What clutch parts will I need and from where??? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

LDO · 10-25-2015, 02:01 PM

Working on the wife's 57 and I would like to convert it to a manual transmission.

What pedals and linkages will i need? Is there something that mounts on the frame rail for the zbar linkage?

Anyone know where to source these parts?

Any help in this conversion will be greatly appreciated!

If you have some pictures, that would be great!

Coupeguy2001 · 10-25-2015, 06:01 PM

Robert, there is no Z bar. that is chevy car tech.
The truck just has a clutch arm that goes to a rod with a ring on it, to the clutch fork arm that pulls the clutch.
The pedal bolts onto the pedal arm.

Fork arms come in two flavors, long and short.
Short are 58+59 with a pressed divot that prevents the ring rod from migrating off the wear area.
The fork arms are hardened only in the wear area.

LDO · 10-25-2015, 06:12 PM

Coupe guy,
any pictures or ideas of where I can source these parts? I already placed an ad in the want to buy section...

My 66 c10 has a z bar so I figured (hoped) it would be that easy..

mr48chev · 10-25-2015, 10:25 PM

Hopefully someone who has pulled and saved the pieces while switching over to an automatic saved them and sends you a pm as it seems guys are always changing over to automatics in those trucks.

55dude · 10-26-2015, 01:28 AM

a reproduction service manual will show all the parts you need!

LDO · 10-26-2015, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 55dude

a reproduction service manual will show all the parts you need!

thanks,
I'll look for one of those too.

OrrieG · 10-26-2015, 02:37 PM

Here is the clutch linkage from the Factory Assembly Manual, best $30 you will spend. Does it have an auto now? you will need to locate a truck bellhousing with the motor mounts too.

LDO · 10-26-2015, 03:26 PM

Thanks Orrie G,
it has an automatic in it and i believe it was a factory automatic so it has NOTHING that is in that pic.

sleepindawg · 10-26-2015, 06:23 PM

I do have a truck bell housing (one starter bolt hole broke out), long style clutch fork, adjustment rod and the other rod.
I'll see if I can get some pics...

Tim

LDO · 10-26-2015, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepindawg

I do have a truck bell housing (one starter bolt hole broke out), long style clutch fork, adjustment rod and the other rod.
I'll see if I can get some pics...

Tim

Thank you sir! PM on the way.

58CameoAZ · 10-26-2015, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LDO

Thank you sir! PM on the way.

I Believe i have the stock brackets and even the cast piece the factory rivets
on to the frame that Orrie has the pictures on.
if you would be interested let me know and i will go up in the garage attic to check.
Allen

LDO · 10-27-2015, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58CameoAZ

I Believe i have the stock brackets and even the cast piece the factory rivets
on to the frame that Orrie has the pictures on.
if you would be interested let me know and i will go up in the garage attic to check.
Allen

Thanks and yes I would be interested.

sleepindawg · 10-27-2015, 03:04 PM

LDO, hopefully someone will chime in here. I don't know if the sixes (235/261) take the same housing as the v-8's. What engine is in your '57?
Tim

LDO · 10-27-2015, 03:50 PM

it is a SBC.

55dude · 10-30-2015, 03:45 AM

the six cylinder bellhousings pre 1962 are different than sbc.

OrrieG · 10-30-2015, 12:48 PM

V8 and six bellhousings are different 55-59. I also believe truck and auto bellhousings are different, cannot remember if it is the crossmember mounting configuration/angle or center hole that is different. If you are using a later model transmission with mount then you can use a more modern bellhousing, which will be aluminum vs cast iron. You do not need to remove, and I recommend not removing, the bellhousing crossmember. It is a tension link that keeps the frame from spreading at the front rear spring perches and cab mounts. Lots of guys remove them, and probably not a really big deal on street or parking lot driven trucks. Some have also replaced them with a smaller removable tube section.

ptc · 10-30-2015, 01:05 PM

these are aftermarket repops I found on the linkage kits. I dont know what the differecnes are between the two part numbers but they are both avail thru Summit.

Goodmark 4020951671S and 4020951672S

Coupeguy2001 · 11-04-2015, 12:47 PM

LDO, do you have a bolt-in trans crossmember?

LDO · 11-04-2015, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Coupeguy2001

LDO, do you have a bolt-in trans crossmember?

yes i do.

LDO · 11-05-2015, 11:26 AM

Anyone know what a fair price would be for the clutch pedal, linkages and the frame bracket?

58CameoAZ · 11-05-2015, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LDO

Anyone know what a fair price would be for the clutch pedal, linkages and the frame bracket?

Hey Bob,
I will send you the Clutch pedal i had found N/C,just pay shipping
if you want it. Still looking for the mysterious missing parts i know
i have somewhere that grew legs and walked off

I have worked two jobs and will be free to continue to look for you this Friday night and will let you know if they turn up. Hate it when i know i have them
and CAN'T Find Them, Really Sorry!
Allen

OrrieG · 11-05-2015, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptc

these are aftermarket repops I found on the linkage kits. I dont know what the differecnes are between the two part numbers but they are both avail thru Summit.

Goodmark 4020951671S and 4020951672S

I have been getting the stuff to convert my Chevelle to manual trans. Doing that research I found that a lot of the aftermarket Z bar and linkage were poor quality over time and ended up getting a factory setup. With everyone converting to auto transmission, you should be able for find one.

LDO · 11-05-2015, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58CameoAZ

Hey Bob,
I will send you the Clutch pedal i had found N/C,just pay shipping
if you want it. Still looking for the mysterious missing parts i know
i have somewhere that grew legs and walked off

I have worked two jobs and will be free to continue to look for you this Friday night and will let you know if they turn up. Hate it when i know i have them
and CAN'T Find Them, Really Sorry!
Allen

Thanks Allen, I appreciate the effort. Standing by, hope you find it. Ask the wife, mine always seems to know where all my stuff is! LOL

LDO · 11-18-2015, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58CameoAZ

Hey Bob,
I will send you the Clutch pedal i had found N/C,just pay shipping
if you want it. Still looking for the mysterious missing parts i know
i have somewhere that grew legs and walked off

I have worked two jobs and will be free to continue to look for you this Friday night and will let you know if they turn up. Hate it when i know i have them
and CAN'T Find Them, Really Sorry!
Allen

Allen,
any luck?

LDO · 02-06-2018, 08:50 PM

Still looking for this stuff..

10-25-2015, 02:01 PM	#1
LDO Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Senatobia, MS Posts: 1,290	What clutch parts will I need and from where??? Working on the wife's 57 and I would like to convert it to a manual transmission. What pedals and linkages will i need? Is there something that mounts on the frame rail for the zbar linkage? Anyone know where to source these parts? Any help in this conversion will be greatly appreciated! If you have some pictures, that would be great! __________________ Once a Marine, always a Marine! My (Her) 57 Build "Beverly" My 66 Build "Betty" My 85 C10 "Old Blue" Help Me Find "Old Blue" OLD BLUE PART II Last edited by LDO; 10-25-2015 at 02:35 PM.

10-25-2015, 06:01 PM	#2
Coupeguy2001 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: phoenix az Posts: 723	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? Robert, there is no Z bar. that is chevy car tech. The truck just has a clutch arm that goes to a rod with a ring on it, to the clutch fork arm that pulls the clutch. The pedal bolts onto the pedal arm. Fork arms come in two flavors, long and short. Short are 58+59 with a pressed divot that prevents the ring rod from migrating off the wear area. The fork arms are hardened only in the wear area. __________________ http://http://67-72chevytrucks.com/v...d.php?t=489721

10-25-2015, 06:12 PM	#3
LDO Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Senatobia, MS Posts: 1,290	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? Coupe guy, any pictures or ideas of where I can source these parts? I already placed an ad in the want to buy section... My 66 c10 has a z bar so I figured (hoped) it would be that easy.. __________________ Once a Marine, always a Marine! My (Her) 57 Build "Beverly" My 66 Build "Betty" My 85 C10 "Old Blue" Help Me Find "Old Blue" OLD BLUE PART II

10-25-2015, 10:25 PM	#4
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,279	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? Hopefully someone who has pulled and saved the pieces while switching over to an automatic saved them and sends you a pm as it seems guys are always changing over to automatics in those trucks. __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

10-26-2015, 01:28 AM	#5
55dude Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: tacoma wa. Posts: 1,037	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? a reproduction service manual will show all the parts you need!

10-26-2015, 03:26 PM	#8
LDO Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Senatobia, MS Posts: 1,290	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? Thanks Orrie G, it has an automatic in it and i believe it was a factory automatic so it has NOTHING that is in that pic. __________________ Once a Marine, always a Marine! My (Her) 57 Build "Beverly" My 66 Build "Betty" My 85 C10 "Old Blue" Help Me Find "Old Blue" OLD BLUE PART II

10-26-2015, 06:23 PM	#9
sleepindawg Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Topeka Kansas Posts: 49	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? I do have a truck bell housing (one starter bolt hole broke out), long style clutch fork, adjustment rod and the other rod. I'll see if I can get some pics... Tim

10-27-2015, 03:04 PM	#13
sleepindawg Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Topeka Kansas Posts: 49	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? LDO, hopefully someone will chime in here. I don't know if the sixes (235/261) take the same housing as the v-8's. What engine is in your '57? Tim

10-27-2015, 03:50 PM	#14
LDO Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Senatobia, MS Posts: 1,290	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? it is a SBC. __________________ Once a Marine, always a Marine! My (Her) 57 Build "Beverly" My 66 Build "Betty" My 85 C10 "Old Blue" Help Me Find "Old Blue" OLD BLUE PART II

10-30-2015, 03:45 AM	#15
55dude Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: tacoma wa. Posts: 1,037	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? the six cylinder bellhousings pre 1962 are different than sbc.

10-30-2015, 12:48 PM	#16
OrrieG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 8,800	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? V8 and six bellhousings are different 55-59. I also believe truck and auto bellhousings are different, cannot remember if it is the crossmember mounting configuration/angle or center hole that is different. If you are using a later model transmission with mount then you can use a more modern bellhousing, which will be aluminum vs cast iron. You do not need to remove, and I recommend not removing, the bellhousing crossmember. It is a tension link that keeps the frame from spreading at the front rear spring perches and cab mounts. Lots of guys remove them, and probably not a really big deal on street or parking lot driven trucks. Some have also replaced them with a smaller removable tube section. __________________ 1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread 1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver) Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project

10-30-2015, 01:05 PM	#17
ptc Registered User Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Morada, CA --- (Near Lodi) Posts: 1,443	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? these are aftermarket repops I found on the linkage kits. I dont know what the differecnes are between the two part numbers but they are both avail thru Summit. Goodmark 4020951671S and 4020951672S __________________ My Build: 57 Chevy Pro-Street

11-04-2015, 12:47 PM	#18
Coupeguy2001 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: phoenix az Posts: 723	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? LDO, do you have a bolt-in trans crossmember? __________________ http://http://67-72chevytrucks.com/v...d.php?t=489721

11-05-2015, 11:26 AM	#20
LDO Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Senatobia, MS Posts: 1,290	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? Anyone know what a fair price would be for the clutch pedal, linkages and the frame bracket? __________________ Once a Marine, always a Marine! My (Her) 57 Build "Beverly" My 66 Build "Betty" My 85 C10 "Old Blue" Help Me Find "Old Blue" OLD BLUE PART II

02-06-2018, 08:50 PM	#25
LDO Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Senatobia, MS Posts: 1,290	Re: What clutch parts will I need and from where??? Still looking for this stuff.. __________________ Once a Marine, always a Marine! My (Her) 57 Build "Beverly" My 66 Build "Betty" My 85 C10 "Old Blue" Help Me Find "Old Blue" OLD BLUE PART II



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