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creep · 01-29-2010, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corts60

Man that is looking sick!

Thanks Cort!

creep · 01-31-2010, 06:58 PM

Well, unfortunately, after trying all weekend to get the V6 back in and still have clearance to lay frame we came to the conclusion that it isn't going to fit. So now I guess I have to find a new motor and tranny. I really wanted to keep the 6 but it's just too big. I'm so bummed right now.

**Corts60** · 01-31-2010, 08:48 PM

NO! That really sucks man. What kind of engine do you think you'll go with?

creep · 02-01-2010, 02:11 PM

I'll probably end up getting a plain old crate 350. Since I have to get a different motor I might as well get one I don't have to clean

markeb01 · 02-01-2010, 02:49 PM

Too bad you couldn’t keep the V6, but they are monsters in size and weight. I was amazed how much more clearance there was when I switched to a 350. It’s pretty obvious when you compare where the valve cover fits the notch in the firewall.

TwiggyTheDrummer · 02-01-2010, 08:38 PM

Boo! But I still wouldn't mind having a nice, well-built 350 or 327 sitting around for mine. Maybe once we get the shop put up and I have somewhere to put it.

ruffrida2005 · 02-01-2010, 11:58 PM

does the 305 use the same mounts as the small blocks? I know you got the SD mount but I'm just wondering.

sanford66 · 02-02-2010, 05:00 AM

Sweet build, i love it!!! Joseph

creep · 02-02-2010, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruffrida2005

does the 305 use the same mounts as the small blocks? I know you got the SD mount but I'm just wondering.

Actually I didn't get mounts with my x-member kit. When I ordered it I told them I wanted to use the 305 V6 so they sent me parts to make my own mounts.

TwiggyTheDrummer · 02-02-2010, 04:01 PM

Feel free to send me some parts off of that motor though. I can always use them because it'll be in there for awhile.

ruffrida2005 · 02-02-2010, 08:33 PM

Yeah i knew that Creep. You gonna get Jason to bend you up some new ones. It wouldn't be that hard to make some yourself either if you had the stuff.

creep · 02-02-2010, 09:44 PM

Yeah I ordered a new set of mounts from SD. We used the other parts to make mounts for the V6.

Twiggy, give me a couple of weeks grievance period then I might have a few things from the 305 I could part with.

TwiggyTheDrummer · 02-02-2010, 09:49 PM

Yeah I think I'd need the grievance time too. Was there anything that could have been done in any way to make it fit? Was it only when aired out or just general clearance with the firewall and other components?

creep · 02-02-2010, 10:02 PM

To get it to lay out the motor would have to move up 4" which would put the clutch fork into the firewall and the top of the carb through the hood. It may be technically possible but it would be way too much work and it wouldn't be pretty at all.

ruffrida2005 · 02-02-2010, 10:04 PM

that's what I'm wanting to know

ruffrida2005 · 02-02-2010, 10:05 PM

So your saying that you could stick it through the hood and stab a blower on it and make it look like a tiny mouse motor. Sweet

creep · 03-14-2010, 12:58 PM

Slow progress is better than no progress, I guess.

creep · 03-21-2010, 08:42 PM

We finally got the notches in today but we're going to hold off on the axle for a bit because I might be able to trade the 10 bolt Chevelle axle for a 12 bolt truck axle. since I can't find anyone around here to redrill axles replacing the axle shafts in the trucks 12 bolt with 5 on 5" axle shafts would be cheaper than having some custom made for the Chevelle rear end.

ruffrida2005 · 03-21-2010, 08:53 PM

Man that is sweet. How long are the upper and lower links? I got to figure out some stuff on mine.

creep · 03-21-2010, 09:05 PM

I don't know what the exact lengths are yet. I will measure them for you next time I go out to work on it. Unfortunately it will probably be next weekend before I make it out there because it's at my buddy's house and it's about a 20 to 25 minute drive. I called suicidedoors and they told me it should be at the factory wheelbase (127") at ride height and will pull forward just slightly when layed out.

ruffrida2005 · 03-21-2010, 09:10 PM

what you setting ride hight at. I'm setting mine at 4". Yours is LWB right?

creep · 03-21-2010, 09:29 PM

Yeah mine's a longbed.

I don't know how much space I'll have under the frame yet. I've always heard that 3 and 4 link suspensions should be set up so the bars are parallel with the ground at ride height. assuming that's the case, I would guess somewhere in the 6" to 8" range. I'm going to call SD tomorrow to find out.

65Guy · 03-21-2010, 10:13 PM

What kind of front crossmember and setup is that creep?

ruffrida2005 · 03-21-2010, 11:52 PM

That is the P-51 set up from www.***************** I have the same one.

ruffrida2005 · 03-21-2010, 11:59 PM

Let me know how far you set your axle from the rear cab mounts at ride height. I believe it's 56". I'm going to set my pinion at ride height, then drop it to the ground before I mount the bags. I'm not going to run very much air in the rear to lift it. I hope I'm going in the right direction.

01-31-2010, 06:58 PM	#27
creep Registered Loser Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Elyria, OH Posts: 1,523	Re: '63 GMC Project Well, unfortunately, after trying all weekend to get the V6 back in and still have clearance to lay frame we came to the conclusion that it isn't going to fit. So now I guess I have to find a new motor and tranny. I really wanted to keep the 6 but it's just too big. I'm so bummed right now. __________________ ((..)) ((0)) '63 GMC lwb, 383, th350, lays frame, genuine patina. The Build Thread - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374267 '88 Astro cargo bagged, shaved, phantom grille. SOLD '50 Chevy 2 door sedan awaiting attention. 2014 Silverado Ext cab, 5.3, daily driver.

01-31-2010, 08:48 PM	#28
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02-01-2010, 02:11 PM	#29
creep Registered Loser Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Elyria, OH Posts: 1,523	Re: '63 GMC Project I'll probably end up getting a plain old crate 350. Since I have to get a different motor I might as well get one I don't have to clean __________________ ((..)) ((0)) '63 GMC lwb, 383, th350, lays frame, genuine patina. The Build Thread - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374267 '88 Astro cargo bagged, shaved, phantom grille. SOLD '50 Chevy 2 door sedan awaiting attention. 2014 Silverado Ext cab, 5.3, daily driver.

02-01-2010, 02:49 PM	#30
markeb01 Senior Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 8,356	Re: '63 GMC Project Too bad you couldn’t keep the V6, but they are monsters in size and weight. I was amazed how much more clearance there was when I switched to a 350. It’s pretty obvious when you compare where the valve cover fits the notch in the firewall.

02-01-2010, 08:38 PM	#31
TwiggyTheDrummer Keep It Simple Stupid.. Nope.. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Live Oak, FL Posts: 665	Re: '63 GMC Project Boo! But I still wouldn't mind having a nice, well-built 350 or 327 sitting around for mine. Maybe once we get the shop put up and I have somewhere to put it. __________________ 1963 GMC SWB Fleetside in Sunburst Orange Metallic 305E V6 w/ Plaid VC, Powerglide, BOSS 313 20" Chrome Wheels, Kumho Ecsta STX 275/45/R20's, Alpine/Clarion System, Dynomax Exhaust Old custom classic trucks have soul. Their dashboards aren't plastic, and they've survived both the best and worst of what the 20th century had to offer. For the owners of these trucks, it's often the same story. Through both good and bad times they persevered, until one day they could turn the key and roll up in a customized truck everyone with good taste would admire. – Custom Classic Trucks

02-01-2010, 11:58 PM	#32
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: '63 GMC Project does the 305 use the same mounts as the small blocks? I know you got the SD mount but I'm just wondering. __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

02-02-2010, 05:00 AM	#33
sanford66 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Everest Ks Posts: 749	Re: '63 GMC Project Sweet build, i love it!!! Joseph

02-02-2010, 04:01 PM	#35
TwiggyTheDrummer Keep It Simple Stupid.. Nope.. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Live Oak, FL Posts: 665	Re: '63 GMC Project Feel free to send me some parts off of that motor though. I can always use them because it'll be in there for awhile. __________________ 1963 GMC SWB Fleetside in Sunburst Orange Metallic 305E V6 w/ Plaid VC, Powerglide, BOSS 313 20" Chrome Wheels, Kumho Ecsta STX 275/45/R20's, Alpine/Clarion System, Dynomax Exhaust Old custom classic trucks have soul. Their dashboards aren't plastic, and they've survived both the best and worst of what the 20th century had to offer. For the owners of these trucks, it's often the same story. Through both good and bad times they persevered, until one day they could turn the key and roll up in a customized truck everyone with good taste would admire. – Custom Classic Trucks

02-02-2010, 08:33 PM	#36
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: '63 GMC Project Yeah i knew that Creep. You gonna get Jason to bend you up some new ones. It wouldn't be that hard to make some yourself either if you had the stuff. __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

02-02-2010, 09:44 PM	#37
creep Registered Loser Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Elyria, OH Posts: 1,523	Re: '63 GMC Project Yeah I ordered a new set of mounts from SD. We used the other parts to make mounts for the V6. Twiggy, give me a couple of weeks grievance period then I might have a few things from the 305 I could part with. __________________ ((..)) ((0)) '63 GMC lwb, 383, th350, lays frame, genuine patina. The Build Thread - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374267 '88 Astro cargo bagged, shaved, phantom grille. SOLD '50 Chevy 2 door sedan awaiting attention. 2014 Silverado Ext cab, 5.3, daily driver.

02-02-2010, 09:49 PM	#38
TwiggyTheDrummer Keep It Simple Stupid.. Nope.. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Live Oak, FL Posts: 665	Re: '63 GMC Project Yeah I think I'd need the grievance time too. Was there anything that could have been done in any way to make it fit? Was it only when aired out or just general clearance with the firewall and other components? __________________ 1963 GMC SWB Fleetside in Sunburst Orange Metallic 305E V6 w/ Plaid VC, Powerglide, BOSS 313 20" Chrome Wheels, Kumho Ecsta STX 275/45/R20's, Alpine/Clarion System, Dynomax Exhaust Old custom classic trucks have soul. Their dashboards aren't plastic, and they've survived both the best and worst of what the 20th century had to offer. For the owners of these trucks, it's often the same story. Through both good and bad times they persevered, until one day they could turn the key and roll up in a customized truck everyone with good taste would admire. – Custom Classic Trucks

02-02-2010, 10:02 PM	#39
creep Registered Loser Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Elyria, OH Posts: 1,523	Re: '63 GMC Project To get it to lay out the motor would have to move up 4" which would put the clutch fork into the firewall and the top of the carb through the hood. It may be technically possible but it would be way too much work and it wouldn't be pretty at all. __________________ ((..)) ((0)) '63 GMC lwb, 383, th350, lays frame, genuine patina. The Build Thread - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374267 '88 Astro cargo bagged, shaved, phantom grille. SOLD '50 Chevy 2 door sedan awaiting attention. 2014 Silverado Ext cab, 5.3, daily driver.

02-02-2010, 10:04 PM	#40
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: '63 GMC Project that's what I'm wanting to know __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

02-02-2010, 10:05 PM	#41
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: '63 GMC Project So your saying that you could stick it through the hood and stab a blower on it and make it look like a tiny mouse motor. Sweet __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

03-14-2010, 12:58 PM	#42
creep Registered Loser Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Elyria, OH Posts: 1,523	Re: '63 GMC Project Slow progress is better than no progress, I guess. __________________ ((..)) ((0)) '63 GMC lwb, 383, th350, lays frame, genuine patina. The Build Thread - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374267 '88 Astro cargo bagged, shaved, phantom grille. SOLD '50 Chevy 2 door sedan awaiting attention. 2014 Silverado Ext cab, 5.3, daily driver.



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03-21-2010, 08:42 PM	#43
creep Registered Loser Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Elyria, OH Posts: 1,523	Re: '63 GMC Project We finally got the notches in today but we're going to hold off on the axle for a bit because I might be able to trade the 10 bolt Chevelle axle for a 12 bolt truck axle. since I can't find anyone around here to redrill axles replacing the axle shafts in the trucks 12 bolt with 5 on 5" axle shafts would be cheaper than having some custom made for the Chevelle rear end. __________________ ((..)) ((0)) '63 GMC lwb, 383, th350, lays frame, genuine patina. The Build Thread - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374267 '88 Astro cargo bagged, shaved, phantom grille. SOLD '50 Chevy 2 door sedan awaiting attention. 2014 Silverado Ext cab, 5.3, daily driver.

03-21-2010, 08:53 PM	#44
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: '63 GMC Project Man that is sweet. How long are the upper and lower links? I got to figure out some stuff on mine. __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

03-21-2010, 09:05 PM	#45
creep Registered Loser Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Elyria, OH Posts: 1,523	Re: '63 GMC Project I don't know what the exact lengths are yet. I will measure them for you next time I go out to work on it. Unfortunately it will probably be next weekend before I make it out there because it's at my buddy's house and it's about a 20 to 25 minute drive. I called suicidedoors and they told me it should be at the factory wheelbase (127") at ride height and will pull forward just slightly when layed out. __________________ ((..)) ((0)) '63 GMC lwb, 383, th350, lays frame, genuine patina. The Build Thread - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374267 '88 Astro cargo bagged, shaved, phantom grille. SOLD '50 Chevy 2 door sedan awaiting attention. 2014 Silverado Ext cab, 5.3, daily driver.

03-21-2010, 09:10 PM	#46
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: '63 GMC Project what you setting ride hight at. I'm setting mine at 4". Yours is LWB right? __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

03-21-2010, 09:29 PM	#47
creep Registered Loser Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Elyria, OH Posts: 1,523	Re: '63 GMC Project Yeah mine's a longbed. I don't know how much space I'll have under the frame yet. I've always heard that 3 and 4 link suspensions should be set up so the bars are parallel with the ground at ride height. assuming that's the case, I would guess somewhere in the 6" to 8" range. I'm going to call SD tomorrow to find out. __________________ ((..)) ((0)) '63 GMC lwb, 383, th350, lays frame, genuine patina. The Build Thread - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374267 '88 Astro cargo bagged, shaved, phantom grille. SOLD '50 Chevy 2 door sedan awaiting attention. 2014 Silverado Ext cab, 5.3, daily driver.

03-21-2010, 10:13 PM	#48
65Guy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Loganville, Ga Posts: 170	Re: '63 GMC Project What kind of front crossmember and setup is that creep?

03-21-2010, 11:52 PM	#49
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: '63 GMC Project That is the P-51 set up from www.***************** I have the same one. __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

03-21-2010, 11:59 PM	#50
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: '63 GMC Project Let me know how far you set your axle from the rear cab mounts at ride height. I believe it's 56". I'm going to set my pinion at ride height, then drop it to the ground before I mount the bags. I'm not going to run very much air in the rear to lift it. I hope I'm going in the right direction. __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

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