58-59 front wheel differences - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

dsraven · 11-18-2016, 07:22 PM

seen a 58-59 gmc (4 eyed version) that was parked for some time. there was no box but the cab and front end was intact and complete. it was a regular sized front end like a 1/2 ton (not wide fendered version) but had large diameter hole in the middle of the wheel on the front. anybody seen that before? I have a 3/4 ton but the wheels are just regular 8 bolt wheels. these looked like a current one ton dually would have but it only had single wheels out back. did they make single wheel one ton trucks in 57?

_Ogre · 11-19-2016, 12:44 PM

according to the fam: all 1 ton trucks had single wheels like your 3/4 ton
dual wheels didn't come into use until 4000 series

though the railroad typically used bud style wheels on pickups to get traction on highrailer vehicles

dsraven · 11-19-2016, 02:06 PM

thanks ogre, must be a 1 ton then. good shape body wise (from the road). maybe ill see if it's for sale and try sneaking it home when the wife is shoe shopping or something, haha.
just out of curiousity, do you know if the 4 eyed trucks are wider between the front fender wheel openings than the earlier trucks? it seems like the front fenders flare out some in comparison. maybe it is just a visual thing. the fenders have that extra bump out in front of the wheels that the others don't. probably the same actual width though from a birds eye view, eh?

mr48chev · 11-19-2016, 02:31 PM

58/59 `1 tons could be had with either single or dual rear wheels as any other year of 1 ton could.
https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/doc...hevrolet-Truck.

Scroll down a bit.

dsraven · 11-19-2016, 02:58 PM

thanks fellas, I didn't get the link to work but i will try just googling the heritage centre and see what happens. maybe get the fender to fender dimensions there for the 4 eyed trucks too.

_Ogre · 11-19-2016, 08:59 PM

fender to fender is the same as the lesser 2 eyed trucks

same doors and bumper, the hood is narrower to make up for the additional fender width

dwcsr · 11-20-2016, 11:16 AM

GM did some odd things with wheels in that series trucks. 3600 and 3800 could have had single rear wheels or dual rear wheels. 3600 dually was rare but I have seen them. 3800 could have had single rear wheel on a dual rear wheel axle and the spoke type wheels. I run into this with the brake kits we make.

Civil defense, forest service and other rough service trucks could have had single rear wheel on a dually axle and the big 5 lug or 8 lug wheel

11-18-2016, 07:22 PM	#1
dsraven Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: calgary alberta Posts: 7,828	58-59 front wheel differences seen a 58-59 gmc (4 eyed version) that was parked for some time. there was no box but the cab and front end was intact and complete. it was a regular sized front end like a 1/2 ton (not wide fendered version) but had large diameter hole in the middle of the wheel on the front. anybody seen that before? I have a 3/4 ton but the wheels are just regular 8 bolt wheels. these looked like a current one ton dually would have but it only had single wheels out back. did they make single wheel one ton trucks in 57?

11-19-2016, 12:44 PM	#2
_Ogre Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Motown Posts: 7,667	Re: 58-59 front wheel differences according to the fam: all 1 ton trucks had single wheels like your 3/4 ton dual wheels didn't come into use until 4000 series though the railroad typically used bud style wheels on pickups to get traction on highrailer vehicles __________________ cool, an ogre smiley Ogre's 58 Truk build how to put your truck year and build thread into your signature shop air compressor timer

11-19-2016, 02:06 PM	#3
dsraven Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: calgary alberta Posts: 7,828	Re: 58-59 front wheel differences thanks ogre, must be a 1 ton then. good shape body wise (from the road). maybe ill see if it's for sale and try sneaking it home when the wife is shoe shopping or something, haha. just out of curiousity, do you know if the 4 eyed trucks are wider between the front fender wheel openings than the earlier trucks? it seems like the front fenders flare out some in comparison. maybe it is just a visual thing. the fenders have that extra bump out in front of the wheels that the others don't. probably the same actual width though from a birds eye view, eh?

11-19-2016, 02:31 PM	#4
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,286	Re: 58-59 front wheel differences 58/59 `1 tons could be had with either single or dual rear wheels as any other year of 1 ton could. https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/doc...hevrolet-Truck. Scroll down a bit. __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

11-19-2016, 02:58 PM	#5
dsraven Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: calgary alberta Posts: 7,828	Re: 58-59 front wheel differences thanks fellas, I didn't get the link to work but i will try just googling the heritage centre and see what happens. maybe get the fender to fender dimensions there for the 4 eyed trucks too.

11-19-2016, 08:59 PM	#6
_Ogre Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Motown Posts: 7,667	Re: 58-59 front wheel differences fender to fender is the same as the lesser 2 eyed trucks same doors and bumper, the hood is narrower to make up for the additional fender width __________________ cool, an ogre smiley Ogre's 58 Truk build how to put your truck year and build thread into your signature shop air compressor timer

11-20-2016, 11:16 AM	#7
dwcsr Hollister Road Co. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 6,134	Re: 58-59 front wheel differences GM did some odd things with wheels in that series trucks. 3600 and 3800 could have had single rear wheels or dual rear wheels. 3600 dually was rare but I have seen them. 3800 could have had single rear wheel on a dual rear wheel axle and the spoke type wheels. I run into this with the brake kits we make. Civil defense, forest service and other rough service trucks could have had single rear wheel on a dually axle and the big 5 lug or 8 lug wheel



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