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chevy72402 · 04-17-2002, 01:02 PM

don't try to patronize me saying that "I know. Your facts are real and mine are junk. Just like all arguements." That is BULL! I read your facts and came back with facts I found!! I just came back with different numbers from a ethanol source, not some college where they round up or down to fit their purpose.

Even through your numbers I see no 50% loss in fuel economy.

I guess some people can't disagree and do so in a intelligent way!

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72 chevy super, long box, 402 big block (2,000 miles on rebuild 2wd orange and white.
84 k10 4x4 crate 350 with 330 hp

**68Custom** · 04-17-2002, 01:19 PM

Anyone remember "Leaded" Gasoline?

CE20934 · 04-17-2002, 01:47 PM

Now that was good gas.

bbs1965 · 04-17-2002, 01:59 PM

vp racing fuel at all pumps 25 cents a gallon
120 octane. Now thats what I want.

HuggerCST · 04-17-2002, 02:21 PM

Well, personally, I support it, because it supports our farmers. As an alternative fuel. If gasoline went up to 3-4 dollars a gallon, I'd be useing it. I don't want to be forced to use it, but it's nice to know that we have an alternative that burns cleaner, and is home grown.

chevy2racr · 04-17-2002, 04:13 PM

RAISED HAND

120 octane for 25cents??? I WISH!
but anyway, I've only seen one person posting a site with anything that looks like fact. I live on a farm, and know that since ethonal has been intorduced the price of corn has improved for us and everywhere I goto the gas pump I see ethonal(89Octane 10%blend) as cheaper then old 88 octane unleaded. we've not had problems, you just gotta know everything the ethonal can eat throuh the wrong plastics in some carbs, you just gonna be educated.
Bryce

texnician01 · 04-17-2002, 04:48 PM

you are correct in saying that mileage will decrease. 50% seems a little steep but it will decrease. the cause of this is because our engines are inefficient. the 85% ethanol that we have around here is 100 octane or better. we can run higher comp. ratios with that and not have as many problems. higher compression means higher efficiency. Ethanol does burn hotter and therefore will raise cylinder temps. some studying needs to be done and see if this will hurt pistons or anything.

Here in Iowa farmers can produce 2000 gallons of Ethanol with no tax, as long as it is denatured (unfit for human consumption, usually with gasoline or some poison). The mash/beer from the production that is left over can be fed to cattle and other livestock and has great nutritional value. Really Ethanol production is no different than Beer production except that it uses corn. it is still a fermented grain and I don't think smells any different than a Brewery. And if people think that smells bad then they should have lived around here a few years back. we had this place that used the wash water from the local dairy to keep their compost moist. several acres were covered with this and it was basicly spoiled, sour, milk. THAT stunk.

another thing, gasoline is made up of about 12 DIFFERENT FUELS AND ADDITIVES. ethanol is ONE fuel that cleans much better than gas, has a higher octane raiting than gas, and therefore, in a pure form, cannot "seperate". Ethanol is really a better fuel than gasoline will ever be.

I guess that this argument could go on forever but in my opinion I think that the advantages of ethanol greatly outweigh any disadvantages.

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1969 C-10 292 I-6 4 spd in the middle of a restoration. going to get a 327 and 3.07 gears but keeping all of the original parts so I can put it back to original later on down the road.
55 chevy 4 door 150
47 Willys CJ-2A

[This message has been edited by texnician01 (edited April 17, 2002).]

chevy70 · 04-18-2002, 09:31 PM

I live on a farm and run alot of small engines the only reason it is hard on them is ethanol absorbs mosture very easy it also dose a good job of cleaning the gunk out of your fuel system which may cause some of the loose chunks to plug something but so what your carb probly needed cleaning any way.So if your going to let something sit for a long time dump in some stai-bil fuel or if you are using ethanol for the first time plan on cleaning your carb, no big deal

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70 chevy lwb 350 3on the tree

04-17-2002, 01:02 PM	#26
chevy72402 FARMER/RANCHER Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: SD Posts: 597	don't try to patronize me saying that "I know. Your facts are real and mine are junk. Just like all arguements." That is BULL! I read your facts and came back with facts I found!! I just came back with different numbers from a ethanol source, not some college where they round up or down to fit their purpose. Even through your numbers I see no 50% loss in fuel economy. I guess some people can't disagree and do so in a intelligent way! ------------------ 72 chevy super, long box, 402 big block (2,000 miles on rebuild 2wd orange and white. 84 k10 4x4 crate 350 with 330 hp __________________ 1972 chevy super, long box, 402 big block (2,000 miles on rebuild) 2wd tach, tilt, tool box on bedside, a/c, sliding rear window, orange and white. 1972 Chevy Blazer 2wd, tach, tilt, a/c, my first engine overhauling experience, Orange, with white top 2006 Gmc Sierra, XM, Z-71, dark blue, onstar, leather, rear entertainment (audio only) heated seats, (the wife loves that feature) upgraded tires immediately after purchase to Goodyear Wrangler AT/S (hate those rock throwers that come from the factory) BWC

04-17-2002, 01:19 PM	#27
68Custom Hammer On! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 473	Anyone remember "Leaded" Gasoline? __________________ 1968 C20 Inline 6 250 SM465 4 speed 1968 K10 Inline 6 250 SM465 4 speed

04-17-2002, 01:47 PM	#28
CE20934 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Help! I'm in an office park with its own network of freeways! Posts: 470	Now that was good gas. __________________ '67 C20--427 tall deck/SM420, 4.10 HO52 (Michigan has not been kind to the Old Man) '95 Caprice--355 LT1/T56/3.42 8.5" 10-bolt (daily driver, almost 300k on the chassis) '07 Outback--wife's car. 125k & counting. No head gasket or transmission issues yet. fingers crossed

04-17-2002, 01:59 PM	#29
bbs1965 Open Sundays 10 till 10 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Waxahachie,Texas 75165 Posts: 1,009	vp racing fuel at all pumps 25 cents a gallon 120 octane. Now thats what I want. __________________ 817-846-5476 parts for sale always 30 minutes south of Dallas on I35 WWW.BBSAutoSalvage.com bbs1969@direcway.com

04-17-2002, 02:21 PM	#30
HuggerCST Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Louisiana Posts: 4,501	Well, personally, I support it, because it supports our farmers. As an alternative fuel. If gasoline went up to 3-4 dollars a gallon, I'd be useing it. I don't want to be forced to use it, but it's nice to know that we have an alternative that burns cleaner, and is home grown. __________________ Wynne 70 CST short fleet Hugger orange & white, 350/350, ps, pb, air, tilt, tach/vac/speedwarning, original buckets, AM/FM, oak bed floor, shoulder belts, 3.5"/5.5" drop, 20" American Racing VN425s. Build thread 53 Chevy shortbed 69 Camaro Click here to subscribe Chevy GMC International Truck Club Louisiana Charter Member http://www.louisianaclassictruckclub.com

04-17-2002, 04:13 PM	#31
chevy2racr So Many Ideas, So Little Money Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Marshalltown, IA Posts: 1,610	RAISED HAND 120 octane for 25cents??? I WISH! but anyway, I've only seen one person posting a site with anything that looks like fact. I live on a farm, and know that since ethonal has been intorduced the price of corn has improved for us and everywhere I goto the gas pump I see ethonal(89Octane 10%blend) as cheaper then old 88 octane unleaded. we've not had problems, you just gotta know everything the ethonal can eat throuh the wrong plastics in some carbs, you just gonna be educated. Bryce __________________ 72 Blazer 3/4 ton running gear 4.10s NP205/TH350 350 4in lift half doors 71 C10 with 454 99 S-10 5.1L SBC 700R4 09 Malibu Marshalltown, Iowa

04-17-2002, 04:48 PM	#32
texnician01 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: 12 Miles South of Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 359	you are correct in saying that mileage will decrease. 50% seems a little steep but it will decrease. the cause of this is because our engines are inefficient. the 85% ethanol that we have around here is 100 octane or better. we can run higher comp. ratios with that and not have as many problems. higher compression means higher efficiency. Ethanol does burn hotter and therefore will raise cylinder temps. some studying needs to be done and see if this will hurt pistons or anything. Here in Iowa farmers can produce 2000 gallons of Ethanol with no tax, as long as it is denatured (unfit for human consumption, usually with gasoline or some poison). The mash/beer from the production that is left over can be fed to cattle and other livestock and has great nutritional value. Really Ethanol production is no different than Beer production except that it uses corn. it is still a fermented grain and I don't think smells any different than a Brewery. And if people think that smells bad then they should have lived around here a few years back. we had this place that used the wash water from the local dairy to keep their compost moist. several acres were covered with this and it was basicly spoiled, sour, milk. THAT stunk. another thing, gasoline is made up of about 12 DIFFERENT FUELS AND ADDITIVES. ethanol is ONE fuel that cleans much better than gas, has a higher octane raiting than gas, and therefore, in a pure form, cannot "seperate". Ethanol is really a better fuel than gasoline will ever be. I guess that this argument could go on forever but in my opinion I think that the advantages of ethanol greatly outweigh any disadvantages. ------------------ 1969 C-10 292 I-6 4 spd in the middle of a restoration. going to get a 327 and 3.07 gears but keeping all of the original parts so I can put it back to original later on down the road. 55 chevy 4 door 150 47 Willys CJ-2A [This message has been edited by texnician01 (edited April 17, 2002).] __________________ 69 C-10, 340HP 327 55 chevy 4 door 150 47 Willys CJ-2A 05 Harley Night Train 06 1200 Sportster (Wife's bike) 70 Honda CL350 OIF2 & OIF7 Veteran Nathan & Tiffany

04-18-2002, 09:31 PM	#33
chevy70 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ivanhoe, MN USA Posts: 32	I live on a farm and run alot of small engines the only reason it is hard on them is ethanol absorbs mosture very easy it also dose a good job of cleaning the gunk out of your fuel system which may cause some of the loose chunks to plug something but so what your carb probly needed cleaning any way.So if your going to let something sit for a long time dump in some stai-bil fuel or if you are using ethanol for the first time plan on cleaning your carb, no big deal ------------------ 70 chevy lwb 350 3on the tree __________________ 70 chevy c/10 lwb 350 TH350/under construction 91 chevy K1500 350 700r4

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