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Old 01-22-2010, 09:38 PM   #26
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Re: Another LSx/4L60e Swap

I am not sure but in the pic, it looks like if those mounts would had allow to use the original compressor... they almost look like the plate had the "fred" cut on them,, what you guys think?
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:50 PM   #27
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It would allow the 5.3L compressor to fit, but at the expense of not being able to re-use the stock driveshaft (i would have to be shortened), and the need to move the shift linkage frame bracket.
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Old 01-23-2010, 08:22 PM   #28
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It would allow the 5.3L compressor to fit, but at the expense of not being able to re-use the stock driveshaft (i would have to be shortened), and the need to move the shift linkage frame bracket.
thats probably what I have to do,, since I have a welder to "fred" mod the stand as you guys showed,, but since my time off is limited, It will be easier I guess,,, still thinking about it... thanks for the info,, you guys are great....
how can you guys tell the transmission you have,,, I saw somewhere that
the some have the "4l60e" staped on the.. but my have nothing but a # 58 also has the GMPP staped on it.. came from a state trooper tahoe? any one..?

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Old 01-23-2010, 08:29 PM   #29
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how can you guys tell the transmission you have,,, I saw somewhere that
the some have the "4l60e" staped on the.. but my have nothing but a # 58 .. came from a state trooper tahoe? any one..?

Here is a site that gives tranmission measurements.


The 4L80 is about 4 inches longer to the bolt flange (measurement B). Should be able to figure it out with these measurements

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Old 01-23-2010, 08:33 PM   #30
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Re: Another LSx/4L60e Swap

if i'm not mistaken, the 60's and 65's have a round cap with a clip on the passenger side where the shift servos are. someone please correct me if im wrong.
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Old 01-23-2010, 08:55 PM   #31
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Re: Another LSx/4L60e Swap

I would correct you.....








but you are right!
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got 1 right!!
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thanks... It does have the round clip.. so I guess a 60 it is.... thank you.....
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awesome build !! lots of good info . subscribing
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:04 PM   #35
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The truck had the usual rust areas, so I welded in pillars, kick panels, cab corners, outer floors and rocker panels on each side.
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:08 PM   #36
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The original harness was shot, so I replaced it with a Painless direct-fit. Many of the circuits aren't going to be used, so I have them tied uo for now. Also mounted the engine harness fuse block in the same area.
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I found a '91 Blazer cluster with electronic speedometer and got it tied into the chasis harness. All of the guages and lights work (not sure about the speedometer because I haven't tested it). I tapped the t-fitting near the oil filter and mounted a sender. Works great!
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:23 PM   #38
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I found a '91 Blazer cluster with electronic speedometer and got it tied into the chasis harness. All of the guages and lights work (not sure about the speedometer because I haven't tested it). I tapped the t-fitting near the oil filter and mounted a sender. Works great!
That T-fitting, is that where my oil cooler lines are? If so do I change that to this T-fitting or tap the oil cooler lines block?
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Old 01-25-2010, 09:40 PM   #39
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Street and Performance sells that bypass block, their are fairly reasonable on the price too (surprise surprise!!). I bet you could get a part number from a dealer too, then check at gmpartsdirect.com to see if they are cheaper.
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This is what i did, it was for my 97 tahoe so it's a different sender but you should be able to fit the older sender in there.
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My engine is from a van and just has a block off plate there. I guess I need to go look and see where my oil sender is on the 6.0 NOOK and TRANNY on ebay sells a oil sender and a one wire connector (from a 2002 F-Body) so you can hook the wire directly to your factory wiring for your pressure gauge.
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Re: Another LSx/4L60e Swap

Josh i just seen your sig!!

btw, i need one of those oil sender t's also.
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I just though I would post an FYI that the "electronic" speedos actually still need a cable drive from the transmission and the speedo it self has a signal generator for the computer (engine only during these years).

I hope that this saves you some time.

Just look at the back of the speedo yand you will see the cable fitting.
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I just though I would post an FYI that the "electronic" speedos actually still need a cable drive from the transmission and the speedo it self has a signal generator for the computer (engine only during these years).

I hope that this saves you some time.
Ummm sorry, but you are wrong.

The electric speedo we use for these swaps come from a 90-91 Blazer, Suburban or dually. They are true electric speedometers, and only require the one signal output from the PCM ran to the cluster. You must re-pin the cluster connector, but there is NO speedo cable.

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Look at the back of my cluster and you will see no cable fitting



Edit - Corrected the date.
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This is another oil pressure sender option I posted in the other thread.

Some people remove the oil pressure sending unit from the back of the engine and use a 16mm X 1.5 to 1/8NPT adapter and use that for their oil pressure line/sender. The PCM doesn't need the oil pressure sender (from what everyone tells me). I am having a T made for that location so I can have both (I believe a scanner, Tuner and things like an aeroforce gauge can read the stock sender)


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Ummm sorry, but you are wrong.

The electric speedo we use for these swaps come from a 89-91 Blazer, Suburban or dually. They are true electric speedometers, and only require the one signal output from the PCM ran to the cluster. You must re-pin the cluster connector, but there is NO speedo cable.
I believe that is a 90-91 cluster.
I have a 1989 sub that i'm parting and it has a speedo cable with an optical sensor for the computer.....I will look and see what the exact date is on the sub, maybe it was a mid year change?
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I left the 5.3's sending unit in it's original location, and drilled and tapped the bypass block and put the sender there. Why? Hell, I don't know. Cause it was funner to drill and tap something I guess?
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I believe that is a 90-91 cluster.
I have a 1989 sub that i'm parting and it has a speedo cable with an optical sensor for the computer.....I will look and see what the exact date is on the sub, maybe it was a mid year change?
DOH!!! I still have GMC grills on my mind!! Yep, 90-91 clusters. I fixed my post.
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:36 AM   #49
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soule64 - Is that a tach in the bottom left hole in your cluster? If so, what kind is it? Things are looking good!
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I left the 5.3's sending unit in it's original location, and drilled and tapped the bypass block and put the sender there. Why? Hell, I don't know. Cause it was funner to drill and tap something I guess?
May be a dumb question, but couldnt you have used the F-body (2002) sender and your factory wiring or was the location of the 5.3s sender an issue?
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