The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-27-2015, 03:53 PM   #1
jim-bob
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: brooks,georgia
Posts: 674
Gas Tank In Bad Shape

..Out of my 67..what metal are these tanks made of? The tag decal on truck shows 2000 so would the gas left in the tank for 15 yrs do this. I pushed these holes in with my thumb..Is this normal?
Attached Images
   
jim-bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 04:04 PM   #2
GASoline71
"I ain't nobody, dork."
 
GASoline71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Posts: 8,921
Re: Gas Tank In Bad Shape

With ethanol in the fuel and it sitting (at what looks like a slight angle) for 15 years... I'd say yes. Ethanol attracts moisture. It looks like a definite rust line right where the level of the fuel in the tank was at. Right where the water would sit.

Gary
__________________
'cuz chicks dig scars...

My 1972 GMC 1500 Super Custom (Creeping Death) "long term" build thread.

The Rebuild of Creeping Death after the wreck

Quote:
Originally Posted by LONGHAIR View Post
I would never rebuild a 305.
Quote:
Originally Posted by prostreetC-10 View Post
I love using vacuum gauges as part of the carb tuning process. I hook the gauge to the inside of my garbage can and leave it there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marv D View Post
Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
Quote:
Originally Posted by cableguy0 View Post
Its cheaper to listen to advice given when you ask for help than it is to ignore everyone and wait for carnage.
GASoline71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 05:15 PM   #3
special-K
Special Order

 
special-K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mt Airy, MD
Posts: 85,863
Re: Gas Tank In Bad Shape

There wasn't ethanol in the fuel the last time this truck filled up at the station. Maybe it was filled by can with ethanol more recently. Gas from 15 years ago will stand a better chance of running that truck than ethanol from 5 months ago. I wonder if water got in the cap. Even still, I would think the tank should have held it just fine. Maybe not. Could just be condensation that runs down and lays on the surface. I know oil sits on top of water, though. Would the same be true for gas, or is it less dense than water? I've never had one rust out on me, but I have heard of them seeping, which I assume is caused by rust at the seem at the bottom.
Did you remove "fluid" from the tank? I would assume it was enough to fill the tank to that line and the truck sat leaning to the passenger side. I believe they are galvanized or some sort of zinc coating. It's almost like there was some sort of acid involved
__________________
"BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed"

GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project)
GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling)
Tim

"Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman"

R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~
special-K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 08:34 PM   #4
jim-bob
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: brooks,georgia
Posts: 674
Re: Gas Tank In Bad Shape

Quote:
Originally Posted by special-K View Post
There wasn't ethanol in the fuel the last time this truck filled up at the station. Maybe it was filled by can with ethanol more recently. Gas from 15 years ago will stand a better chance of running that truck than ethanol from 5 months ago. I wonder if water got in the cap. Even still, I would think the tank should have held it just fine. Maybe not. Could just be condensation that runs down and lays on the surface. I know oil sits on top of water, though. Would the same be true for gas, or is it less dense than water? I've never had one rust out on me, but I have heard of them seeping, which I assume is caused by rust at the seem at the bottom.
Did you remove "fluid" from the tank? I would assume it was enough to fill the tank to that line and the truck sat leaning to the passenger side. I believe they are galvanized or some sort of zinc coating. It's almost like there was some sort of acid involved
..The neck inside is real rusty like powder rust..What liquid was in it poured out when I slid the tank out the passenger side into the graveled ground..I didn't see the holes til later..what I seen was like varnish..what's still inside the truck is a gooey varnish mess.
This is only the 2nd I've removed..I just thought that they wouldn't corrode this bad..Like you mentioned, it's like acid was in it..
I wonder what effect sugar mixed in the gas would do to the metal sitting for 15yrs..
jim-bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 11:15 PM   #5
franken
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 3,052
Re: Gas Tank In Bad Shape

Quote:
Originally Posted by special-K View Post
There wasn't ethanol in the fuel the last time this truck filled up at the station.
They were putting crap in the gas back in the 80s and probably before. Google gasohol.
franken is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2015, 09:04 AM   #6
special-K
Special Order

 
special-K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mt Airy, MD
Posts: 85,863
Re: Gas Tank In Bad Shape

Quote:
Originally Posted by franken View Post
They were putting crap in the gas back in the 80s and probably before. Google gasohol.
No need to google, I was driving since '71 so I was there. It was a short-lived folly and no one I know ever used it. I never did, and I don't recall the kind of talk of all the issues it causes which makes me assume people steered away from it more than used it. I'd also assume that's why it didn't stick around long. It wasn't forced on us the was this E10 is now. As if this was anything worth discussing, this gas was probably about 15 years old, which puts it at around 2000. The fact that it varnished says it was good old regular gasoline. As you said, the issue with alcohol in gasoline is it attracted moisture. I doubt water ate through the galvanized like that, but that's only my opinion. I'm curious to know what might have done this, even if someone can confirm it was in fact water. I doubt it could be sugar in gas, but I'm no chemist. Whatever did it, it was something lighter than gas that skimmed the top
__________________
"BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed"

GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project)
GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling)
Tim

"Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman"

R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~
special-K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2015, 10:08 AM   #7
70'
Registered User
 
70''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Dickinson, ND
Posts: 197
Re: Gas Tank In Bad Shape

Water is heavier than fuel guys, so any water in the tank goes straight to the bottom. Try again.....
70' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2015, 01:36 PM   #8
GASoline71
"I ain't nobody, dork."
 
GASoline71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Posts: 8,921
Re: Gas Tank In Bad Shape

^^^ Not water sitting on top of the fuel... right where the condensation starts where the line in the tank is. The spot where the condensation sits at the fuel line on the tank walls.

Gary
__________________
'cuz chicks dig scars...

My 1972 GMC 1500 Super Custom (Creeping Death) "long term" build thread.

The Rebuild of Creeping Death after the wreck

Quote:
Originally Posted by LONGHAIR View Post
I would never rebuild a 305.
Quote:
Originally Posted by prostreetC-10 View Post
I love using vacuum gauges as part of the carb tuning process. I hook the gauge to the inside of my garbage can and leave it there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marv D View Post
Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
Quote:
Originally Posted by cableguy0 View Post
Its cheaper to listen to advice given when you ask for help than it is to ignore everyone and wait for carnage.
GASoline71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2015, 11:33 PM   #9
special-K
Special Order

 
special-K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mt Airy, MD
Posts: 85,863
Re: Gas Tank In Bad Shape

Quote:
Originally Posted by 70' View Post
Water is heavier than fuel guys, so any water in the tank goes straight to the bottom. Try again.....
Thanks for confirming. I wasn't sure. Just double checked to be sure in case someone doesn't want to agree

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...96783405,d.eXY

I found this statement (post #5/last sentence) interesting and hard to believe. But this was on a physics forum, so I assume these people know more than me bout such things:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...96783405,d.eXY
__________________
"BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed"

GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project)
GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling)
Tim

"Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman"

R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

Last edited by special-K; 06-28-2015 at 11:44 PM.
special-K is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com