Sttering box options, where did all the threads go? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Tom · 12-14-2018, 03:25 PM

I know we've talked about this several times, and I've been trying to search for the threads with no luck and I can't figure out why. Anywho, I need a new box for my 1998. I know people have talked about the jeep box for a quick ratio upgrade, but I'm pretty sure that only applies to like 88-94's due to something with the steering shaft.

I just want a tight, leak free box for my truck. Don't need fancy, don't need upgraded anything. If I could buy a brand new oem box I would, but that's not a thing. These mass produced rebuilds just slap new seals in as you cannot buy new gears to replace worns out ones inside the box. I don't want to deal with that crap, I'm tired of swapping boxes to find a good one. My original was great but started leaking like crazy, just want to get back to that box's feel.

**Palf70Step** · 12-14-2018, 09:56 PM

I wish I knew. Never had any steering box issues on my 92, 94 or 96. The 94 had almost 300K and the 96 had 200K when I got rid of them. I do know what you mean about some of these remanufactured parts, they just don't do it. Hope you can find a solution.

**hatzie** · 12-15-2018, 03:28 AM

If you hung onto the old box... re-seal it and go.

sntrym95 · 12-15-2018, 12:39 PM

Try Red Head Steering https://redheadsteeringgears.com. Not cheap but I've heard good things, and I have one in my garage waiting to go into my Yukon.

The Jeep upgrade is a shaft upgrade to eliminate slop from the rag joint. I also have one of those ready to go when I get around to it.

Kudzupatch · 12-16-2018, 03:13 PM

Just went through this. The Jeep bolt holes were different than my 1993 despite everything I read. Not sure why, if I had the wrong jeep model or something else.
I gave in and spent the money on a Red Head and glad I did. I went with a quick ratio, replaced the rag joint and it is like brand new. ZERO play.

Stormin08 · 12-17-2018, 09:45 AM

always have BLUETOP aswell, i believe it is a nephew of redhead that started his own after working for redtop.

4x4k30 · 12-17-2018, 12:41 PM

I have done put on 4 different steering gears on my 77 k3500 and have another one to put on and try. I will tell you its hell to put one on by ur self .I bought my gears from napa and I have one on my 79 with 38s on it .it works perfect can turn it with one finger . I called the place that rebuild these for napa bbb industry and they seem not to care about the problems with the gears. so all you can do is put them on and see ifs its good or not

Tom · 12-17-2018, 04:31 PM

From what I remember the steering shaft on later OBS's like my 98 is different and has no rag joint, so the jeep column swap doesn't work. Same reason redhead doesn't list a box for after 94 trucks, but even they can't tell me why when I emailed and asked them. Very frustrating.

Ski-me · 12-17-2018, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sntrym95

Try Red Head Steering https://redheadsteeringgears.com. Not cheap but I've heard good things, and I have one in my garage waiting to go into my Yukon.

The Jeep upgrade is a shaft upgrade to eliminate slop from the rag joint. I also have one of those ready to go when I get around to it.

I put a Redhead in my 04' Yukon xl....still going strong after a few years.

12-14-2018, 03:25 PM	#1
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,690	Steering box options, where did all the threads go? I know we've talked about this several times, and I've been trying to search for the threads with no luck and I can't figure out why. Anywho, I need a new box for my 1998. I know people have talked about the jeep box for a quick ratio upgrade, but I'm pretty sure that only applies to like 88-94's due to something with the steering shaft. I just want a tight, leak free box for my truck. Don't need fancy, don't need upgraded anything. If I could buy a brand new oem box I would, but that's not a thing. These mass produced rebuilds just slap new seals in as you cannot buy new gears to replace worns out ones inside the box. I don't want to deal with that crap, I'm tired of swapping boxes to find a good one. My original was great but started leaking like crazy, just want to get back to that box's feel. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me. Last edited by Tom; 12-14-2018 at 05:06 PM.

12-14-2018, 09:56 PM	#2
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,611	Re: Sttering box options, where did all the threads go? I wish I knew. Never had any steering box issues on my 92, 94 or 96. The 94 had almost 300K and the 96 had 200K when I got rid of them. I do know what you mean about some of these remanufactured parts, they just don't do it. Hope you can find a solution. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

12-15-2018, 03:28 AM	#3
hatzie Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wentworth, NH Posts: 4,912	Re: Sttering box options, where did all the threads go? If you hung onto the old box... re-seal it and go. __________________ 1959 M35A2 LDT465-1D SOLD 1967 Dodge W200 B383, NP420/NP201 SOLD 1969 Dodge Polara 500 B383, A833 SOLD 1972 Ford F250 FE390, NP435/NP205 SOLD 1976 Chevy K20, 6.5L, NV4500/NP208 SOLD 1986 M1008 CUCV SOLD 2000 GMC C2500, TD6.5L, NV4500 2005 Chevy Silverado LS 2500HD 6.0L 4L80E/NP263 2009 Impala SS LS4 V8 RTFM... GM Parts Books, GM Schematics, GM service manuals, and GM training materials... 1973-1991 GM Light Truck Service, Unit/Overhaul, Wiring Manuals, Parts Books and Some 1968-1999 GM Service Training textbooks in PDF 1988-1998 GMT400 CK service manual project 1988-1993 GMT400 CK parts books. 1967-1972 GM Light, Medium, & Heavy Truck Service Manuals in PDF Please include at least the year and model in your threads. It'll be easier to answer your questions. And please let us know if and how your repairs were successful.

12-15-2018, 12:39 PM	#4
sntrym95 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Big Pine Key, FL Posts: 745	Re: Sttering box options, where did all the threads go? Try Red Head Steering https://redheadsteeringgears.com. Not cheap but I've heard good things, and I have one in my garage waiting to go into my Yukon. The Jeep upgrade is a shaft upgrade to eliminate slop from the rag joint. I also have one of those ready to go when I get around to it. __________________ Mike

12-16-2018, 03:13 PM	#5
Kudzupatch Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: GUNTERSVILLE Posts: 621	Re: Sttering box options, where did all the threads go? Just went through this. The Jeep bolt holes were different than my 1993 despite everything I read. Not sure why, if I had the wrong jeep model or something else. I gave in and spent the money on a Red Head and glad I did. I went with a quick ratio, replaced the rag joint and it is like brand new. ZERO play.

12-17-2018, 09:45 AM	#6
Stormin08 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Moss Bluff, LA Posts: 381	Re: Sttering box options, where did all the threads go? always have BLUETOP aswell, i believe it is a nephew of redhead that started his own after working for redtop.

12-17-2018, 12:41 PM	#7
4x4k30 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: ga Posts: 630	Re: Sttering box options, where did all the threads go? I have done put on 4 different steering gears on my 77 k3500 and have another one to put on and try. I will tell you its hell to put one on by ur self .I bought my gears from napa and I have one on my 79 with 38s on it .it works perfect can turn it with one finger . I called the place that rebuild these for napa bbb industry and they seem not to care about the problems with the gears. so all you can do is put them on and see ifs its good or not __________________ 4x4k30 if trouble was money i would have plenty

12-17-2018, 04:31 PM	#8
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,690	Re: Sttering box options, where did all the threads go? From what I remember the steering shaft on later OBS's like my 98 is different and has no rag joint, so the jeep column swap doesn't work. Same reason redhead doesn't list a box for after 94 trucks, but even they can't tell me why when I emailed and asked them. Very frustrating. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.



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