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68longhorn · 06-27-2018, 11:11 AM

Has anyone ever gotten their truck low without flipping the rear? I have a 86swb that is currently lowered with 1.25 coils cut and a leaf removed. I wanted to add spindles up front and add shackles in the rear and possibly remove another leaf. Has anyone done this? What are pro's and con's of this vs a flip kit?

bbbc10 · 06-27-2018, 05:23 PM

Cons are your ride is gona be crap...an yes you can go low without a notch if you dont haul anything or tow anything

68longhorn · 06-27-2018, 06:58 PM

How would a shackle make it ride like crap? Just curious

**Palf70Step** · 06-27-2018, 09:46 PM

With rear hangers/shackles...you'll get 4", but you'll have to trim some bed braces for clearance, at least on a fleetside, not sure about a step side. A flip is 5/6 inches depending on who you talk to.

**Palf70Step** · 06-27-2018, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 68longhorn

How would a shackle make it ride like crap? Just curious

My guess is the shocks. If you stay with stock they will be compressed more and not working at proper angles, thus left absorbing. If you go with the shorter shocks, you'll still lose ride because of the less range you'll have to damper. It will be better that the first situation, but still not as good as stock. Leaf springs are not as nearly as smooth as the 72 & earlier coils anyways.

68longhorn · 06-27-2018, 10:16 PM

Thank you. If it wasn't already lowered some i would consider a flip but right now that will lower it too much. I don't mind cutting a bed support.

For shocks I was wanting to use stock with extenders

**Palf70Step** · 06-28-2018, 07:31 AM

That should help with keeping you ride quality.

68longhorn · 06-28-2018, 08:25 AM

She has mostly original 200k mile stuff underneath, she rides a lil rough as is lol

SCOTI · 06-28-2018, 11:22 AM

Removing leafs changes the spring rate. Wheel hop is common as well as reduced cargo capacity.

68longhorn · 06-28-2018, 11:53 AM

My worn out 305 hasn't presented any wheel hop issues in the 10 years I've been driving it. Reduced load capacity was an issue before lowering it, most s10s have a higher gvw. My truck has a 5200 gvw. With one leaf out i have noticed some extra sqaut

SCOTI · 06-28-2018, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 68longhorn

My worn out 305 hasn't presented any wheel hop issues in the 10 years I've been driving it. Reduced load capacity was an issue before lowering it, most s10s have a higher gvw. My truck has a 5200 gvw. With one leaf out i have noticed some extra sqaut

Wheel hop w/removed leafs is common on acceleration & hard braking. Me personally..... I wouldn't have a truck that can't be used as a truck. I build to maintain hauling capacity.

jkk · 06-28-2018, 06:03 PM

3 in spindles with 2 in springs drop shackles in the back with shock exstenders rides like a Cadillac

fatboys69 · 06-28-2018, 08:26 PM

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3 in spindles with 2 in springs drop shackles in the back with shock exstenders rides like a Cadillac

how much drop on the rear shackles ? tire / wheel specs ? got any side shots ?
truck is very nice !!

jkk · 06-29-2018, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fatboys69

how much drop on the rear shackles ? tire / wheel specs ? got any side shots ?
truck is very nice !!

2 in shackles in the back flipped rear end no c notch stock springs 18x9 and 18x8 AR's

fatboys69 · 06-29-2018, 06:10 AM

that's so nice !!! i just picked up a low mileage 86 swb and am gonna drop it.
your stance is spot on. what size tires are you running ?

LT7A · 07-05-2018, 12:51 PM

68longhorn, I would consider doing the axle flip and then bringing it back up as much as you want it. Unless you want even more pliability in the rear springs than you have now, I'd leave that spring pack alone get spring perches welded on the other side of the axle and flip it. I'm considering this myself along with K truck spring hangers and shackle mounts as necessary to bring it back up just a little bit.

06-27-2018, 11:11 AM	#1
68longhorn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 1,123	How low without flip kit? Has anyone ever gotten their truck low without flipping the rear? I have a 86swb that is currently lowered with 1.25 coils cut and a leaf removed. I wanted to add spindles up front and add shackles in the rear and possibly remove another leaf. Has anyone done this? What are pro's and con's of this vs a flip kit? __________________ 1986 Custom Deluxe 10 1978 Caprice 2 door - sold 1937 Chevrolet 2 door sedan - project

06-27-2018, 05:23 PM	#2
bbbc10 Diggin The SquareLife Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: garland,tx Posts: 1,933	Re: How low without flip kit? Cons are your ride is gona be crap...an yes you can go low without a notch if you dont haul anything or tow anything

06-27-2018, 06:58 PM	#3
68longhorn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 1,123	Re: How low without flip kit? How would a shackle make it ride like crap? Just curious __________________ 1986 Custom Deluxe 10 1978 Caprice 2 door - sold 1937 Chevrolet 2 door sedan - project

06-27-2018, 09:46 PM	#4
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,611	Re: How low without flip kit? With rear hangers/shackles...you'll get 4", but you'll have to trim some bed braces for clearance, at least on a fleetside, not sure about a step side. A flip is 5/6 inches depending on who you talk to. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

06-27-2018, 10:16 PM	#6
68longhorn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 1,123	Re: How low without flip kit? Thank you. If it wasn't already lowered some i would consider a flip but right now that will lower it too much. I don't mind cutting a bed support. For shocks I was wanting to use stock with extenders __________________ 1986 Custom Deluxe 10 1978 Caprice 2 door - sold 1937 Chevrolet 2 door sedan - project

06-28-2018, 07:31 AM	#7
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,611	Re: How low without flip kit? That should help with keeping you ride quality. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

06-28-2018, 08:25 AM	#8
68longhorn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 1,123	Re: How low without flip kit? She has mostly original 200k mile stuff underneath, she rides a lil rough as is lol __________________ 1986 Custom Deluxe 10 1978 Caprice 2 door - sold 1937 Chevrolet 2 door sedan - project

06-28-2018, 11:22 AM	#9
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,907	Re: How low without flip kit? Removing leafs changes the spring rate. Wheel hop is common as well as reduced cargo capacity. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

06-28-2018, 11:53 AM	#10
68longhorn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 1,123	Re: How low without flip kit? My worn out 305 hasn't presented any wheel hop issues in the 10 years I've been driving it. Reduced load capacity was an issue before lowering it, most s10s have a higher gvw. My truck has a 5200 gvw. With one leaf out i have noticed some extra sqaut __________________ 1986 Custom Deluxe 10 1978 Caprice 2 door - sold 1937 Chevrolet 2 door sedan - project

06-28-2018, 06:03 PM	#12
jkk Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 423	Re: How low without flip kit? 3 in spindles with 2 in springs drop shackles in the back with shock exstenders rides like a Cadillac

06-29-2018, 06:10 AM	#15
fatboys69 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dayton, Tennessee Posts: 447	Re: How low without flip kit? that's so nice !!! i just picked up a low mileage 86 swb and am gonna drop it. your stance is spot on. what size tires are you running ?

07-05-2018, 12:51 PM	#16
LT7A Registered User Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: PNW Posts: 3,498	Re: How low without flip kit? 68longhorn, I would consider doing the axle flip and then bringing it back up as much as you want it. Unless you want even more pliability in the rear springs than you have now, I'd leave that spring pack alone get spring perches welded on the other side of the axle and flip it. I'm considering this myself along with K truck spring hangers and shackle mounts as necessary to bring it back up just a little bit.



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