Stopped by the ford dealership

[Tom]

Originally Posted by cornerstone

Why in the world would Chevrolet do that!?

I don't personally know a single person who's bought a regular cab truck in the last 20yrs at least. That's why they stopped.

[Greg58]

Originally Posted by Tom

I don't personally know a single person who's bought a regular cab truck in the last 20yrs at least. That's why they stopped.

I bought a regular cab, 6.0
2000 Silverado 2500 4x4 new. The salesman asked me if I really wanted a regular cab?? We had to order it!
Greg

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by FleetsidePaul

No. But I burned my leg on my Harley at a barbecue (how appropriate) I rolled up and was so busy running my mouth that when I got off the bike I had neglected to put the kickstand down. It fell right on me. I was lucky there were people there to lift the bike off me. That bike was heavy. And that pipe was burning hot. I was wearing shorts and my leg was medium rare.

But I did meet a cute girl there. So WTF.

Dude no shorts on a Harley. Gold wing yes Harley no.


My last new truck 2007 Dodge CDT 4 door with an 8 ft cab. Pulled a camper with two kids. Prior to that was a 1998 GMC 12 pass van . Three young kids and three rows of seats each had their own bench seat. Made the trip nice and quiet.

[FleetsidePaul]

Originally Posted by 72c20customcamper

Dude no shorts on a Harley. Gold wing yes Harley no.

I was young. What more can I say. I did a lot of stupid things. A LOT!

[davischevy]

Originally Posted by 1976gmc20

I saw a young couple driving a 1969 Impala over Tincup Pass back in 1989. They made it down the west side okay but the car was somewhat the worse for wear. Ironically, we were driving my old short bed 2wd stepside. But that was back when they still made pickups. It had 16" wheels and a four speed.

It wasn't really their fault. Back then the east side was just a rough gravel road, and they started down the west side before they realized how bad it was and it was too late to turn back. They more or less skidded down the first half mile on their rocker panels. I haven't been back up there now for decades, but judging from YT videos the road has been all tore to hell by motorcycles.

It's not that it's so rough around here (though my driveway is deep rutted now because of the UPS truck ) but I don't see how anyone ever gets all the mud off the bottom of low clearance vehicles. It's hard enough to hose off the Jeep and the 4x4 pickups.

We went over Tin Cup last year, and it is one of the roughest trails I have ever been on. We went up the west side. We met an old military jeep at the top and the guy had his wife and kid with him. I can't imagine riding down In that thing.

[1976gmc20]

Originally Posted by davischevy

We went over Tin Cup last year, and it is one of the roughest trails I have ever been on. We went up the west side. We met an old military jeep at the top and the guy had his wife and kid with him. I can't imagine riding down In that thing.

Well, it didn't used to be that rough at all, except for the "old" section partway down the west side, and I even drove that in the 1970s with my stock K20 (it was "interesting" but not really tough). Thirty years ago you could drive a car up the east side, and the only rough spot was the first half mile or so down the west side as long as you stayed on the newer/higher road with the switchback. And like I said, I drove up there one evening from Tincup with my wife and two little kids in my old 2wd short stepside pickup with a six and a four speed. There were a couple of rocky ruts near the top that you had to bounce up and over. Funny, we also had a 4x4 pickup but I saw no need to use it.

I guess people need a place to go and brag about it, and I suppose another 30 years of natural erosion has taken its toll, but I see no reason why the road(s) should have gotten so much worse than they did the previous 100 years, other than the high horsepower motorcycle riders that insist on rooster-tailing their way everywhere. Even before we left, some of the hiking trails that had been very nice had been torn up to the point that they were nothing but huge rocks. I haven't been back up in the park for almost 25 years now, but our friends who have a cabin a few miles down from Tincup tell us that the motorcycles and ATVs scream up and down the valley all day long all summer long now. A few years ago they finally came up to visit our place and were amazed how quiet it is and how little traffic there is here.

Okay, sorry for the rant, but it really was an out of the way Shangri-La clear up until about the mid 1980s when the feds insisted on shoving a paved road up around Taylor Dam. And now I hear that Cottonwood is paved all the way down to the lake

[special-K]

Originally Posted by FleetsidePaul

No. But I burned my leg on my Harley at a barbecue (how appropriate) I rolled up and was so busy running my mouth that when I got off the bike I had neglected to put the kickstand down. It fell right on me. I was lucky there were people there to lift the bike off me. That bike was heavy. And that pipe was burning hot. I was wearing shorts and my leg was medium rare.

But I did meet a cute girl there. So WTF.

I always wear boots and jeans to ride, and ask the same of the goils. But I was at a swap meet during the Myrtle Beach bike rally and there was this booth with "Foxy Boxers" where you'd pay to sit in a chair with on your leg for a picture. I said I want a picture but I'm pulling my bike up. I pulled up and all three hopped on. The one who was on the tank (nice smudges left on the tanks) facing me with her feet on the footboards burned her cute little leg on the exhaust. It was all fun until that happened as she climbed off.

Originally Posted by Tom

I don't personally know a single person who's bought a regular cab truck in the last 20yrs at least. That's why they stopped.

This is what annoys me about people. Such monkey see monkey do trend followers. Ford and Dodge were making ext cabs in the '70s and it was mostly only horse people and RV haulers who bought them. GM didn't make those because they had the Crewcab and Suburban. The Suburban has been around since the '30s. If you needed a back seat, cargo space (6'), and towing capability you could buy a Suburban. But they were never that popular for general family use. There were the full-size K5s, Broncos, Ramchargers, and Traildusters for people who wanted a truck type vehicle that could carry a small family and didn't really need a fullsize bed, yet could tow and they sold a limited amount of those (compared to today's no-need truck market). And let's not forget Vans with all the comforts and hauling ability. There were station wagons that could haul an RV trailer or a boat, but they became uncool and production dropped out on those. Then came the mini-van as a more useful design that used less fuel. Those took over with families until a stigma of uncoolness was attached to them. This came after the event of the 4dr SUV. This brought families to the SUV world. This was a little after GM went to ext cabs, which were available with a shortbed. Then came the crewcab shortbeds. By now most pickups sold were to people who didn't really need one (true, have one and you will find them handy at times), more for the image. Now we have families, people with shiny shoes, soft clean hands, living in cities driving pickups more as a car than a truck, and they need a back seat. I remember when it was only country bumpkins you'd see with the family crowded into the pickup to come into town and the people who drive the $60k trucks today were looking down their noses at the hicks who don't even have a car. It's no secret the emphasis on truck sales has not been to the working man for a long time and now we are coming full circle to where the truck being about hauling cargo with space for the operator and a helper has changed to being a vehicle with a backseat that can haul more than shopping bags or luggage. And... you have contractors now running shortbed ext cabs with a ladder rack to haul a 24' ladder or 12' lumber that could be laid nicely in the bed of a longbed. Try carrying a 24' walkboard and pump jack poles on a ladder rack with 6' base for mounting.

For me trucks are for work and fun. For passengers I've always had a Suburban and a Blazer or Jimmy

[burnin oil]

Originally Posted by Tom

I don't personally know a single person who's bought a regular cab truck in the last 20yrs at least. That's why they stopped.

I did. The replacement was a 4 door because the price was right and it's easier to sell a 4 door. I would have another standard cab in a hot minute but they are way to expensive. This thread got me to build one on chevrolet.com. 48+k for a standard cab diesel 4x4 with no options. Nope. That's not happening. I can rebuild an old truck and be happy. Around here you see alot of newer standard cab trucks but most are farm trucks and long beds. Personally I think they should just get rid of the gas hog grocery getters and go back to the days of work trucks with minimal options. That should drive the cost down to where you dont need a second mortgage.

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by burnin oil

I did. The replacement was a 4 door because the price was right and it's easier to sell a 4 door. I would have another standard cab in a hot minute but they are way to expensive. This thread got me to build one on chevrolet.com. 48+k for a standard cab diesel 4x4 with no options. Nope. That's not happening. I can rebuild an old truck and be happy. Around here you see alot of newer standard cab trucks but most are farm trucks and long beds. Personally I think they should just get rid of the gas hog grocery getters and go back to the days of work trucks with minimal options. That should drive the cost down to where you dont need a second mortgage.

That will never happen they make way more money on trucks and SUVs than cars. It's all about the profits.

[1976gmc20]

Those old single cab pickups with bench seats could be really handy. One time I took three gals and we went off on a afternoon drive up a mountain, as far as we could get. The trail was really off camber in one section and so the four of us were all sliding toward the low side. Of course we couldn't slide very far because it was pretty tight

It would not have been near as much fun in a four door pickup with bucket seats.

[special-K]

Packin' into the pickup. It's just how it was meant to be. Cars are made for hauling people. Trucks are made for hauling.

[davischevy]

The last new pickup I bought for myself was in 1990. It was a K1500 single cab swb.

[1976gmc20]

Originally Posted by special-K

Packin' into the pickup. It's just how it was meant to be. Cars are made for hauling people. Trucks are made for hauling.

You will enjoy this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4I06dL1368

[TwoFiftyShifter]

Ford is great. They have been the real innovators in the pickup segment, not GM. They aren't afraid to try things and also didn't get bought out in 08. Probably the best truck you can buy for the past 15 years or so. I like that their extended cab truck isn't a 4 door like GM. I considered buying a newish one last year. F150, 5L V8, crew cab with 6.5ft bed. Went on a trip instead

[dajn]

Originally Posted by Tom

I don't personally know a single person who's bought a regular cab truck in the last 20yrs at least. That's why they stopped.

Which is sad. I quess everyone looks for status and needs that extended cab with all the options that really doesnt gain you anything. I miss regular cab pickups with the 8 foot box. Crank windows. Just give me cruise and ac. It's sad that pickups went this route. Geared towards luxury and status instead of performance. We did it to ourselves. They didn't need to get this expensive.

[Boog]

I still prefer a reg cab shorty, always have. But some years ago I stepped up to an ext cab and then the current crew cab because of needing to carry things inside the cab that just wouldn't fit in a reg cab. That's no longer a need with the job change so once again I am keeping an eye out for a nice reg cab shorty.

[special-K]

I just can't believe it has come to people minding their own business getting stopped by the Ford dealership

[67swb72klb]

So the late model GM SWB regular cab trucks are going to be through the roof now that they are obsolete...
I really like my 02 I picked up last year the 5.3 makes it a fun driver and plenty of room inside

[72 tigger]

Originally Posted by special-K

I just can't believe it has come to people minding their own business getting stopped by the Ford dealership

You’re funny K! At least I didn’t get a ticket

[Stocker]

Originally Posted by 72 tigger

You’re funny K! At least I didn’t get a ticket

Or worse, placed under house arrest until you bought a new Ford!

[special-K]

Originally Posted by 1976gmc20

You will enjoy this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4I06dL1368

Thanks. I really did

[1976gmc20]

Originally Posted by special-K

Thanks. I really did

You're welcome They play that sometimes on one of the local radio stations out here.

[special-K]

I like to pluck out a few cowboy songs myself..... once in a long good while. Can't hardly play a tune but when it gets to be time to play one I'm not caring much

[1976gmc20]

Originally Posted by special-K

I like to pluck out a few cowboy songs myself..... once in a long good while. Can't hardly play a tune but when it gets to be time to play one I'm not caring much

I need to get my flattop back out. I got chilblains in my hands last fall and that sort of put me off of my winter music. Seems like I need to have some sort of spark down in my spirit in order to play guitar and sing, and that has been missing for a while.

I just thought you would appreciate the family crowded into the cab and the kid riding in the back with the horse

[special-K]

I did