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Old 01-18-2011, 04:33 PM   #26
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Re: Bolt in steering rack

you got a ballpak price yet
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:26 PM   #27
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As luck would have it, we are currently testing a C-10 Rack&Pinion set-up. (67-87) I'll let you know when were done. So far it fits very nice. 2.75 turns lock-to-lock. Full steering to 40 deg (same as stock). .136 deg bump-out in 4" of compression travel, and .166 deg bump-out in 4" of droop. This mod will require some cutting and welding on the crossmember. We are working on the install templates, and machined adjusters for the TRE. --- SOON, VERY SOON.
I am very interested in this upgrade keep me posted!!!!
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:33 PM   #28
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Same here please keep me posted.
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Old 01-19-2011, 02:02 PM   #29
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you got a ballpak price yet
HAHA, not yey, but I have to guess it'll be less than $3000.00 - a lot less. I'm going to test one on out JT 72, in a couple of weeks. Then I'll get some picts up. Sorry, but I can't let to much out yet, as a lot of our competion uses us for R & D (Rip-off and Duplicate)

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Old 01-19-2011, 02:48 PM   #30
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rip off and duplicate thats funny sh*&t never heard that one befor. but understood just keep us posted im very intredted thanks.
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Old 01-19-2011, 03:13 PM   #31
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HAHA, not yey, but I have to guess it'll be less than $3000.00 - a lot less. I'm going to test one on out JT 72, in a couple of weeks. Then I'll get some picts up. Sorry, but I can't let to much out yet, as a lot of our competion uses us for R & D (Rip-off and Duplicate)
I don't see any of us vendors on here doing that.... Nate does his thing, we do ours, i dont see cpp doing that soooo post away rob
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Old 01-22-2011, 12:08 PM   #32
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Very interesting,

If it is possible to manufacture this kit to be affordable and still make a profit, I think it would sell like crazy!!
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:42 PM   #33
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Old 01-22-2011, 04:34 PM   #34
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OK guys, it's looking good so far. This kit will include a P/S rack, mounting kit, machined tie rod adjusters, Lower steering U-joint, Drivers side motor mount, lower steering shaft, and probably two cutom fitting for the rack. Now, what do you think is a fair price point. Looks like the kit would be in the 775 range. Not to far off of a complete rebuild of the factory P/S, and our rack kit cuts bumsteer to .192 deg. in 3" travel either side of RH. Well?
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Old 01-22-2011, 05:18 PM   #35
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OK guys, it's looking good so far. This kit will include a P/S rack, mounting kit, machined tie rod adjusters, Lower steering U-joint, Drivers side motor mount, lower steering shaft, and probably two cutom fitting for the rack. Now, what do you think is a fair price point. Looks like the kit would be in the 775 range. Not to far off of a complete rebuild of the factory P/S, and our rack kit cuts bumsteer to .192 deg. in 3" travel either side of RH. Well?
Standard app R&P or custom? Not bad pricing either way really.... just better in the 'big picture' if it's not a custom R&P.
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Old 01-22-2011, 05:44 PM   #36
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Let's see so for $775 ill do away with all the steering components tha tke that nice look away and that huge steering box that leaks and look ugly get to keep my stock crossmember that already was disc brakes and keep my bag set up.BUT get the modern feel of a rack and pinion? Well sir you can count me in....
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Old 01-22-2011, 10:07 PM   #37
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Here is a snag for ya what about us ls motor transplant guys I am using ece mounts....... 775.00 is a good price point for the rack..... I am in if I can get the motor mount situation solved!
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:46 PM   #38
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I am curious on the accommodation of the lsx swaps with different styles of engine perches myself?
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Old 02-03-2011, 05:25 PM   #39
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:21 PM   #40
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Re: Bolt in steering rack

Will the kit work with a sectioned crossmember?

I can't see myself spending the 775 for a R&P any time soon, but if it works with a a sectioned crossmember, it sounds like a cheaper way to have good steering and be able to lay frame.
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:15 PM   #41
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still working on it. As a plus, the guys at Painless are building a C-10 for the Power tour, and they made me promise to have one for them. So, now I have a deadline, to help spur me along.
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:28 PM   #42
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Hey Rob,

No disrespect to Nate as he's helped me out a bit and a super fellow by email, but I have CPP upper and lower tube arms, bags etc already. I'm trying to save a bit on an expensive build that has just started(or my wife will shooooot me!). Would your new drop member be compatible with other control arms?
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:37 PM   #43
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Re: Bolt in steering rack

We're not planning on competing with Porter's Dropmember. What we have in the works is a Power Rack and Pinion upgrade to the stock crossmember. As it will be a tunabe install, it should work fine with ANY aftermarket set of arms. - regardless of any wheel placement or caster changes from the arms. - - - Buy your wife a nice Valentines gift. Happy Wife = Happy Life.
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:51 PM   #44
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I here ya....you both sound like you have great integrity.....good stuff. I own a business here as well and do the same. U 2 are awesome...keep it up....you'll go along way...you too Rob.

OK...so either a change all or try the R/P with my existing K-member.

Super.....I'll watch and decide. And I will.....but she still loves me????......I hope...LOL

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ok, I have 2 questions about this set-up. Should be fine with a 6-cyl application right? and manual rack should work just fine as well, right? Thanks! $775 seems fair
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Old 02-11-2011, 04:34 PM   #46
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Hmm, never thought of that one. 6 cyl. is no problem, but we will not be offering a manual rack option - sorry. If we did, I don't think you would be happy with us, and it would end up a loose-loose. We try to avoid that as much as we can. It would be easy enough to put a p/s pump on the 6 cyl
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Old 02-11-2011, 04:45 PM   #47
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If anyones interested I did a power rack on a C10 about 8 years ago.
heres a link to it. It cost about $300 to do. You will need some good fab skills.

http://www.thehollisterroadcompany.com/rackpinion.html
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:57 PM   #48
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That link looks like lots of work and the outcome doesn't look that great. To many ifs. Im gonna wait it out till robs done then make a choice from there..thanks for the link tho.
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That link looks like lots of work and the outcome doesn't look that great. To many ifs. Im gonna wait it out till robs done then make a choice from there..thanks for the link tho.
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Its does have some ugly on it, But it was a first attempt and has been refined greatly since then. The out come was to have a truck suspension under a truck that was driven daily and not have to turn the wheel 5 turns from lock to lock. As far as looks unless I planned on having the guys over to stare at my rack for the afternoon and not the gril next stores rack then I would have done a C5 or something
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Hmm, never thought of that one. 6 cyl. is no problem, but we will not be offering a manual rack option - sorry. If we did, I don't think you would be happy with us, and it would end up a loose-loose. We try to avoid that as much as we can. It would be easy enough to put a p/s pump on the 6 cyl
I'm not so sure about that.
250 and 292 P/S brackets and pulleys are getting harder and harder to come by.
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