BATTERY CABLE END - Which one is correct for a 70 350 ?

[Steve Hafner]

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After asking SEVERAL people on this website who have low milage, original trucks, what is the correct type of end for the battery cable on a 70 C-10 350 - I've been told spring ring by some and the bolt type by others !!!

I haven't seen the assembly manual picture of what was "supposed" to be on these trucks either. Maybe someone can post that page on here. I have saved many pictures of BOTH types on very original looking engines too.

Can anybody help clear this up for me, with some PROOF ?

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[Joesjunk]

Steve, as we talked before, I don't believe the spring type were used on these trucks. I believe these are the factory original ones on my 70 GMC

[FirstOwner69]

I'm 100% sure these are the originals from my 69. There's no reason to think the 70s were different since 1971 was first year for side terminals. Positive is top photo. Negative is bottom. They look the same as Joe's.

[cericd]

Joe and Firstowner, do they repro those? I've never seen ones exactly like that. Do they have a bolt on the bottom like in the first pic of the original post?

[Joesjunk]

No bolt on the bottom

[FirstOwner69]

I don't believe they reproduce any that are a correct match. As I recall, davepl was looking for some. I don't know what he ended up doing.

[cericd]

I don't mean to thread jack but since we're on the subject of batteries and correctness, Would either of you two original truck owners be able to post pictures that clearly show the original paths and connection points of the battery cables? I have a 1970 C/10 with a 307 which needs new cables and terminals. I haven't been able to locate a clear photo. Also, can anyone tell me the correct length and gauge of cable? Here's a pic of what's on the truck now.

[FirstOwner69]

Originally Posted by cericd

I don't mean to thread jack but since we're on the subject of batteries and correctness, Would either of you two original truck owners be able to post pictures that clearly show the original paths and connection points of the battery cables? I have a 1970 C/10 with a 307 which needs new cables and terminals. I haven't been able to locate a clear photo. Also, can anyone tell me the correct length and gauge of cable? Here's a pic of what's on the truck now.

Below are pictures from the teardown of my 69 with 350 and A/C. I imagine the actual routing may vary without A/C. The original battery orientation was with the posts toward the core support, the positive post toward the passenger fender and the fusible link to the junction box on the right fender. A thread I read a couple years ago said the V8s used 4 gauge cables and the 6s used 6 gauge cables. However, my 350 came from the factory with 6 gauge. The original positive cable measures a hair over 54". The negative measures 21". I replaced mine with 4 gauge 20" and 56" long.

The negative cable (partially obscured by the battery strap in the first pic) is routed through a loop on the front A/C bracket to the front exhaust manifold bolt.

The positive cable (all other pics) is routed through a loop on the frame, through 2 clips on the oil pan bolts on each side of the engine mounts then to the starter. The last pic is of the starter end of the cable.

[burb71]

Im pretty sure board member RogerKoop makes reproduction Cables for our Trucks
just do a board search it will come up

[Steve Hafner]

Originally Posted by burb71

Im pretty sure board member RogerKoop makes reproduction Cables for our Trucks
just do a board search it will come up

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Those are the other, spring ring type:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625474

[Steve Hafner]

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I've been searching the internet and can't find anything close to the originals . . .

. . . even the NOS ones for other Chevys on eBay aren't an exact match.

I guess there isn't much call for the " right ones " for us truck people.

Somebody would reproduce them, if they thought they could sell them !!!

[Spartan]

69 c20 battery terminal. other has been changed out but this one is og.

if anybody finds a bunch of nos or exact repops I'd be on board. My K20 needs these.

[Steve Hafner]

Originally Posted by Joesjunk

Steve, as we talked before, I don't believe the spring type were used on these trucks. I believe these are the factory original ones on my 70 GMC

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I wasn't doubting you, Joe. With all the original ones you've seen, YOU should know, LOL . . . I just wanted to see if anybody had some old pictures or other proof of the spring-ring ends installed on any of these trucks from the factory. Maybe some more people will put their two cents in and also tell us where we can get some cables similar to these !!!

[Joesjunk]

Originally Posted by Steve Hafner

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I wasn't doubting you, Joe. With all the original ones you've seen, YOU should know, LOL . . . I just wanted to see if anybody had some old pictures or other proof of the spring-ring ends installed on any of these trucks from the factory. Maybe some more people will put their two cents in and also tell us where we can get some cables similar to these !!!

Oh no worries Steve, I was just offering that info again for you. Good luck on the cable search

[FirstOwner69]

Below are pictures that compare the best I could find with my originals. They are excellent quality, reasonably priced and made in the USA. If someone comes up with a source for originals, I'd be interested.

[FirstOwner69]

In post 8 I posted a picture of the clips attached with oil pan bolts that hold the positive cable in place. Here is a source for the clips.

http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...rts/c2555.html

[leddzepp]

Fwiw I have come across hundreds of these trucks over the years and have never seen the spring type used. Not saying they weren't used, maybe different plants had different suppliers? Might want to ask Keith Seymore.

[Steve Hafner]

Originally Posted by leddzepp

Fwiw I have come across hundreds of these trucks over the years and have never seen the spring type used. Not saying they weren't used, maybe different plants had different suppliers? Might want to ask Keith Seymore.

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I sent Keith a personal message - hopefully, he'll have time to tell us his thoughts on this subject !!!

I ordered a set of the Deka cables, FirstOwner69 recommended - I'll try to remember to tell you all what I think of them when I get them on my truck.

[Keith Seymore]

Thanks for the note; unfortunately I didn't start with GM until 1979 so I have no first hand experience with these particular cables.

There could be supplier differences and/or plant to plant variation, but at this point I'd have to defer to some of the more experienced vehicle owners like Joe and Firstowner.

K

[Steve Hafner]

Originally Posted by FirstOwner69

Below are pictures that compare the best I could find with my originals. They are excellent quality, reasonably priced and made in the USA. If someone comes up with a source for originals, I'd be interested.

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I FINALLY installed these Deka cables on my batteries ( it only took a YEAR, LOL )

They match pretty close to the originals that are shown in the above pictures:

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