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Old 10-07-2010, 12:17 AM   #26
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Re: Manual Steering To Power Steering Project (PICS)

Before joining this site, my dad picked it up online but it looks like captainfab makes it and he is a vendor here. He posted on the top of this page...IM him and see what he can do for you, Very nice guy and helpful. The rag joint I got from Brothers in Corona California (they have a website) but again, maybe Captainfab can help you out with that as well.
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Old 10-07-2010, 05:09 PM   #27
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ahh I will have send him a IM when I get to that point. I have a brothers book and been to there site just never saw that rag joint
and now i see someone asked the same question earlier.


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Old 10-08-2010, 01:33 AM   #28
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ahh I will have send him a IM when I get to that point. I have a brothers book and been to there site just never saw that rag joint
and now i see someone asked the same question earlier.


Thanks for the info
no worries.... look forward to your pics.
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Old 10-18-2010, 06:19 PM   #29
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Almost done thanks to Captainfab and some trial/error. I just have a few more things to do and she will be done. Here is a peak at the setup.


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Old 10-18-2010, 07:27 PM   #30
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Looking good ,
It appears from the picture like the crank pulley will line up with the alternator also. It would be better if you could use a longer belt and incorporate the crank AND the water pump to run the alternator (If they do indeed all line up.)
PS> If that is a glass inline fuel filter, they can cause fires if broken or cracked/melted , A steel inline filter is less likely to cause a fire IMO.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:12 AM   #31
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Looking good ,
It appears from the picture like the crank pulley will line up with the alternator also. It would be better if you could use a longer belt and incorporate the crank AND the water pump to run the alternator (If they do indeed all line up.)
PS> If that is a glass inline fuel filter, they can cause fires if broken or cracked/melted , A steel inline filter is less likely to cause a fire IMO.
I don't think that the alt pully lines up with the crank pully but now you have me wondering...: ) I'm no mechanic but the alt should be ok running off of the water pump pully right? The fuel line is ugly and temporary but thanks for the heads up. Do the really break? I remember in the old days we always ran those filters. I hope that I am done by next weekend.
Sure looks like it does in the pic. I am going to look t it in the morning.

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Old 10-19-2010, 01:31 AM   #32
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I thought you were running a short water pump? You have a mismatch of parts there. You have the short water pump power steering pump brackets with a long water pump. Your belt for the alternator should go around the crank pulley, and the water pump pulley. The power steering pump belt should run from the crank pulley. Of course with the long water pump, the power steering pump hangs off of the water pump.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:41 AM   #33
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I thought you were running a short water pump? You have a mismatch of parts there. You have the short water pump power steering pump brackets with a long water pump. Your belt for the alternator should go around the crank pulley, and the water pump pulley. The power steering pump belt should run from the crank pulley. Of course with the long water pump, the power steering pump hangs off of the water pump.
It wasn't easy finding the parts that I did find...lol I mean, I took a couple of days off and made several trips to the auto parts store and salvage yard. At the auto parts store if you don't know the specific application, they can't help. We figured if we go with the long water pump and get the pullys for them then we would be good to go. i will look to see if I can configure the belts as you say but if I can't...will what I have work? Are you saying that the power steering should only run off of the crank pully?Thank you again for all of your help.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:55 AM   #34
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Yes the power steering pump is driven off of the crank pulley. What you have there now may work as long as the pulleys line up. But as I posted above, you have a missmatch of parts, so I can't say for sure how it's going to work.
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:07 AM   #35
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Here are a couple pics I found in the '73-'87 section that shows the arrangement somewhat. They aren't the best, I'll see if I can find some better.







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Old 10-19-2010, 09:54 AM   #36
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Good morning -
The 327 in my Chevelle uses a Bills Hot rod bracket for the power steering pump and a Bubba modified bracket for the alternator
The 327 heads here are pre-69 and have no attachment holes in the front section. Hard to see but the PS pump is driven of the front pulley on the crank.
The PS pump is standard GM but I am using a steering gear box from a 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee (Delphi/Saginaw)
The alternator attaches to the front bolt on the exhaust manifold and the Black support which is 1/4" X 2" steel flat bar forged into shape as a brace.
I see in your post you have newer style heads and can use a later year set-up using the heads for attachment.
Crank pulleys are the driving pulley and should be used if possible
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Old 10-20-2010, 01:36 AM   #37
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Yes the power steering pump is driven off of the crank pulley. What you have there now may work as long as the pulleys line up. But as I posted above, you have a missmatch of parts, so I can't say for sure how it's going to work.
Thanks for posting the pics and responding. I worked with what I had as far as the ps pump and bracket. I went back to the salvage yard and after a month the guy was willing to trade out the bracket but it is the type of yard that he brings out the part already off of a vehicle. He seemed very knowledgable and that bracket is what he gave me. It all lines up so I am hoping that it works. You have been a great help and I respect your input. I am going to change the belt configuration to what you recommended though.

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Good morning -
The 327 in my Chevelle uses a Bills Hot rod bracket for the power steering pump and a Bubba modified bracket for the alternator
The 327 heads here are pre-69 and have no attachment holes in the front section. Hard to see but the PS pump is driven of the front pulley on the crank.
The PS pump is standard GM but I am using a steering gear box from a 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee (Delphi/Saginaw)
The alternator attaches to the front bolt on the exhaust manifold and the Black support which is 1/4" X 2" steel flat bar forged into shape as a brace.
I see in your post you have newer style heads and can use a later year set-up using the heads for attachment.
Crank pulleys are the driving pulley and should be used if possible
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Thanks for the post...I think I can use the belts in this configuration, I checked it this morning before I left for work.
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:29 PM   #38
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Update. I got everything mounted and filled the pump with fluid a couple of weeks ago and wouldn't you know it...the darn thing leaked. Today I bought a new pump, mounted, filled it, and it is good to go. I don't trust my welds so I need to have them looked at before i drive it any distance. Watch for my suspension thread coming soon. Not sure if I want to start it now or wait until after the So. Cal. get together. I'll post Pics tomorrow.

Pics and a video. The crank pully appears to be wobbling a little.






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