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Old 10-21-2013, 04:10 PM   #1
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M465 and clutch questions

Greetings

A couple of questions re my very recently acquired 71 C10 with a 250 ci:

How much oil do I need for a M465 fluid replacement and is non synthetic 75-90 GL5 OK?

There isn't a clutch fork return spring on this truck and the clutch fork rattles a little bit. Just checking that there really is supposed to be a fork return spring on this truck. ???

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Old 10-21-2013, 04:52 PM   #2
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Re: M465 and clutch questions

It takes 6 pints (3Qts.) of trans grease. 75/90 GL5 is fine. Synthetic is not nessesary.
There should be a return spring on the clutch fork.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:00 PM   #3
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It takes 6 pints (3Qts.) of trans grease. 75/90 GL5 is fine. Synthetic is not nessesary.
There should be a return spring on the clutch fork.
BIG thanks ~~~~~~

Now, I just need to find a spring. MUCH better solution than RR'ing the clutch throw-out bearing.

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Old 10-27-2013, 11:20 AM   #4
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Re: M465 and clutch questions

Greetings Again

Just an FYI: I drained the M465 and found that it had about 4.2 quarts of old fluid. I leveled the truck and the refill took just a tiny little less than 4 quarts.

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Old 10-27-2013, 02:22 PM   #5
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Re: M465 and clutch questions

here's a picture of the spring you want



you can see it going from the throwout arm to the chassis
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:32 PM   #6
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Re: M465 and clutch questions

If you do some checking, I was surprised to find recommendations to use a good quality 50W motor oil ? This transmission is built like a "Brick S$@T House" it also has manny small oil passages that Need clean oil . I just serviced one in. K-10 that sat for 10 years, drained it, pulled the shifter of and filled it with Mobil 1 15W50 and added one bottle of Lucus Oil Stabilizer. Works perfect and no gear noise at all........
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Old 10-27-2013, 03:18 PM   #7
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If you do some checking, I was surprised to find recommendations to use a good quality 50W motor oil ? This transmission is built like a "Brick S$@T House" it also has manny small oil passages that Need clean oil . I just serviced one in. K-10 that sat for 10 years, drained it, pulled the shifter of and filled it with Mobil 1 15W50 and added one bottle of Lucus Oil Stabilizer. Works perfect and no gear noise at all........
What is good/bad about using a lower viscosity oil vs standard gear oil?

I refilled the trans with a high end ML5 80/90 gear oil.

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Old 11-02-2013, 12:19 PM   #8
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Re: M465 and clutch questions

Does anyone know the part # for the clutch return spring for a 71 C10 with the M465?

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