The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-03-2020, 04:45 PM   #1
71CHEVYSHORTBED402
Senior Member
 
71CHEVYSHORTBED402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 7,118
Restoring Evaporator Box

Some questions about restoring an evap. box.

The box took some over-spray long ago with black aerosol. So first order is to remove it. I know a guy who can blast it, not sure what material he uses (black something), but it's much finer than sand. Is there a better way considering these are plastic?

I know some people remove the rivets for the bracket, but I think I can away without doing that. A finish guy and I agree that he paints what's black first, then clear coat the entire unit. I think these had a satin sheen, does that sound right for a restoration?

Is there a way to remove the door flapper on these without damaging it? The flapper is still good. If he needs to paint around it OK, but I'd rather remove it cleanly if possible. Unless I'm missing something I don't think it can be removed, similar the A/C diverted flapper. Makes me wonder how they assembled them to begin with.

Thanks!

Thank you
Attached Images
 
__________________
Tony
71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring it from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s of OEM identifications and part numbers, all written in short order. 700+ images include assm, illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2020, 05:23 PM   #2
BobbyK
Registered User
 
BobbyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,Mi.
Posts: 1,769
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

I disassembled the whole thing and powder coated all the metal parts.




After the rebuild




Here's a link to my rebuild of my A/C/Heater

https://public.fotki.com/blazbk/blaz...e/?view=roll#1


.
__________________
71 blazer,350SBC,approx.375HP,700R4,factory GM TPI.Dual electric fans,33x12.5x15 ATR on stock suspension.
Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,MI.
See ALL my Blazer pic's HERE

Last edited by BobbyK; 07-05-2020 at 01:27 PM.
BobbyK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2020, 10:32 PM   #3
71CHEVYSHORTBED402
Senior Member
 
71CHEVYSHORTBED402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 7,118
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

Looks nice. How did you finish the container?
__________________
Tony
71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring it from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s of OEM identifications and part numbers, all written in short order. 700+ images include assm, illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2020, 10:41 PM   #4
BobbyK
Registered User
 
BobbyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,Mi.
Posts: 1,769
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

Sprayed it with clear-coat (aerosol)
__________________
71 blazer,350SBC,approx.375HP,700R4,factory GM TPI.Dual electric fans,33x12.5x15 ATR on stock suspension.
Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,MI.
See ALL my Blazer pic's HERE
BobbyK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2020, 11:11 PM   #5
71CHEVYSHORTBED402
Senior Member
 
71CHEVYSHORTBED402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 7,118
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

Here's some pictures of the original finish. Pretty sure these were clear coated, however, there might be another option: http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=268199

Seems to me once blasted and polished they're back to their former glory, pending a clear finish. EDIT: Just dawned on me aircraft paint remover might be a good option to take the paint off prior to blasting the unit, it
s pretty thick in places. Thought it might damage the plastic, but why would it? Think I've read oven cleaner removes paint from plastic, but don't quote me on it.
Attached Images
  
__________________
Tony
71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring it from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s of OEM identifications and part numbers, all written in short order. 700+ images include assm, illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 07-03-2020 at 11:59 PM.
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2020, 12:13 PM   #6
FirstOwner69
Senior Member
 
FirstOwner69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wisconsin & Arizona
Posts: 4,838
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

When new, the box was not clear coated or painted. It appears to be a rather fibrous fiberglass type material, so I think blasting it would alter the texture. All I did with mine is clean it thoroughly and apply ArmorAll, and it looks new. I believe I first used ArmorAll on it in the 70s and only once or twice since.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Jim

Last edited by FirstOwner69; 07-04-2020 at 01:42 PM.
FirstOwner69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2020, 02:24 PM   #7
71CHEVYSHORTBED402
Senior Member
 
71CHEVYSHORTBED402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 7,118
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

Quote:
Originally Posted by FirstOwner69 View Post
When new, the box was not clear coated or painted. It appears to be a rather fibrous fiberglass type material, so I think blasting it would alter the texture. All I did with mine is clean it thoroughly and apply ArmorAll, and it looks new. I believe I first used ArmorAll on it in the 70s and only once or twice since.
Thanks Jim, I think you nailed it, fiberglass type material. I think I'll skip the aircraft paint remover. Your point about blasting is why I'd like to remove the paint first. I can see how this comes apart for painting the rest - not doin' it

Some research shows the best method for removing paint off fiberglass is soda blasting.

Then again, there's this. I've already tried lacquer thinner. Slow, but doesn't harm. I read acetone destroys fiberglass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckW0b-x-y1A
__________________
Tony
71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring it from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s of OEM identifications and part numbers, all written in short order. 700+ images include assm, illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 07-04-2020 at 03:26 PM.
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2020, 06:18 PM   #8
71CHEVYSHORTBED402
Senior Member
 
71CHEVYSHORTBED402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 7,118
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

Think I'll give aircraft paint remover a thumbs down for these. Doesn't eat it up say, but it will etch the surface. I put a fat glob on this, left it on there 5-6 minutes, which is plenty. Oil following makes no difference. I may be able to get away with it because the paint should come off quickly - but think I'll pass. A lot of paint on the RH side.

Flapper is in real nice shape, no rust anywhere. My excuse for not dismantling it
Attached Images
 
__________________
Tony
71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring it from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s of OEM identifications and part numbers, all written in short order. 700+ images include assm, illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 07-04-2020 at 06:49 PM.
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2020, 09:11 PM   #9
BigBird05
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Cheraw
Posts: 1,305
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

If memory serves me correctly they started out with a flexible sheet of plastic on both sides and some kind of fibrous material in the middle. When put in the mold or press it was heated up for short time and came out looking like that. It just needed to have some of the flashing trimmed away. If you look at the edges you can see where they are rough and not shiny.
BigBird05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2020, 06:47 PM   #10
71CHEVYSHORTBED402
Senior Member
 
71CHEVYSHORTBED402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 7,118
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

Did some work on these today, one done, the other partially. A lot of paint on these. I remember it's not spray bomb, I used an automotive paint on it in 93 when my buddy and I R&Rd the engine. I sprayed everything in a COLD winter outdoors surprisingly it stuck well, just looked like half a job

Rubbing alcohol is good for cleaning these, but lacquer thinner is the cat's meow. I tried oven cleaner to remove the paint. 25 minutes in it may etch slightly, so I left it on short that & no harm done. Can't swear it helped though, because none came off with the hose. Once in a lacquer thinner bath however some flaked off immediately. End of the day I found lacquer thinner is the only method I know for removing paint on these, assuming you desire to save the original surface. Takes a long while, nylon brush, and light brushing with a brass where it's 2-3 coats in places.

Glad you chimed in Jim, I was taking the wrong route, these won't be blasted or clear coat.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBird05 View Post
If memory serves me correctly they started out with a flexible sheet of plastic on both sides and some kind of fibrous material in the middle. When put in the mold or press it was heated up for short time and came out looking like that. It just needed to have some of the flashing trimmed away. If you look at the edges you can see where they are rough and not shiny.
Pretty sure it's one piece fiberglass of some sort. All edges appear the same as the rest. Could be some variances.
__________________
Tony
71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring it from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s of OEM identifications and part numbers, all written in short order. 700+ images include assm, illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 07-11-2020 at 09:03 PM.
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2020, 05:03 AM   #11
Already Gone
70+ ( Old Skool Club )
 
Already Gone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada
Posts: 9,073
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

I have a new heater core waiting to go in my truck and am thinking I should pull the whole works out at the same time. Long Cold Winter home project. I'm procrastinating taking it out cause never done it but have procrastinated on doing things to my truck before and finally just going for it did it and things worked out fine.
__________________
1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4
1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package
1992 K1500 GMC Suburban

Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601

" Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility "

" The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe ..


RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021
Already Gone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2020, 12:34 PM   #12
FirstOwner69
Senior Member
 
FirstOwner69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wisconsin & Arizona
Posts: 4,838
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

Quote:
Originally Posted by Already Gone View Post
I have a new heater core waiting to go in my truck and am thinking I should pull the whole works out at the same time. Long Cold Winter home project. I'm procrastinating taking it out cause never done it but have procrastinated on doing things to my truck before and finally just going for it did it and things worked out fine.
I just finished doing this on my factory A/C equipped '69 and found these instructions very helpful.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...9&postcount=23

Suggestion... don't wait until it leaks like I did.
__________________
Jim
FirstOwner69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2020, 07:44 PM   #13
71CHEVYSHORTBED402
Senior Member
 
71CHEVYSHORTBED402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 7,118
Re: Restoring Evaporator Box

Few seconds of carelessness in my youth turned out to be 4-5 hours to clean-up. That was a job, but I got the paint off the fiberglass.

Nearly the entire RH side was painted, and real heavy in places. Pretty sure the oven cleaner helped somewhat. Other than that lacquer thinner and patience. Still have to prep the metal yet, but it will come easy. They're good without a painted finish. I ordered ROLITE FIBERGLASS POLISH. Expensive - hopefully it's the ticket.
Attached Images
   
__________________
Tony
71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring it from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s of OEM identifications and part numbers, all written in short order. 700+ images include assm, illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com