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Old 07-13-2016, 09:30 AM   #651
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Old 09-15-2016, 05:28 PM   #652
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Hello all, making my first post. This truck is a 1960 K10, photographed in the early 90s. I just acquired it after a 30 wait from my Brother who left it for dead...with a broken front axle housing, after losing the left front tie rod end while driving. Tomorrow, I am picking up another 1960 K10 to use for parts to rescue the one seen. It has to be fate. The donor is in bad shape, mine not much better. These front axle housings, DANA 44-5F are rare indeed. Norwood, Ohio plant. The primer black truck is also a 1960 K10, but has allot of issues. The original rear axle is gone, wrong hood, sunroof added, etc. I will use it to get the family heirloom going again. I love these trucks!

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Old 09-15-2016, 07:59 PM   #653
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good truck to start with--- one with a PAST. I like it still has a gun rack as well. Mine also still has one.
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:23 PM   #654
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Nothing like a vintage K series. Keep us posted, very interesting.
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:03 AM   #655
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Thanks, here is a shot of what caused it to sit in my Dads woods for the last 30 years. The truck lives in Illinois, my home state. I live in N Cal, where I found the other K10 I am picking up tomorrow. I will get the donor truck ready to ship back to Il, to get it OLD BLUE back on its feet so to speak, then ship OLD BLUE here back to me, to start the restoration. Allot of logistics involved, but I really want to fix this truck. I know the entire history of the tartan turquoise truck. It was purchase new by a rural U.S. Mail carrier in central Illinois, who used it for many years delivering mail, then my cousin, Jerry Martin, a prison guard in central Illinois, bought it from him, and used it as his hunting truck (my family is full of avid sportsmen, hunters, trappers fishermen. Gun rack explained, and Yes I have eaten squirrel!) So later, then took ill and died suddenly from some rare blood disorder. Then my brother ended up with it, and proceeded to put the big wheels and tires on it, and it almost immediately broke the tie rod end. which destroyed the axle. He then told me I could have the truck if I moved his race car to his house in western Missouri. I did this, and when i asked for the title, he wouldn't give it to me. So for 30 years it has been sitting, and i have been waiting to get the title. So, my Parents are getting older, and they knew the story about it was really my truck, but i didn't have the title. So my Dad called my Brother, and threatened to cut it up for scrap, unless he gave me the title. Well, he sent me the title, after 30 years. Sadly my mother died a couple of weeks later, totally unexpected. So to finally get the thing out of my Dads hair, and for my Mom, I will get this thing done. it just didn't deserve to die in some Illinois woods! Its too rare. Wish it was a V8 truck, but its a six. The final favor my Brother did for me was the leave the front axle open all these years, so any parts that were good, are now rusted to hell. Also all the mounting hardware has vanished! Thanks Bro!
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:27 AM   #656
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This is a shot of the front axle in the donor truck. Anyone know anything about this brace on the housing? is it factory?
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Old 09-16-2016, 01:11 AM   #657
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It's an Axle Truss. It is to help keep the tubes from bending under stress.
Very popular but I don't think it is factory. It might have been a dealer option
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Old 09-16-2016, 02:09 PM   #658
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Not a dealer option either. These were popular in the 70's when Hickey and other aftermarket manufacturers were in business. They essentially kept the long tube from separating from the casting when abusing the truck (read jumping here). Originally designed for open knuckle front axles, I see yours has some tube clamps and the truss bolted through it.
We used to use 1/4" x1" strap steel and weld them to the axle tubes and under the carrier. Then fill the gaps with 1/4" plate. If I built one today I would use 2x4 rectangular tube and form it to the housing.
If you don't plan on going fast down desert roads or jumping it, leave it stock.
The Warn front hubs on those axles are interesting. The hub is retained by a spirolock ring and then pulls out of the splines in the hub. If not well lubed they are hard to get out.

Your truck should have an HO33/35 from the factory. 9.375 ring gear rear axle, should be 3.90 gear ratio in a 4x4.

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Old 09-16-2016, 11:51 PM   #659
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Thanks for all that info. I just returned with the second truck in tow, it has plenty of issues to say the least. makes me feel allot better about parting it out to save mine. I will post some photos soon. Its a 1960 K10 as well. Were all the K series 3.90 ratios? I am worried that this housing is different than the rear one in the turquoise truck, then need to buy a gear set. Also, is there a sure fire way to know if it was a V8 truck from the factory? Thanks!

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Old 09-17-2016, 11:27 AM   #660
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In 1963 when the 12 bolts were phased in the ratios became 3.73.
Either the vin code or body tag will indicate a V8. 1960 was the first year for GM factory 4x4's, I don't think a V8 was offered the first year, just 2 sixes.
I'll check for you.
Actually body tag will tel you series wb and bed. Vin should include engine. Vin on firewall and frame matches hopefully.

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Old 09-17-2016, 11:58 AM   #661
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Check this work of art! $52000.00 Says its a 283 and it has the V8 hood badge. Not sure about the community opinion, but I don't prefer the black wheels, which from what I have read, are correct. I think many of the parts, as with any first model year are one year only, and I am sure difficult to find now. headed out now to start looking up some of that info. It has a very early 327 in it, but the ID code makes no sense. Read F0505S, but the second digit/letter could be an O, a zero. The intake casting numbers say it a Nova or Corvette part, 1962/63. I don't think it a factory V8 truck however. But its 100% a very early small block Chevy engine.

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Old 09-17-2016, 12:24 PM   #662
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Seems the 283 was available in 1960 along with the 235 and 261 sixes.
1963 was the year for the newer sixes 230 and 292 and alternators and the 12 bolt.
The 283 2 barrel was the only V8 offered in a Chevy 4x4 till 1966.
My 1963 283 was painted grey from the factory.

The red truck is very nice, 327 is definitely not original, but you can see the rear axle is.
Factory brochures showed these trucks with black, white and even body colored wheels.
I prefer white myself.

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Old 09-17-2016, 05:42 PM   #663
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The red truck is very nice, 327 is definitely not original, but you can see the rear axle is.
I apologize. I believe i caused some confusion, the red truck is a 283, but the one I bought for parts, to save mine has a very early 327 in it. I am quite sure that it wasn't a V8 truck, here are more shots of this Kansas City built 1960 K10.

Anyone ever see this spot light before?
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:50 PM   #664
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Couple more...DANA 60, and possibly custom Transfer Case? Look like a custom mount...
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Old 09-17-2016, 07:17 PM   #665
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The Dana 60 is a keeper if it is a 6 lug semi float. Very strong axle. The shock mounting is Dodge style, Chevys went forward.
It looks like I see the Rockwell t-case behind that range box.
Is there an extra shifter on the floor? Maybe that is a 2 speed over/underdrive.
It does not have a PTO shaft coming out of it does it?
I rotated the picture and I see a shift rod and clevis going into the top of the drivers side front of the box, its probably an auxiliary transmission, looks like a 2 speed.
My be under and direct or over and direct, my guess with the flatbed is it was used as a work truck and it is an underdrive.
Another good piece of equipment to have.
The Rockwell t-case is setting behind that, so with the auxiliary transmission setting between the transmission and transfer case the aux trans can be used in 4wd, that's why I think its an underdrive. It improves the crawl ratio.
Fenders doors and hood look OK in the pictures.
Were are you pulling block numbers off the 327?

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The casting number off the back of the block will be the best place to pin down the actual engine size.
The F prefix block stamp I looked up shows either a 265 or 283 from 55 or 57.
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The casting number off the back of the block will be the best place to pin down the actual engine size.
The F prefix block stamp I looked up shows either a 265 or 283 from 55 or 57.
OK, the engine ID does not jive with any web site, but here it is, right from the engine...

Casting number, 3782870. 62-65 327 CID V8

Casting Date, E 1 4, May 1, 1964

Engine code, F0505S, doesn't jive. Flint 5 May S, 1962 Passenger car, full size, power-glide.

It does a 4 barrel cast iron manifold (ruined due to a hole drilled for a vacuum fitting). The heads are the camel humps. i will get those casting numbers next.

I am going to sell this engine, I will keep the six in my truck, to keep it original.
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Old 09-18-2016, 02:35 PM   #668
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Cool pickup. Couple comments:

The shocks were canted inward lo Ile that on 60-62 4wd pickups. 63 and up they were canted Fwd. That looks to me like a factory chevy setup rear axle.

You can always tap that 4bbl manifold and install a plug with tapered pipe thread, if you want to save it. I would use a brass/bronze plug.

I wasn't aware that Dana made 60 rear axles with 6 lugs. I had assumed this truck was a k20.
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Thank you. I am still trying to learn about these trucks. I was told by the seller the DANA 60 was added by the previous owner. It is an 8 lug. I am really looking forward to fixing the other truck I have. Its a shame, I know to part this one out, but maybe I can help a few others with their project. If I could have bought just a housing for the front, i would have, I just feel lucky to even begin the journey of fixing the families old truck.
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Jason, Mine was a 63 so I assumed the shocks were all the same, thanks for the correction.
GMC used Dana 60's in 3/4 tons while Chevy mostly used Eaton corporate rear ends in 3/4 tons until 1973. After that rear axles were the same.
GMC had a heavy duty 1/2 ton with a Dana 60 six lug semi-float. A very rare rear axle but very strong. Actually stronger than the newer 14 bolt semi float.
The Dana 60 semi-float had a 9.75 ring gear diameter and 1.5 inch diameter axles. They were used in IHC, Ford and Jeep trucks as a semi float and 67-72 Mopar muscle cars with Hemis and 440's.
The small journal 327 is a forged crank motor with double hump heads is a good engine for a restorer. Probably worth a few bucks. I agree with Jason about the intake as well. All the early 60's 327 parts are sought after by restorers, so don't give it away. None of it is junk.
Even the Dana 60 is worth a couple hundred bucks for someone with a 3/4 ton GMC.
How many shift positions does that auxiliary transmission have?

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OK, so you are correct, there is another component in the drive train. I took a few more photos today. Feel free to comment/explain on what you see. There are only two shifters in the cab.
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There is actually a hole in the cab floor, cut so this modification would fit.

Mine will stay original.

Here is the original paperwork for my turquoise truck. has the dealer and the guys name who bought it new in 1960.

Not sure why they are seen inverted. I switched them and they stayed this way.
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