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Old 01-19-2011, 08:36 PM   #1
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Project Pro Touring "Ole Blue"

Well...I guess I should start a build thread. I'm working on my '64 C10 that I'm building as a pro touring style truck. It actually started out as a C20 long bed step side, but when I'm done, it will be a 1/2 ton medium* bed fleet side.
*Instead of the typical 12"/8" chop, I'm going to do a 9"/6" chop

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I'll start posting pictures of what I have done already and explain it as I go
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:39 PM   #2
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Here is where I started after tear down:
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:08 PM   #3
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Re: Project Pro Touring "Ole Blue"

Hey another kansas guy...Nice rig cant wait to see it come along,but one question? Are you talking choping the top?
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:09 PM   #4
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Here's some pictures of the work on the front suspension

One of the lower arms I fabbed up (I need to modify the ball joint plate and angle it up to keep the ball joint from binding )
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One of the upper arms jigged up, ready to weld
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I built the arms with the ball joints moved forward to center the front wheels in the wheel wells and I also set it up with increased caster (6* base) with the option to go +/-2* besides the normal adjustment available. I'm running 2.5" drop spindles with the 1.25" thick rotors and Wilwood D52 calipers (thanks Jon ) The way I mounted the steering box it actually raises the center drag link approximately 0.75" from the stock '84 front geometry, so I'm hoping I can juggle thing around to reduce bumpsteer as much as possible.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:12 PM   #5
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Hey another kansas guy...Nice rig cant wait to see it come along,but one question? Are you talking choping the top?
Actually no, I was referring to the 12" removed out of the front and 8" removed out of the rear of a long bed to make it a short bed I've always thought that the short beds were just a little too short, so I'm goint to go 9" in the front and 6" in the rear to make it proportional and hopefully look right to me
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:15 PM   #6
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Re: Project Pro Touring "Ole Blue"

OK I was wondering... What do you do for a living? Nice arms...
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:19 PM   #7
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OK I was wondering... What do you do for a living? Nice arms...
Well...I'm just a mechanic (over 10 years already ) but I love doing fab work in the evenings and I love the challenge as well. I'm excited about working on this project because it was actually my first car, so I've got a bit of a sentimental attachment to her too
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:24 PM   #8
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Subscribing to this one!!!
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:33 PM   #9
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Re: Project Pro Touring "Ole Blue"

You must have access to some nice tools...Those arms are pretty nice pieces. I used to be a mechanic also but got tired of leaning over working on things so started welding and never looked back. Ill be watching this one.
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Re: Project Pro Touring "Ole Blue"

Nice work! I have a question tho...did you weld that steering box to the frame?
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:38 PM   #11
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Nice work! I have a question tho...did you weld that steering box to the frame?
Looks like a pipe notch to me. I thought that too when I first seen it.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:41 PM   #12
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Thanks for all the comments, and no, I didn't weld the steering box to the frame. I used the lower rear bolt hole on the frame and figured the angle the box needed to be and made new holes for the power box. What you see in the picture is the backside of the notch I made to clear the box so I could mount it straight on the frame. I did that instead of buying an adapter plate because I wanted the idler arm and the pitman arm to be parallel when going straight.

As far as having nice equipment goes, I have the basic welder/grinders/etc, but I do have an awesome buddy that works at a metal fabrication shop building industrial equipment. All I have to do is draw something up (measured drawing) and tell him how thick of plate I want and he cuts it on there cnc plasma cutting table . It sure helps make things look so much more professional

I'll post up some pictures of the rear suspension tomorrow, and you can see some more of his work too.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:43 PM   #13
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Looks like a pipe notch to me. I thought that too when I first seen it.
Beat me to it I'm a slow typer.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:53 PM   #14
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A little more information:

The tires are 275/40ZR17 for the front and 315/35ZR17 for the rear. I'm planning on buying Billet Specialties Street Lites in 17x9.5 and 17x11 to go with those. To go with the Wilwood front brake calipers, I also bought a set for the rear too. I also bought a set of brake rotors (Astro van fronts, thanks Captainfab for the idea )

What the heck, here's a picture of the rearend with brakes on it and a teaser of my watts link setup

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Nice work mech77!! Love the mock-up shot; truck looks good and cant wait to see more.
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Thanks, I can't wait to get the cab off so I can cut the frame down and mock it up at the correct wheelbase
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Here is some pictures of the rear suspension almost done
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I'm not going to mount those brackets up until I get the cab off because I'm going to flip the crossmember to gain some driveshaft clearance when it's aired out
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Here's some better pictures of my watts link setup
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I'm thinking I might swap the 1/2" rod ends and links out for some 5/8" ones and I haven't machined the center pivot for the bearings yet.
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I like it!
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Finally... somebody building a watt's link like they are SUPPOSED to be set-up!!!!!

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Finally... somebody building a watt's link like they are SUPPOSED to be set-up!!!!!

Looks like a cool project!
Thanks porterbuilt, that means alot coming from you, I've been admiring your work for a while now Do you think the 1/2" rod ends and links are strong enough? I'm having trouble finding any good technical info on watts links. I've looked at quite a few other companies watts links and none actually list what size rod ends they use, but it looks like some of them use as big as 3/4" rod ends. I'm probably just being paranoid, but if one rod end breaks, I'm most likely going to crash I have enough material on my mounting points that I could upgrade to 5/8" rod ends, and I may do that to ease my mind
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Thanks porterbuilt, that means alot coming from you, I've been admiring your work for a while now Do you think the 1/2" rod ends and links are strong enough? I'm having trouble finding any good technical info on watts links. I've looked at quite a few other companies watts links and none actually list what size rod ends they use, but it looks like some of them use as big as 3/4" rod ends. I'm probably just being paranoid, but if one rod end breaks, I'm most likely going to crash I have enough material on my mounting points that I could upgrade to 5/8" rod ends, and I may do that to ease my mind
I would actually go with a 3/4 shank with a 5/8 bore... ONLY because that's the same rod end we use on a bunch of other applications. I would upgrdae from the 1/2 rod ends for peace of mind... 5/8 should be plenty strong.

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Old 03-05-2011, 04:08 PM   #23
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I finally got internet at home, so an update and some more pictures are coming....very soon
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Ok, here's an update for everyone....frame is now 9" shorter in the middle and 6" shorter on the rear. The suspension is all but done The only significant things left to do on the chassis are gusseting (sp?) the frame where I shortened it, build the support for the motor mounts, and triangualting the chassis to try and reduce torsional flex as much as possible.

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If anyone wants to see something better, just ask and I'll see what I can do
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One thing I forgot...I did upgrade the watts link rod ends to 5/8", it's hard to see in the pics.
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