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Old 07-11-2019, 11:44 PM   #51
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Re: SkinnyG's '61 Apache

Do you realize that most people that have used the '88-'98 spindles have had issues with getting the correct camber?
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Old 07-11-2019, 11:53 PM   #52
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Re: SkinnyG's '61 Apache

I do realize there will be issues with getting the correct camber. It's sitting at +1 right now. I do not realize others have done this.

I do, however, have a sawzall and a welder and I'm not afraid to use them.

What I AM especially excited about, is that the front track appears to be 66" wheel-mount-to-wheel-mount, which is a very nice fit to my 65" Ford 9" axle I want to run. I'll be using a more modern offset 18" wheel with more back spacing. I think.
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Old 07-12-2019, 01:04 AM   #53
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I just went out and took all the shims out (I had 3 per mount), which put me at -0.5 camber. I don't like the level of zero potential adjustment, but -0.5 is actually my goal for a street setup, so I'm good.

I intend to pie-cut the upper ball joint part of the control arm for better movement if I should pull the trigger and air ride this truck. That should give me a bit more negative camber.

With the shims out, the wms-wms width is still a decent 65.75" wide.
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Old 07-16-2019, 12:40 AM   #54
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I fabricated some height-adjustable "legs" which I welded to the frame, so I could set the frame absolutely level. Or, at least as level as a 1961 stick-welded truck chassis is going to let me.

I removed the four forward bed mounts because the 12" chop doesn't coincide with any of the bed frame placements (I'll be drilling a couple new holes), and I cut 12" out of the frame sides (vertical cut because that's all the room I have), measured from 7" behind the cab mount.



The trailing arm crossmember pieces were cut free, as were the forward legs of the X (I mis-measured though, and had to add some metal back. By my new measurements it looks like you'd need to cut out 11.25" here, but I might be wrong); Pythagorus failed me.



I tried to heat the X to bend it to where the stubs needed to line up, but it was taking forever and in the end I just sliced them with a cutting disc and welded them back up as needed.

8" was cut off the end of the frame.

Clamped it securely, checked for square, and tacked it thoroughly. I'll weld it up when my arms and shoulders are cooperating with me again.

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Old 07-16-2019, 01:05 AM   #55
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I inquired at two different machine shops about getting the 9" axles re-drilled to Chevy 5x5 bolt pattern and hub diameter.

One shop (in business for 75 years) had no idea if it could be done.

The other shop (45 years) said worst case (having to weld the old holes closed), it would be $300 per axle. That's $600CDN, or about $450US. I can get Moser to MAKE me new axles for that.....
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Old 07-17-2019, 12:48 AM   #58
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Prepped for fishplates this evening. Lots of grinding.

And I have a full box of 5" discs. I only have 4-1/2" grinders.....
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Old 07-17-2019, 02:51 PM   #59
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Re: SkinnyG's '61 Apache

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I inquired at two different machine shops about getting the 9" axles re-drilled to Chevy 5x5 bolt pattern and hub diameter.

One shop (in business for 75 years) had no idea if it could be done.

The other shop (45 years) said worst case (having to weld the old holes closed), it would be $300 per axle. That's $600CDN, or about $450US. I can get Moser to MAKE me new axles for that.....
If you've got the access hole in the axle or they're 6 bolt you will be SOL for not having to weld. And like you said, cheaper to buy new.
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Okay. It's shortened. That was a LOT of work.















Also, my CPP 5" drop coils arrived, along with Summit Brand polyurethane bushings (re-labeled Energy Suspension? They have ES part numbers cast in the bushing....). Stock coil for comparison:



And I'm not sure what to do with this bed mount. If I attach it with the rear hole (right) and drill a new front hole (left), the bed might be too close to the cab. If I attach it with the front hole (left), the bed cross pieces might not line up. Having never done this before, I'm not sure.....

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