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Old 12-18-2018, 12:46 AM   #1
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Difference in spindles

Ok, I have a pair of spindles that were loose, don't remember where I got them, they are the same as the others that I just pulled off the 49-54 passenger car front end. Then I have the ones that were on the axle which are different.

So think I remember hearing that something like 47-51 the spindles wear unique and then from 52-54 they were the same as the passenger car, anyone have any info on this? I don't have any memory of where I got this axle so I have no idea of the year.

I plan on running the passenger car ones so I can have 5 lug.

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Old 12-18-2018, 11:14 PM   #2
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brian: additional thoughts on your axle. if you use the truck spindles, just use passenger car bearings & hubs to get a 5 lug pattern. use roller bearing, not ball bearings. if you want part numbers, I think I can dig that info out for you.
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Re: Difference in spindles

Yes please, that would be great.

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Old 12-19-2018, 12:13 AM   #4
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Re: Difference in spindles

If I’m not mistaken the car spindles have a different inclined angle
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Old 12-19-2018, 01:34 AM   #5
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If I’m not mistaken the car spindles have a different inclined angle
Exactly! My memories are sparking now, I seem to remember that from years ago. I just checked and sure as poop stinks, they are different!

Ok, new plan coming, I thank you SO MUCH nvrdone for bringing that to light!

I can't believe I don't remember this stuff.

How about these steering arms, what the heck are they? They look like the one with the one for the pitman arm built on to it. But they are later? They have regular tie rod ends on it them. And notice they are under the arm unlike the other with the ball on the top for the tie rod. That second photo on the right is the older steering arm setting up on top of the newer one, they are exactly the same shape and bolt hole spacing.

So to put the car backing plates you need to drill a new hole, I seem to remember this. It looks like one spacer on the top just like it was on the passenger car works, but then the steering arm doesn't go behind it like it did on the car and two spacers will work there.

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Old 12-19-2018, 10:18 AM   #6
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just use the truck backing plate with the car hubs and brake drums. I will look up the bearing part numbers tonight. the last picture looks like a drivers side arm that some one just cut the top off

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Re: Difference in spindles

The truck backing plates work with the car hubs and drums?

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Old 12-19-2018, 11:46 PM   #8
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Re: Difference in spindles

48/50 truck backing plates won't work with the car drums as they have Huck brakes.

I put car backing plates on the 54 axle I have under my 48 but didn't have to do the inner race mix and match that I did with the 48 spindle and 54 wagon brakes in 1973.

When I did mine the first time (54 car brakes/ Camaro stub/back to I beam with car brakes) I used the spindle as the drill guide as the car spindle is a different height and cut spacers from a piece of Ford steering shaft that I had that was 7/16 ID and worked great. I made a special trip to the Cat equipment dealer to get grade 8 bolts that time.
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Old 12-20-2018, 12:36 AM   #9
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Brian: here's what im finding for the wheel bearings:
Truck shop - 47-09216 - 47 / 59 roller bearing kit
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Old 12-20-2018, 12:38 AM   #10
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my backing plates may not be the stock ones for my'49 because they aren't huck brakes
I didn't have to drill any new holes in the backing plate to mount them so they may be a later year
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Re: Difference in spindles

Well this shot certainly isn't going to help lol. I got in a big hurry and stacked flat washers for the spacers on it the last time.
That was during the three week thrash from bare frame to driving to an event in it.
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Well this shot certainly isn't going to help lol. I got in a big hurry and stacked flat washers for the spacers on it the last time.
That was during the three week thrash from bare frame to driving to an event in it.
I guess I am not the only guy who use to do that! OMG weeks on end working until 2 in the morning....and then not being able to finish it anyway.

Thanks for the input guys!

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Re: Difference in spindles

That was done in 1989 when I had a lot more energy. Kustom Kemps was putting on the Mountain High Nationals in Chehalis/Centralia Wa and I decided that I was gong to take the truck. The cab was sitting on a pallet behind what is now my garage where I had put it a few years before when I tore the truck apart because I didn't like the twist that the frame had and a buddy gave me the frame and front axle and another buddy gave me the rear axle and I had traded my cousin's son for the 250 six when he totaled his 74 Ventura. The Idea was to put it together, take it to two events and tear it down but about that time I totaled the 70 truck that my late son had had and ended up driving the 48 daily for quite a while.
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