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LEX · 12-18-2012, 07:34 PM

Hey, guys. I'm in the process of swapping my starter with the O'Reilly one mentioned and noticed the broken gear in the old one. What do you think caused this? I don't want the new one to break. It's a PITA since I had to drop the header. I recently swapped the factory harness for a Painless. For a while it was fine until CLANK coming from the starter when I tried to crank it one day. Pics...

BarryB · 12-18-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LEX

Hey, guys. I'm in the process of swapping my starter with the O'Reilly one mentioned and noticed the broken gear in the old one. What do you think caused this? I don't want the new one to break. It's a PITA since I had to drop the header. I recently swapped the factory harness for a Painless. For a while it was fine until CLANK coming from the starter when I tried to crank it one day. Pics...

I would double check your flex plate. no gouges or anything loose. If all checks ok, make sure you have that new starter shimmed properly, shouldn't be an issue.

LEX · 12-18-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryB

I would double check your flex plate. no gouges or anything loose. If all checks ok, make sure you have that new starter shimmed properly, shouldn't be an issue.

Hey, Barry. I was thinking of shims, but never thought of taking a closer look at the flex plate. Thanks for the tip.
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c10srule · 12-19-2012, 07:33 AM

we just put one of those staters on my boys malibu, works great he loves it, spins over a whole lot faster than the high torque he had on it, thanks for the info,

MARKDTN · 12-19-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LEX

Hey, guys. I'm in the process of swapping my starter with the O'Reilly one mentioned and noticed the broken gear in the old one. What do you think caused this? I don't want the new one to break. It's a PITA since I had to drop the header. I recently swapped the factory harness for a Painless. For a while it was fine until CLANK coming from the starter when I tried to crank it one day. Pics...

Are you using the brace at the other end? The high-torque big starters are more sensitive to breaking teeth or the nose if you don't use the support brace. They are often missing.

LEX · 12-19-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MARKDTN

Are you using the brace at the other end? The high-torque big starters are more sensitive to breaking teeth or the nose if you don't use the support brace. They are often missing.

There was no support brace and didn't know there was such a thing. Can I pick one up at any auto parts store?

*edit* I Googled it and will pick one up online somewhere to be safe. Thanks

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HotRod C/10 · 01-19-2013, 11:45 AM

is this the same starter $34.99? what is the "X" for at the end verses the non "X"

They also list a 03-0367m for $46.99.......

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/se...yword=03-0367x

Andy4639 · 01-19-2013, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HotRod C/10

is this the same starter $34.99? what is the "X" for at the end verses the non "X"

They also list a 03-0367m for $46.99.......

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/se...yword=03-0367x

Not sure what that X means but it could be the differance between the staggered bolt holes and the straight across bolt holes maybe. I would think they could show you though.
This is mine.

gangforward · 01-19-2013, 07:11 PM

I just installed one from Toshiba - thanks to a tip from the folks at Gearhead Performance in Clearwater. I was prepared to purchase the Revmaster - this was less than half as much.

I've got long tube headers - got really tired having to sit for hours waiting for the heatsoak to clear. Also installed new wiring and a dedicated selinoid. Works great.

As far as the whine - at the local 711 a fellow walking by when I blipped the starter said - Damm, that sounded like a race car starter....

BCOWANWHEELS · 01-19-2013, 07:27 PM

The fella with the broken starter teeth. I guarantee you that you need a flex plate now. You better pull the cover and rotate the flex plate 100% and inspect it at the least. Aalso check the mounting bolts/nuts for torque converter and flex to converter. Something caused this to happen. AND WHY ARE YOU FELLAS POSTING ALL THIS STUFF THAT IS NOT RELATED TO MY ORIGINAL POST ?
Jmo
bob

elf w/capital T · 01-20-2013, 12:19 PM

Good post cause i was trying to figure out which one to get since i did buy a mini starter and the mount holes were different. Thanks!!

epon · 07-08-2014, 09:42 AM

Im looking for a high torque starter for the 305 and wondering if these suggested units will bolt right up. I contated the ebay seller mentioned above and 305's arent showing in his application charts but thinks it will fit with no gaurantees. Hoping someone has crossed this bridge and has wise words.

**rustytruck50** · 09-04-2016, 03:47 PM

Works great!!!! Thank you for the tip!!!!

**WorkinLonghorn** · 07-24-2018, 07:35 PM

So BCOWANWHEELS, how is that starter holding up. It's time for me to get my starter replaced so I called O'Reilly and they have reman 03-0367 for $53 (special order). -BA

**Steeveedee** · 07-24-2018, 07:57 PM

This would appear to be the tip of the decade! Something I have looming in my future is a flex plate replacement, as the gear reduction starter I bought many years ago appears to only engage about 1/4 of the way, and those flex plate teeth are looking mighty worn. I believe that it is the original flex plate. Didn't make it to 1/4 Million miles; I am quite disappointed.

The engine needs rebuilding or replacing; I'm hoping that the flex plate holds out until I can do the work, if my hands get well enough...and I can find a place to do it. The only thing available to me here is the street. I've done some serious work in that street- we put a rebuilt /6 in my son's Dart, and when that went TU, we swapped the entire K-member and a V-8 into it, there in the street. I've also had the engine in my '68 Skylark in and out, there in the street.

I remember that back in the '60s we could get a shop to rewind a starter so that it could crank over an engine with 13:1 compression for the race cars. I don't know how those worked hot, however. My little gear reduction starter still cranks hard (it hits, but the engine just turns over slowly) when it's hot. Even after all the extra ground wires and running the battery ground cable all the way to the starter. I don't care if my truck sounds like it's grinding MOPAR brand coffee, as long as it starts under all conditions.

bill3rail · 07-24-2018, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee

This would appear to be the tip of the decade!

The decade...Almost, the thread started about 8 years ago!

Unfortunate for me, these are not available for the inline 6 with a three bolt starter.

Bill

**Steeveedee** · 07-24-2018, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bill3rail

The decade...Almost, the thread started about 8 years ago!

Unfortunate for me, these are not available for the inline 6 with a three bolt starter.

Bill

But those have a hand crank, so life is good, right?

On a serious note, does the 6 cylinder have a hot start problem?

Domingo · 07-25-2018, 09:12 AM

What about the guys running the smaller flexplate 153 tooth

Benjamin · 07-25-2018, 12:07 PM

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bill3rail · 07-25-2018, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee

But those have a hand crank, so life is good, right?

On a serious note, does the 6 cylinder have a hot start problem?

My crank lever is broken so I installed the "Electrisicle Startering Dohickey"!

No starting issues, just looking for modifications that will help the truck.

BCOWANWHEELS · 04-22-2019, 04:04 PM

went to buy aa second one, now there 82.00 bucks exch.

**special-K** · 04-23-2019, 06:13 AM

Do you still have the vehicle with the starter you started this thread about? How has the starter been holding up?

BCOWANWHEELS · 04-23-2019, 11:39 AM

yes, perfect now I,am building a 350/350hp engine and need another

KQQL IT · 04-23-2019, 02:09 PM

I have 3 of them.
2 - 454 trucks and 1 400 SbC
The 68 454 and the 73 400 both have headers. Never hot start blues. Would even spin the 400 with 36° initial timing.

https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-337-1.../dp/B007QBT0WA

KQQL IT · 04-23-2019, 02:16 PM

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12-18-2012, 07:34 PM	#26
LEX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 884	Re: Small block starter tip of the week..... Hey, guys. I'm in the process of swapping my starter with the O'Reilly one mentioned and noticed the broken gear in the old one. What do you think caused this? I don't want the new one to break. It's a PITA since I had to drop the header. I recently swapped the factory harness for a Painless. For a while it was fine until CLANK coming from the starter when I tried to crank it one day. Pics...

12-19-2012, 07:33 AM	#29
c10srule Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: oran,mo. Posts: 171	Re: Small block starter tip of the week..... we just put one of those staters on my boys malibu, works great he loves it, spins over a whole lot faster than the high torque he had on it, thanks for the info,

01-19-2013, 11:45 AM	#32
HotRod C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 3,053	Re: Small block starter tip of the week..... is this the same starter $34.99? what is the "X" for at the end verses the non "X" They also list a 03-0367m for $46.99....... http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/se...yword=03-0367x __________________ SOLD -77 CHEYENNE SWB, LS SWAPPED -1976 SILVERADO YUBA GOLD/NEUTRAL (2-TONE) Last edited by HotRod C/10; 01-19-2013 at 12:07 PM.

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gangforward Hootis is as Hootis does... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Southern Georgia Posts: 500	Re: Small block starter tip of the week..... I just installed one from Toshiba - thanks to a tip from the folks at Gearhead Performance in Clearwater. I was prepared to purchase the Revmaster - this was less than half as much. I've got long tube headers - got really tired having to sit for hours waiting for the heatsoak to clear. Also installed new wiring and a dedicated selinoid. Works great. As far as the whine - at the local 711 a fellow walking by when I blipped the starter said - Damm, that sounded like a race car starter.... Attached Images __________________ 67 C10 LWB Fleet, 383, TH400, PS, 4BL-Holley, Headers & 3" Exhaust, 3" drop front, 4" rear springs, ECI shock relocate, Panhard Bar kit, wheels & tires 1995 Z28 Convertible - Borla, K&N, Lingenfelter Motor, C6 Wheels & Tires 1990 2500 4x4 Suburban 3" Catbac System, K&N, 2" Lift, Wheels, Tires

01-19-2013, 07:27 PM	#35
BCOWANWHEELS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: KINGSPORT,TN. Posts: 3,035	Re: Small block starter tip of the week..... The fella with the broken starter teeth. I guarantee you that you need a flex plate now. You better pull the cover and rotate the flex plate 100% and inspect it at the least. Aalso check the mounting bolts/nuts for torque converter and flex to converter. Something caused this to happen. AND WHY ARE YOU FELLAS POSTING ALL THIS STUFF THAT IS NOT RELATED TO MY ORIGINAL POST ? Jmo bob __________________ I BELIEVE IN JOHN 3:16

01-20-2013, 12:19 PM	#36
elf w/capital T Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 994	Re: Small block starter tip of the week..... Good post cause i was trying to figure out which one to get since i did buy a mini starter and the mount holes were different. Thanks!!

07-08-2014, 09:42 AM	#37
epon Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 174	Re: Small block starter tip of the week..... Im looking for a high torque starter for the 305 and wondering if these suggested units will bolt right up. I contated the ebay seller mentioned above and 305's arent showing in his application charts but thinks it will fit with no gaurantees. Hoping someone has crossed this bridge and has wise words. __________________ '82 C-10 SWB / C'd, Z'd, Body'd and Bagged / Shaved firewall, wiper cowl, drip rails, stake holes and tailgate/ 20" & 22" Milanni Voodoo '81 C-10 SWB Parts Truck IRC - http://webchat.snoonet.org/#baggedtrucks

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07-24-2018, 07:35 PM	#39
WorkinLonghorn Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Studio City, Calif. Posts: 2,855	Re: Small block starter tip of the week..... So BCOWANWHEELS, how is that starter holding up. It's time for me to get my starter replaced so I called O'Reilly and they have reman 03-0367 for $53 (special order). -BA __________________ '69 GMC C2500 Custom Camper, 8 1/2' bed, New GM 350, NP 435 Close Ratio 4spd. Trans., 3.73 Dana-60 open.Camper and Trailer wiring, PS, PB, AC, tach , three gas tanks, 2nd owner, Work-Truck supreme. Best $300 I ever spent.

07-24-2018, 07:57 PM	#40
Steeveedee Who Changed This? Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 10,088	Re: Small block starter tip of the week..... This would appear to be the tip of the decade! Something I have looming in my future is a flex plate replacement, as the gear reduction starter I bought many years ago appears to only engage about 1/4 of the way, and those flex plate teeth are looking mighty worn. I believe that it is the original flex plate. Didn't make it to 1/4 Million miles; I am quite disappointed. The engine needs rebuilding or replacing; I'm hoping that the flex plate holds out until I can do the work, if my hands get well enough...and I can find a place to do it. The only thing available to me here is the street. I've done some serious work in that street- we put a rebuilt /6 in my son's Dart, and when that went TU, we swapped the entire K-member and a V-8 into it, there in the street. I've also had the engine in my '68 Skylark in and out, there in the street. I remember that back in the '60s we could get a shop to rewind a starter so that it could crank over an engine with 13:1 compression for the race cars. I don't know how those worked hot, however. My little gear reduction starter still cranks hard (it hits, but the engine just turns over slowly) when it's hot. Even after all the extra ground wires and running the battery ground cable all the way to the starter. I don't care if my truck sounds like it's grinding MOPAR brand coffee, as long as it starts under all conditions. __________________ ~Steven '70 Chevy 3/4T Longhorn CST 402/400/3.56 Custom Camper Simi Valley, CA

07-25-2018, 09:12 AM	#43
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