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04ls1gto · 05-22-2017, 01:36 PM

Whats everyone done to insulate there suburbans from sound and heat. I have entire interior our and might as well do something prior to reinstalling

**LockDoc** · 05-22-2017, 09:40 PM

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Right, wrong, or indifferent, I sprayed the inside of my Panel Truck with 3M "Body Shutz" undercoating then used 2" pink foam board on the sides and 1" white foam board on the roof interior. I couldn't believe how much it quieted that tin can down....

LockDoc

**Hart_Rod** · 05-23-2017, 03:24 PM

I used FatMat.

04ls1gto · 05-23-2017, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

I used FatMat.

Did you feel like it made a difference? And how many square ft did you use to do entire truck?

**Hart_Rod** · 05-24-2017, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 04ls1gto

Did you feel like it made a difference? And how many square ft did you use to do entire truck?

Yes, I feel it does. I used 4 or 5 rolls, (50 sqft/roll), but I doubled it on the floor and firewall.

**HO455** · 05-24-2017, 09:31 PM

I used 2- 50 sq ft rolls of B-quiet mat on the steel floor and firewall. Then some foil backed bubble wrap on the roof. On the floor in back I have a 3/8" felt carpet pad under the carpet. I may still add some more insulation on the sides one I get some miles on it. I know it helped even with the few miles I have on it. Plus during the installation I discovered a spot on the roof that drummed like thunder with just a light tap of the finger. Replacing the window felts also made a huge improvement. If you want more info my WMB thread has some starting about page five.

**Hart_Rod** · 05-25-2017, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HO455

I used 2- 50 sq ft rolls of B-quiet mat on the steel floor and firewall. Then some foil backed bubble wrap on the roof. On the floor in back I have a 3/8" felt carpet pad under the carpet. I may still add some more insulation on the sides one I get some miles on it. I know it helped even with the few miles I have on it. Plus during the installation I discovered a spot on the roof that drummed like thunder with just a light tap of the finger. Replacing the window felts also made a huge improvement. If you want more info my WMB thread has some starting about page five.

Good stuff! FYI, PRP finally has the 3rd door quarter glass window rubber corrected,

.

**HO455** · 05-25-2017, 09:49 AM

Did you get the first set? That is good to know I know someone local who is looking for one. Thanks to Richard2717 for giving me a good used one I was able to get my glass installed last year.

blazer2007 · 05-25-2017, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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Right, wrong, or indifferent, I sprayed the inside of my Panel Truck with 3M "Body Shutz" undercoating then used 2" pink foam board on the sides and 1" white foam board on the roof interior. I couldn't believe how much it quieted that tin can down....

LockDoc

how did you attach the foam board to the sides

**Hart_Rod** · 05-25-2017, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HO455

Did you get the first set? That is good to know I know someone local who is looking for one. Thanks to Richard2717 for giving me a good used one I was able to get my glass installed last year.

I got multiple "first sets"

. But I think PRP has addressed all the issues and they should work quite well now.

**HO455** · 05-25-2017, 03:49 PM

If they followed through with your input and your high standards of quality they will be perfect.

**LockDoc** · 05-25-2017, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazer2007

how did you attach the foam board to the sides

If you are going to use side panels you don't need to attach it. The panels will hold it in just fine.

LockDoc

olblue60@aol.com · 05-26-2017, 07:21 AM

Contact Rick at "Raam Audio". I usually mind my own business and don't usually do referrals, but.... This owner, " Rick ", is probably one of not only the friendliest but very knowledgeable people about the products he sells . Call all the others that you want first , Then call Rick ! His prices are great too!

**HO455** · 05-26-2017, 11:51 AM

I think I need to apologize for Hart_Rod and I hijacking this thread. I hope no one has been offended.

Gobuffalo · 07-05-2017, 11:55 PM

I used Lizard Skin.
One coat of sound insulation and one of heat insulation.
I went from the top of the firewall to the wood floor and the entire roof.
Took 2 gallons of each.

Gobuffalo · 07-05-2017, 11:57 PM

Here's the floor.

AnotherWs6 · 07-07-2017, 10:43 AM

Lizard Skin ^^^^^ How did this work out? Noticeable?

Gobuffalo · 07-08-2017, 01:33 PM

I don't know yet. I'm going to start it for the first time today.

**HO455** · 07-09-2017, 11:39 PM

Still waiting for those updates.

Awjunkies · 07-10-2017, 02:16 PM

Got my burb painted, put the new wood bed I made in Saturday and on this insulation step now. Putting a dynamat/fatmat type insulation on the steel floor.

Lizard skin is good for roof and sides/doors but expensive, they sell one for heat and noise reduction.

One of the biggest perks of working in the high end restoration business for 10+ years I learned a lot from the actual vendors where they developed their products. For my 74 mini clubman race car I made before the burb I used a latex paint/insuladd combo since all I had in the interior was seats and a rollbar and it helped a ton.

Lizard skin and all the other companies sell you a premixed formula. Look at insuladd.com and see the benefits. Be wary of amazon and eBay they sell a replica version and it doesn't work as well.

Bought the insuladd heat and a gallon of generic paint for a 1/4 the price. Made it extra thick and coated the inside roof, sides, and doors yesterday. Putting in some foil backed styrofoam on the roof and frp panels/trim lock I got from Home Depot.

**HO455** · 07-10-2017, 09:50 PM

Thanks for the Insuladd tip. Did you use Azek for the new floor? Your Burban is looking good. Great color choice!

Awjunkies · 07-10-2017, 10:32 PM

Used regular pressure treated plywood, 2 coats of primer and 2 coats of paint. None of my local hardware stores carried a single sheet big enough so I bought two and joined together. Wood is joined together with a half lap splice, just used the old one as a template and drilled all the same holes. Went in a lot easier then it was to take it out.

WannaBe68 · 07-11-2017, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Good stuff! FYI, PRP finally has the 3rd door quarter glass window rubber corrected,

.

Sorry if I missed it, but who is PRP? I bought a complete set of the new 3 door suburban door seals from GMC-P and the fit is great! But the 3rd door 1/4 glass seal......not so much. Would love to find a set that fit.
Thanks!

Awjunkies · 07-11-2017, 11:15 AM

I'm about to install the doors as well from gmcpaul. Also have the rear cargo door and window and the super expensive long rear glass gaskets hopefully they all go in smooth.

**HO455** · 07-11-2017, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WannaBe68

Sorry if I missed it, but who is PRP? I bought a complete set of the new 3 door suburban door seals from GMC-P and the fit is great! But the 3rd door 1/4 glass seal......not so much. Would love to find a set that fit.
Thanks!

Once again I hijack this thread. PRP is Precision Rubber Products. They have redone their window seal for the third door fixed windows. HartRod worked with them on the new version and if he is happy then the seal is correct. It sounds like you have the old version. HartRod has pictures of the new ones near the end of his Superburban build thread.

05-22-2017, 01:36 PM	#1
04ls1gto Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Portsmouth ri Posts: 363	Insulating Suburban Whats everyone done to insulate there suburbans from sound and heat. I have entire interior our and might as well do something prior to reinstalling

05-22-2017, 09:40 PM	#2
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,317	Re: Insulating Suburban - Right, wrong, or indifferent, I sprayed the inside of my Panel Truck with 3M "Body Shutz" undercoating then used 2" pink foam board on the sides and 1" white foam board on the roof interior. I couldn't believe how much it quieted that tin can down.... LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

05-23-2017, 03:24 PM	#3
Hart_Rod ************* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 17,827	Re: Insulating Suburban I used FatMat. Attached Images __________________ Rob - https://www.instagram.com/hart_rod_c10 As Iron Sharpens Iron, So One Man Sharpens Another. Proverbs 27:17 FOR SALE: DBW pedal bracket - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651123 FOR SALE: Hood Brackets http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=679945 1987 Silverado SWB - 34.5K original miles http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=801834 1969 SuperBurb - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387 1968 Farm truck - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358692 1968 SWB - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551258 1948 Chevy - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=122164&page=3

05-24-2017, 09:31 PM	#6
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,786	Re: Insulating Suburban I used 2- 50 sq ft rolls of B-quiet mat on the steel floor and firewall. Then some foil backed bubble wrap on the roof. On the floor in back I have a 3/8" felt carpet pad under the carpet. I may still add some more insulation on the sides one I get some miles on it. I know it helped even with the few miles I have on it. Plus during the installation I discovered a spot on the roof that drummed like thunder with just a light tap of the finger. Replacing the window felts also made a huge improvement. If you want more info my WMB thread has some starting about page five. Attached Images __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban the WMB,1991 S(stink)-10 Blazer,1969 GTO, 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird. 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

05-25-2017, 09:49 AM	#8
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,786	Re: Insulating Suburban Did you get the first set? That is good to know I know someone local who is looking for one. Thanks to Richard2717 for giving me a good used one I was able to get my glass installed last year. __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban the WMB,1991 S(stink)-10 Blazer,1969 GTO, 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird. 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

05-25-2017, 03:49 PM	#11
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,786	Re: Insulating Suburban If they followed through with your input and your high standards of quality they will be perfect. __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban the WMB,1991 S(stink)-10 Blazer,1969 GTO, 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird. 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

05-26-2017, 07:21 AM	#13
olblue60@aol.com member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Silver Spring Md.20901 Posts: 2,031	Re: Insulating Suburban Contact Rick at "Raam Audio". I usually mind my own business and don't usually do referrals, but.... This owner, " Rick ", is probably one of not only the friendliest but very knowledgeable people about the products he sells . Call all the others that you want first , Then call Rick ! His prices are great too! __________________ 1967 C/K10 Chevy Panel 1968 C/K20 Chevy Pickup 1968 C/K10 Chevy Suburban 1941 Chevy Sedan Delivery 1960 Chevy Sedan Delivery 1972 Camaro SS 396 #s matching 1971 Harley FX Superglide

05-26-2017, 11:51 AM	#14
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,786	Re: Insulating Suburban I think I need to apologize for Hart_Rod and I hijacking this thread. I hope no one has been offended. __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban the WMB,1991 S(stink)-10 Blazer,1969 GTO, 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird. 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

07-05-2017, 11:55 PM	#15
Gobuffalo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Crestline, CA Posts: 225	Re: Insulating Suburban I used Lizard Skin. One coat of sound insulation and one of heat insulation. I went from the top of the firewall to the wood floor and the entire roof. Took 2 gallons of each. Attached Images

07-05-2017, 11:57 PM	#16
Gobuffalo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Crestline, CA Posts: 225	Re: Insulating Suburban Here's the floor. Attached Images

07-07-2017, 10:43 AM	#17
AnotherWs6 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Westchester, NY Posts: 602	Re: Insulating Suburban Lizard Skin ^^^^^ How did this work out? Noticeable? __________________ 1968 C-10 Suburban - Original 396/TH400 2002 Transam WS6 - M6 - Black/Black - Evil Garage Queen 2000 Silverado - DD - Small lift+Body lift+35" Duratracs+4.88's + Eaton TruTrac - Monster Truck 2010 Cadillac CTS Wagon Sport - Wife's DD and the only classy car we have.

07-08-2017, 01:33 PM	#18
Gobuffalo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Crestline, CA Posts: 225	Re: Insulating Suburban I don't know yet. I'm going to start it for the first time today.

07-09-2017, 11:39 PM	#19
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,786	Re: Insulating Suburban Still waiting for those updates. __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban the WMB,1991 S(stink)-10 Blazer,1969 GTO, 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird. 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

07-10-2017, 02:16 PM	#20
Awjunkies Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gulfport,MS Posts: 63	Re: Insulating Suburban Got my burb painted, put the new wood bed I made in Saturday and on this insulation step now. Putting a dynamat/fatmat type insulation on the steel floor. Lizard skin is good for roof and sides/doors but expensive, they sell one for heat and noise reduction. One of the biggest perks of working in the high end restoration business for 10+ years I learned a lot from the actual vendors where they developed their products. For my 74 mini clubman race car I made before the burb I used a latex paint/insuladd combo since all I had in the interior was seats and a rollbar and it helped a ton. Lizard skin and all the other companies sell you a premixed formula. Look at insuladd.com and see the benefits. Be wary of amazon and eBay they sell a replica version and it doesn't work as well. Bought the insuladd heat and a gallon of generic paint for a 1/4 the price. Made it extra thick and coated the inside roof, sides, and doors yesterday. Putting in some foil backed styrofoam on the roof and frp panels/trim lock I got from Home Depot.

07-10-2017, 09:50 PM	#21
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,786	Re: Insulating Suburban Thanks for the Insuladd tip. Did you use Azek for the new floor? Your Burban is looking good. Great color choice! __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban the WMB,1991 S(stink)-10 Blazer,1969 GTO, 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird. 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377



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07-10-2017, 10:32 PM	#22
Awjunkies Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gulfport,MS Posts: 63	Re: Insulating Suburban Used regular pressure treated plywood, 2 coats of primer and 2 coats of paint. None of my local hardware stores carried a single sheet big enough so I bought two and joined together. Wood is joined together with a half lap splice, just used the old one as a template and drilled all the same holes. Went in a lot easier then it was to take it out.

07-11-2017, 11:15 AM	#24
Awjunkies Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gulfport,MS Posts: 63	Re: Insulating Suburban I'm about to install the doors as well from gmcpaul. Also have the rear cargo door and window and the super expensive long rear glass gaskets hopefully they all go in smooth.

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