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skokie · 10-06-2004, 12:41 AM

What would be your plan of attack to repair this?
Any suggestions and ideas would be greatly appreciated.

skokie · 10-06-2004, 12:42 AM

The pics didnt come up in the order I wanted. Best to start from the bottom up.
Thanks

raphyel · 10-06-2004, 02:17 AM

If I were you, I would order the replacement pans for the bottom parts of the floor, SAVE YOURSELF SOME TIME. As for the rust in the upper parts I think it is all flat sheet metal with no patterns. Get an angle grinder and a cutoff wheel and remove as much as you need and get some 16 gauge sheetmetal and put a bend in it for the part where the floor meets the firewall. If the kich panels are bad this is a good time to cut the bottoms off of them and order replacement kick panels and weld just the bottoms on. after the bottom floors are good and the kick panels are good, then form the front floor/ firewall area and weld it in. With a mig you could have the welding all dome in a couple days. The most time you would spend would be in shaping your sheetmetal.

Alexis · 10-06-2004, 02:21 AM

nice socks!

I would also run replacement panels. Who knows what you got hiding on the other side of those panels.

Blue Beard · 10-06-2004, 06:53 AM

May sound like alot of work buy I agree, in the long run the replacement panels would be a better route.

Nixon · 10-06-2004, 08:07 PM

Spend the 104.00 to get EBFABMAN's dvd set on cab repair. I just received mine and it has already saved me making costly mistakes cutting metal that should not be cut and lots of frustration by showing how to make repro panels that don't fit, to fit. If you don't go that route, the best advice I can give on what to do is cut a little at a time until you get to healthy metal (EBFABMAN's tip) and repair only what is actually bad. The more of the original metal you can keep, the better off the repair will be. Use replacement panels to cut your patch pieces from. They are relatively cheap and are already formed to the right contours for the most part. For places that don't have patches or panels premade, buy 19 gauge metal and form is yourself or cut it from a donor cab if you can find one.

*1972C10* · 10-06-2004, 08:32 PM

If its still structually sound Id Fiberglass it Just be sure to get rid of all the rust. How i test the strenght of the rockers is put one foot on it and push down if it flexes its weak lol

chickenwing · 10-06-2004, 08:45 PM

I'm no restoration expert. But it doesn't look that bad to me. If you are plannin on investing a lot of time/money into the truck by all means cut it out and patch it up right and proper. If you just wanna drive it, I'd Por-15 it and go.

crawdad · 10-06-2004, 09:17 PM

Nixon, who is EDFABMAN, and where can you get the tapes you're talking about? I'm like chickenwing, this floor ain't bad. If ya'll want to see bad, I'll try to take some pics of the floor in my truck!

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 10-06-2004, 11:11 PM

If you want to do it right cut out all the rusted sheetmetal and replace it with patch pannel's it will last longer and you will not have to do it agian....

Nixon · 10-06-2004, 11:13 PM

EBFABMAN is a major contributor on this message board. Really knows his stuff. Look for threads he has written on and you will find a ton of good info. Also go to www.ebfabman.com . Has lots of stills taken from the dvds to get an idea of what he talks about. And has an address to send the money to. I bought them, as have other board members. All A++++ revues. Quick delivery time and very honest. The DVDs are filmed and produced by him. Low budget. Good, clear live action. The background music is a little cheesey but he show every step and you can literally take a portable DVD player and work on your truck step by step. I am saving money for panels and patches and plan on doing some of the work over the winter. He basically does what SKOKIEs truck needs from start to finish on the DVDs. There are some supports that you DON'T want to cut when you repair the floor pan and this info was invaluable. I would have hacked right through the whole thing. Well worth the $$$$. Check out the thread I started in Paint and Body entitled Patch Panel ? for EBFABMAN.

Hope this helps. I can't say enough about the DVDs.

Tynee · 10-06-2004, 11:41 PM

Repair it? Why? You can't even see the highway going by underneath yet. When you're losing stuff through the whole, then we'll talk about rust repair.HA!

*botboy* · 10-07-2004, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tynee

Repair it? Why? You can't even see the highway going by underneath yet. When you're losing stuff through the whole, then we'll talk about rust repair.HA!

Hey! STFU!

I lost a nice norelco electric razor that was sitting on the LH side of the dash in my '72, well it went flying when, late for work, I mashed the gas on my modified fuel injected gasser, the razor went flying off the dash and out the hole in the rocker, onto the freeway at about 70 and under the tire. And that was the last of it. Damnit!

skokie · 10-07-2004, 12:49 AM

Yep I think that maybe I will be getting EBFABMANs dvds here on payday. The shops around here in san jose want from 750-1200 just to do that side. I got some scrap metal that I can practice on once I buy a welder. And that brings up something else. What would be a good welding exercise to practice? Tac welding a piece to another piece? Any suggestions. It's obvious I have no clue on how to weld.

LOL

Russell · 10-07-2004, 12:55 AM

Hey, thats a clean looking floor! I sat in my 76 and the bench fell through the floor!

shuttermutt · 10-07-2004, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botboy

Hey! STFU!

I lost a nice norelco electric razor that was sitting on the LH side of the dash in my '72, well it went flying when, late for work, I mashed the gas on my modified fuel injected gasser, the razor went flying off the dash and out the hole in the rocker, onto the freeway at about 70 and under the tire. And that was the last of it. Damnit!

That is damn funny, man! That reminds me... I need to stuff new rags down in the cab corners.

68C15 · 10-07-2004, 07:15 AM

I've got your old rags. I picked them up on the way to Northern.

I think I will have to put that DVD set on my X-mas wish list. looking like the boys will get nothing this year after my list is fulfilled.

crawdad · 10-07-2004, 10:16 AM

Knock it off!! You guys are killing me!

I'm sitting here in the office reading these post, and I can't help it, I just bust out laughing. Now the boss knows I'm slipping around on the puter doing stuff I ain't suppose to.

Stryker67 · 10-07-2004, 01:37 PM

This looks pretty good compared to some I've done. Bring it to me and write me a check. I'll fix it.

skokie · 10-07-2004, 01:44 PM

Stryker67
Ir a long drive to Georgia from California.

wedgemon · 10-07-2004, 03:29 PM

I saw the same thing this past weekend on my '80!! I could see more road though.

I cleaned off the rust. Ground the edges. Painted the grinds and applied "ancillary fabric adhesive strips" (duct tape). I'll be checking the boneyards and metal shops for appropriate repair materials.

Later,

- Dave

"Honey, whens Overhaulin' gonna steal my truck????"

Nixon · 10-07-2004, 07:00 PM

Wedgemon, hate to dissapoint but most of the stuff in the boneyards is as bad or worse than what we are driving around. Have you checked the price of repair panels. They are cheap. Save yourself some time and purchase fresh metal.

For you guys that are fans of fiberglass and bondo, let me say that I just bought a truck that has this kind of work done to it and underneath it all its still rusting away. You may be inclined to say it wasn't prepped correctly and that may be true, but if you go with new metal you can't go wrong and it fixes the problem permanently.

Stryker67 · 10-08-2004, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skokie

Stryker67
Ir a long drive to Georgia from California.

Hey skokie, I'd have to agree with you. At least it would be in a Chevy!

It's even longer if your driving a FORD!

10-06-2004, 12:41 AM	#1
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10-06-2004, 02:17 AM	#3
raphyel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cranston, RI Posts: 162	Ideas on repair If I were you, I would order the replacement pans for the bottom parts of the floor, SAVE YOURSELF SOME TIME. As for the rust in the upper parts I think it is all flat sheet metal with no patterns. Get an angle grinder and a cutoff wheel and remove as much as you need and get some 16 gauge sheetmetal and put a bend in it for the part where the floor meets the firewall. If the kich panels are bad this is a good time to cut the bottoms off of them and order replacement kick panels and weld just the bottoms on. after the bottom floors are good and the kick panels are good, then form the front floor/ firewall area and weld it in. With a mig you could have the welding all dome in a couple days. The most time you would spend would be in shaping your sheetmetal.

10-06-2004, 06:53 AM	#5
Blue Beard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 8,834	May sound like alot of work buy I agree, in the long run the replacement panels would be a better route. __________________ 1970 Chev CST 2003 Harley Fatboy 1975 Chevrolet Step Van 1956 Chev Bel Air 1977 Blazer 2WD For Sale $3000.00 1978 Blazer 2WD For Sale $7000.00 1978 Silverado 2005 Monte Carlo

10-06-2004, 08:07 PM	#6
Nixon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Burnet, Texas Posts: 53	Spend the 104.00 to get EBFABMAN's dvd set on cab repair. I just received mine and it has already saved me making costly mistakes cutting metal that should not be cut and lots of frustration by showing how to make repro panels that don't fit, to fit. If you don't go that route, the best advice I can give on what to do is cut a little at a time until you get to healthy metal (EBFABMAN's tip) and repair only what is actually bad. The more of the original metal you can keep, the better off the repair will be. Use replacement panels to cut your patch pieces from. They are relatively cheap and are already formed to the right contours for the most part. For places that don't have patches or panels premade, buy 19 gauge metal and form is yourself or cut it from a donor cab if you can find one. __________________ My girlfriend caught me cheatin on her with another woman and now she's threatening to tell my wife! ____________________________________ 71 Chevy lwb Rough and Ready Baby!! Last edited by Nixon; 10-06-2004 at 08:10 PM.

10-06-2004, 08:45 PM	#8
chickenwing Lovin' Life in Miss.! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, Mississippi Posts: 1,937	I'm no restoration expert. But it doesn't look that bad to me. If you are plannin on investing a lot of time/money into the truck by all means cut it out and patch it up right and proper. If you just wanna drive it, I'd Por-15 it and go. __________________ The truck... you hear that? No really, you did hear that?!!!

10-06-2004, 12:42 AM	#2
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,300	The pics didnt come up in the order I wanted. Best to start from the bottom up. Thanks

10-06-2004, 02:21 AM	#4
Alexis Member since 2000 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Mountain View Ca / Mexico Posts: 7,879	nice socks! I would also run replacement panels. Who knows what you got hiding on the other side of those panels.

10-06-2004, 08:32 PM	#7
1972C10 Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,686	If its still structually sound Id Fiberglass it Just be sure to get rid of all the rust. How i test the strenght of the rockers is put one foot on it and push down if it flexes its weak lol

10-06-2004, 09:17 PM	#9
crawdad Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 614	Nixon, who is EDFABMAN, and where can you get the tapes you're talking about? I'm like chickenwing, this floor ain't bad. If ya'll want to see bad, I'll try to take some pics of the floor in my truck! __________________ 2012 Silverado LT 1500, 5.3, 6 speed auto '86 SWB C-10 Silverado Last edited by crawdad; 10-06-2004 at 09:23 PM.

10-06-2004, 11:11 PM	#10
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,590	If you want to do it right cut out all the rusted sheetmetal and replace it with patch pannel's it will last longer and you will not have to do it agian.... __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

10-06-2004, 11:13 PM	#11
Nixon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Burnet, Texas Posts: 53	EBFABMAN is a major contributor on this message board. Really knows his stuff. Look for threads he has written on and you will find a ton of good info. Also go to www.ebfabman.com . Has lots of stills taken from the dvds to get an idea of what he talks about. And has an address to send the money to. I bought them, as have other board members. All A++++ revues. Quick delivery time and very honest. The DVDs are filmed and produced by him. Low budget. Good, clear live action. The background music is a little cheesey but he show every step and you can literally take a portable DVD player and work on your truck step by step. I am saving money for panels and patches and plan on doing some of the work over the winter. He basically does what SKOKIEs truck needs from start to finish on the DVDs. There are some supports that you DON'T want to cut when you repair the floor pan and this info was invaluable. I would have hacked right through the whole thing. Well worth the $$$$. Check out the thread I started in Paint and Body entitled Patch Panel ? for EBFABMAN. Hope this helps. I can't say enough about the DVDs. __________________ My girlfriend caught me cheatin on her with another woman and now she's threatening to tell my wife! ____________________________________ 71 Chevy lwb Rough and Ready Baby!!

10-06-2004, 11:41 PM	#12
Tynee I miss this truck. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lexington, KY U.S.A. Posts: 2,863	Repair it? Why? You can't even see the highway going by underneath yet. When you're losing stuff through the whole, then we'll talk about rust repair.HA! __________________ '07 GMC Acadia SLT. Sweet ride. '08 Crew Cab Z-71 short bed. Really like this truck A LOT.

10-07-2004, 12:49 AM	#14
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,300	Yep I think that maybe I will be getting EBFABMANs dvds here on payday. The shops around here in san jose want from 750-1200 just to do that side. I got some scrap metal that I can practice on once I buy a welder. And that brings up something else. What would be a good welding exercise to practice? Tac welding a piece to another piece? Any suggestions. It's obvious I have no clue on how to weld. LOL __________________ RIP to my son Dylan. 5/17/2002 - 8/18/2018 If you want to know more about rare forms of pediatric cancer or if you want to help fund pediatric cancer research, please check out the website for the non-profit I started. https://slothforpedcancer.org 68 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223234

10-07-2004, 12:55 AM	#15
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Hey, thats a clean looking floor! I sat in my 76 and the bench fell through the floor! __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

10-07-2004, 07:15 AM	#17
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	I've got your old rags. I picked them up on the way to Northern. I think I will have to put that DVD set on my X-mas wish list. looking like the boys will get nothing this year after my list is fulfilled. __________________ Man rule #77...if you own a 67 stepside with a caddy 472 you will never be in danger of loosing you man card



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10-07-2004, 10:16 AM	#18
crawdad Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 614	Knock it off!! You guys are killing me! I'm sitting here in the office reading these post, and I can't help it, I just bust out laughing. Now the boss knows I'm slipping around on the puter doing stuff I ain't suppose to. __________________ 2012 Silverado LT 1500, 5.3, 6 speed auto '86 SWB C-10 Silverado

10-07-2004, 01:37 PM	#19
Stryker67 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fayetteville, Ga. Posts: 150	This looks pretty good compared to some I've done. Bring it to me and write me a check. I'll fix it. __________________ [FONT=Georgia] If nothing else, we can all serve as a bad example. We don't know what we don't know. The world needs ditch-diggers too.

10-07-2004, 01:44 PM	#20
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,300	Stryker67 Ir a long drive to Georgia from California. __________________ RIP to my son Dylan. 5/17/2002 - 8/18/2018 If you want to know more about rare forms of pediatric cancer or if you want to help fund pediatric cancer research, please check out the website for the non-profit I started. https://slothforpedcancer.org 68 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223234

10-07-2004, 03:29 PM	#21
wedgemon Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Spanish Springs, NV Posts: 1,171	I saw the same thing this past weekend on my '80!! I could see more road though. I cleaned off the rust. Ground the edges. Painted the grinds and applied "ancillary fabric adhesive strips" (duct tape). I'll be checking the boneyards and metal shops for appropriate repair materials. Later, - Dave "Honey, whens Overhaulin' gonna steal my truck????" __________________ 2003 Silverado K1500 Z71 - Arrival Blue 1973 K5 Cheyenne Blazer 350/TH350/NP203 Kids Trucks:92 K1500 Blazer 5.7/700R4 4" lift. RETIRED: 1980 Scottsdale 4x4 Founding Member: "TILT WHEEL BELLY." Club

10-07-2004, 07:00 PM	#22
Nixon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Burnet, Texas Posts: 53	Wedgemon, hate to dissapoint but most of the stuff in the boneyards is as bad or worse than what we are driving around. Have you checked the price of repair panels. They are cheap. Save yourself some time and purchase fresh metal. For you guys that are fans of fiberglass and bondo, let me say that I just bought a truck that has this kind of work done to it and underneath it all its still rusting away. You may be inclined to say it wasn't prepped correctly and that may be true, but if you go with new metal you can't go wrong and it fixes the problem permanently. __________________ My girlfriend caught me cheatin on her with another woman and now she's threatening to tell my wife! ____________________________________ 71 Chevy lwb Rough and Ready Baby!!

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