most posted topics.The fuel tanks are different, but will interchange with some mods.

**CPNE** · 03-12-2003, 11:20 AM

Wiring harnesses!

The taillight harness runs through roof pillar and along roof to rear. The dash harness is slightly different because of this. You can interchage dash harnesses with a little splicing.

**ScottH** · 03-12-2003, 02:33 PM

Thanks for all the great info. BTW, are subs coil or leaf rears?

smokekiki · 03-12-2003, 02:44 PM

I believe they are like the trucks 2 wheel could be either,4wheelers are leaf.

**CPNE** · 03-12-2003, 03:26 PM

I believe smokiki is correct, 2wd burbs could be had both ways. However, these were more transportation vehicles versus work vehicles and as such I'd be willing to bet the vast majority were coil spring for the ride comfort factor. I've seen several 2wd gmc's both 1/2 and 3/4 ton 2wd and all were coils as are all the chevys I've seen. Anybody have a 2wd leaf spring burb?

AndrewDT · 03-13-2003, 04:16 PM

My 4X4 has leafs. Biggest difference is that there are less reproduction parts available for subs. i.e doors, rear fenders, especially trim pieces, rear interior panels, headliners. It means more searching for GM parts in junkyards which is more fun than buying repro anyway. I bought repro doors for a pickup and saved my old window channels and switched them. It worked great. The inner door is not an exact fit but close and better than rust!

03-11-2003, 05:49 PM	#1
ScottH Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hampstead, NC Posts: 8,187	Subs vs pickups - differences? Can you guys shed some light on what the differences are between subs and pickups? Aside from the obvious, are rears interchangeable, fenders, grilles, dashes, etc? Any info is appreciated.

03-11-2003, 06:10 PM	#2
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,474	there is a difference in the way the window frames of the doors fit.Everything else you mention interchange. __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

03-11-2003, 06:19 PM	#4
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	The backup light lenses are different. I dunno about other lights, tho. __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

03-11-2003, 06:37 PM	#5
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,474	Yes back-up and tails are different __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

03-11-2003, 06:56 PM	#6
ckhd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: St. Johns, Arizona Posts: 2,660	Define "interchangable". There is a guy in town that took off a '68 'burb body and put on a '72 pickup body. The only differences in frames are body mountings. __________________ my 2¢ - t.i.o.l.i. Bowen 1968 K20 fleet 1969 K10 swb fleet 1972 K10 Suburban 1972 C10 lwb step 1992 K1500 'burb 1995 K2500 'burb 1997 C1500 'burb 1999 K1500 2000 K1500 'burb Why do I own so many Suburbans?

03-11-2003, 06:12 PM	#3
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Everything is interchangeable except for the frame, body (of course), and doors (i think).

03-11-2003, 11:19 PM	#7
Gee_Emm Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,002	The front doors are unique, the edges are square at the top back of the window.

03-11-2003, 11:51 PM	#8
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	one has 2 doors .. the other has 3 plus the rear gate/barn doors.

03-11-2003, 11:57 PM	#9
>X< registered IWATA user Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 4,483	i guess you could say that the front doors are interchangeable, if you have the top rear of the door from a truck you could cut and weld it on onto a burb and hve the same door, haha __________________ -'63 Ford Fairlane 500 coupe, v8, auto, faded and rusty. awaiting built roller 302 and some flat black -'99 Honda Prelude. vtech/5spd. no pipe, no intake, bone stock. awaiting new top end. -01 GMC Yukon SLT 5.3 dented and scratched with a noisy tranny. Take off that Von Dutch hat before i stab you with a 000 Mack.

03-12-2003, 05:32 AM	#10
ZOOMY Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: WIS Posts: 1,752	burb/truck I have a divine 69 lwb truck on a 71 burb 4x4 frame. I had to make 1 pair of mounts. That's it....Zoomy

03-12-2003, 10:53 AM	#11
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03-12-2003, 11:20 AM	#12
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,664	Wiring harnesses! The taillight harness runs through roof pillar and along roof to rear. The dash harness is slightly different because of this. You can interchage dash harnesses with a little splicing. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

03-12-2003, 02:33 PM	#13
ScottH Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hampstead, NC Posts: 8,187	Thanks for all the great info. BTW, are subs coil or leaf rears?

03-12-2003, 02:44 PM	#14
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,474	I believe they are like the trucks 2 wheel could be either,4wheelers are leaf. __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

03-12-2003, 03:26 PM	#15
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,664	I believe smokiki is correct, 2wd burbs could be had both ways. However, these were more transportation vehicles versus work vehicles and as such I'd be willing to bet the vast majority were coil spring for the ride comfort factor. I've seen several 2wd gmc's both 1/2 and 3/4 ton 2wd and all were coils as are all the chevys I've seen. Anybody have a 2wd leaf spring burb? __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all



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03-13-2003, 04:16 PM	#16
AndrewDT Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Woods, Minnesota Posts: 196	My 4X4 has leafs. Biggest difference is that there are less reproduction parts available for subs. i.e doors, rear fenders, especially trim pieces, rear interior panels, headliners. It means more searching for GM parts in junkyards which is more fun than buying repro anyway. I bought repro doors for a pickup and saved my old window channels and switched them. It worked great. The inner door is not an exact fit but close and better than rust! __________________ '72 Suburban 4X4 "Save the Earth, kill yourself"

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