modified lca's (crazy?)

[Square_78]

This mine. Drums in front. 3" cups welded into lower arms. Control arms are about 2" off the ground in this pic. I have 2" cpp modular drop spindles and brakes to install so it will lay on the ground when it's done. 215/70R15 front tires.
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[Fatkid1983]

Originally Posted by Square_78

This mine. Drums in front. 3" cups welded into lower arms. Control arms are about 2" off the ground in this pic. I have 2" cpp modular drop spindles and brakes to install so it will lay on the ground when it's done. 215/70R15 front tires.
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man!!!!!! i need to notch mine bad!!

[vegadesign]

Any backing plate issues with the spindles?
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[J & E Speed Center]

Originally Posted by vegadesign

I will eventually z the frame but its to big if a pain with a daily driver

The tires I have on it right now are 235/75r15
They are really small compared to what was on it
This is aired out in the front right now

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If your aired out in this picture something must be wrong ??? It still looks like you need a step ladder to get in the thing. Look at the next picture of the guy in the blue and white truck, that's what you should look like aired out.

[blazer2007]

You talk about safety but hacking up a-arms and re welding them ? I,d hate to see that go bad on the freeway.

[vegadesign]

Originally Posted by blazer2007

You talk about safety but hacking up a-arms and re welding them ? I,d hate to see that go bad on the freeway.

No worries, fairly old thread. I have learned a lot since I posted this. I actually run my own thing bagging cars and trucks now. Funny how that works out lol

Here what it looks like now. Only 2.5 - 3 staggered cupped lowers to keep the bag symmetrical when at ride height



Still doesn't lay rockers but the body drop will fix that

[chevy_mike]

Back 20 years ago, there was no dropped spindles for pre '72 trucks. I had bought dropped A arms from a company called SoLow Suspensions (long gone). They worked great. Now I do dropped spindles for everything.

[Popcorn W]

Funny that this old thread came up. I'm actually modifying my lower and upper control arms now, like the one in Chevy Mike's picture above.
If they work out, great. If not, all I've lost is some time, welding wire, Argon. I can throw them away and buy new arms.
I'm doing the lowers 2" with a correct angle, and the uppers also 2" to resolve ball joint binding. I don't have any pics yet because they're just tacked now but I'll update my build thread when they're closer.

[michael bustamante]

Originally Posted by vegadesign

I will eventually z the frame but its to big if a pain with a daily driver

The tires I have on it right now are 235/75r15
They are really small compared to what was on it
This is aired out in the front right now

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can i ask what wheels you are using to accept those moons?
the stock wheel?

[vegadesign]

Originally Posted by michael bustamante

can i ask what wheels you are using to accept those moons?
the stock wheel?

The stock wheels, iv been trying to find more stock steel 6 lugs and apparently they are impossible!

[Domer]

Hey Robert, you need to come by my place and check out how I'm doing the new build on my c10. I have been modifying a lot of stock stuff. I have gotten 5 1/2" of drop with out touching springs in the front. For everybody else, sorry I don't have pictures yet.. i haven't uploaded any on the computer.

[vegadesign]

Originally Posted by Domer

Hey Robert, you need to come by my place and check out how I'm doing the new build on my c10. I have been modifying a lot of stock stuff. I have gotten 5 1/2" of drop with out touching springs in the front. For everybody else, sorry I don't have pictures yet.. i haven't uploaded any on the computer.

I'm game bro, just let me know when your in town and I can swing by.

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Seriously? Your theory is why worry about being able to stop since my tires are unsafe anyway. I get it that you are not concerned with your own safety, but what about those around you? How cool are you going to be when your "tank" leaves four skid marks over some innocent child that chased a toy out in to the street in front of you? Leaving "four 20ft skid marks" is a perfect example of why you should focus on improving your braking system. Locked up brakes are NOT a sign that your system is working at maximum efficiency.

I know everyone complains about drum brakes but they can be just as good as disc at lower speeds (under ~65 mph). Tire grip is just as important as having good brakes- if the tires don't hook up then the brakes attached to the tire doesn't matter. Same as having a 600hp car that isn't hooking up and you're wanting to add more power instead of more grip to accelerate quicker...

To prove this I have a '64 VW with all factory manual, single circuit drum brakes. Only upgrade is it has wider/sticky 195 wide tires instead of the stock 165 wide tires. From 60 mph it will peak at .97g stopping, right at the limit of locking up. Even with the grippier tires I could still stab the pedal and lock up the front wheels if I wanted.

I also have an '87 Mitsubishi Starion that has 205 and 225 wide tires, and four wheel power disc brakes and rear-only ABS. Looking back at the old Auto Week tests (and others) from when the car was new, it had some of the best brakes available when tested against the other Japanese sports cars it compared to. It also has an old set of tires that were on it when I bought it that don't have a lot of grip. The best I've been able to get is .87g max; it's much harder to keep it from locking up, and its not as easy to recover after they've locked up as the VW.

We used to have a '99 New Beetle with fairly grippy 195's and four wheel discs with ABS. It would peak at .99g, only .02g better than the '64 VW with manual drums.


I'm not saying disc brakes aren't good at all- they offer less upkeep and easier to change pads compared to changing shoes. From higher speeds they do better for sure. But a good drum system with good tires can be just as good (and just as safe) from normal speeds.
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[michael bustamante]

Originally Posted by vegadesign

The stock wheels, iv been trying to find more stock steel 6 lugs and apparently they are impossible!

theres a guy here in roswell selling a set of 5 and a guy here in albuq selling one for 5$!!. youre going to have to make a road trip down i40
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