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Old 01-24-2018, 11:51 PM   #1
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Re: Big Bird - 1972 Longhorn K30

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Old 01-25-2018, 12:45 PM   #2
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Re: Big Bird - 1972 Longhorn K30

Sahweet, good job!
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Old 01-28-2018, 07:03 PM   #3
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Re: Big Bird - 1972 Longhorn K30

I am looking for advice on pinion angle. Wondering if a 10 degree shim would get me in spec? Am I figuring angle right? As in the angle is 10 degrees to sharp. Also on the front drive shaft is a half inch of travel enough? As in if compressed 1/2-5/8 inch it would be bottomed out. By the looks of it I got lucky with driveshaft length in back. I will be running the original hanger bearing cross member for more support for frame and ease on driveshaft.
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Old 01-29-2018, 10:16 AM   #4
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Re: Big Bird - 1972 Longhorn K30

Take a look at this calculator and old video from Spicer it might help. http://spicerparts.com/calculators/d...gle-calculator We were able to run a 1 piece drive line but kept the same crossmember you have just incase the GVOD was a turd.

Have the same concern about our front driveline it's close and may need to be shortened before taking it off road. Without an add a leaf and the big block my front end is probably softer and it has not given us any trouble so far (rides like a caddy ).
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Re: Big Bird - 1972 Longhorn K30

A half inch doesn't sound like enough in the slip joint to me. Brett took care of the angle question.
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Old 01-30-2018, 10:48 AM   #6
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Re: Big Bird - 1972 Longhorn K30

I agree with Ryan and you could simulate the travel to know for sure (I'd be interested to hear what you might find?). More food for thought here is ours during mockup and a link to a stock (?) 72 K5 (forum member CCCC). http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...5&postcount=17
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Re: Big Bird - 1972 Longhorn K30

I generally like to have 1"-1.5" of travel on the front slip. But I also have 1k lb engines on the front end and the springs will move more than most normal trucks.

If that slip joint bottoms out it will be no good for the trans adapter or transfer case.
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Thanks guys for your input. I have been brainstorming the past few days and got half the drivetrain dialed in. As I was laying under the cab it dawned on me that the transfer case linkage might be different from '72 to '89. Well wouldn't yea know they are a little different that makes a lot of change. By using the '72 linkage I was able to move the engine, trans, and transfer case back a couple inches. That enabled me to get to the proper travel for the front driveshaft and aligners better in the high hump.
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Old 01-30-2018, 11:01 PM   #9
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By making those adjustments I still have more run then factory behind the motor and I will be able to run factory radiator pipe and fan shroud. That may be simple but it made my day. I took some pictures and measurements of cross member placements. For the engine cross member I measured from top piece to the top of the front frame cross member and bottom piece to bottom of front frame cross member. In thing to keep in mind is what you are working with. The transfer case linkage is a perfect example. Other things to consider is what engine, trans, and transfer case that you will be using. Don't forget about the trans to transfer case adapter. There are at least two different ones for this setup that I know of which will effect placement.
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Old 01-30-2018, 11:17 PM   #10
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Here is a closer picture of the trans to transfer case adapter. It's good and close to the floor. I didn't have the back shim in the body mount. Hopefully that will give some more lift. Also another picture of the transfer case linkage. I will have to also change out the other linkage piece. The hole is to big for the '72 linkage.
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:01 PM   #11
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Tonight I tore into the driveline. I cut off perches and got everything dialed in. One thing I noticed is the hanger bearing cross member is sloped downward. Not sure if they all have a slope but one thing to keep in mind. I didn't notice until I had things bolted together for test fitting. Also got the shock mount relocated.
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Re: Big Bird - 1972 Longhorn K30

It looks like you might need to knock the rivets out of the carrier bearing riser bracket and move it to the right a little too. It doesn't look to be straight from the tcase to the pinion by the way it looks.
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I was wondering about that whether it was ok or would have to be straight in line. I will have to shorten the rear driveshaft. There is little to no travel.
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Re: Big Bird - 1972 Longhorn K30

Looks great, good move on the front driveline plenty of travel now. Looks like the carrier cross member just needs to be squared up to the drivetrain centerline then square to the rails. Should be fine with a little adjustment, try a laser and good mounts, carrier bearing etc. when you do this you'll get the whole shebang nutz on! The rear section may kick over a little to mate to the off center 14b pinion.
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The past few days I got the perchs welded back on, painted and rear axle secured again. I was able to slide over the hanger bearing mount to get the driveline straightened out. Pulled power train and got all the holes drilled for all the cross members. Started clean power train.
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Today was spent cleaning up parts for paint. Finished cleaning the power train and got it primed. Then I tackled the front cross member. I ended up using the '80's style. Wasn't to bad just took some time and a few choice words.. The cross member is actually in backwards compared to the way it was in the K30 frame. I put the cross member in the way the original cross member was and attached the sway bar. Now that I now the position it had to be in I squared it up and got out the torch. With the torch and a good set of welding clamps I heated the edges and pulled top corners up to the frame. I started off with some lighter clamps and they just didn't have the torque. I them did the same for the bottom drivers side. It's doubled up there so you have to get it good and hot then crank er down. Don't forget like I did and remove the bottom bushing. Luckily I caught it in time but still got a little deformed. I then started on the passenger side and worked my way around drilling and bolts. Making sure everything stayed square. For reference the top holes ended up being 2" forward of the factory holes. That was enough fun for one day.
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Very nice work!
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This morning I painted the power train and sandblasted a bunch of miscellaneous pieces for moving forward. I then tried out my new powder coating gun. It went pretty well for the first time but I am learning a lot. I purchased a stove for $25 on Craigslist to cure the parts. Did three batches now I will be ready to drop the motor back in tomorrow. This afternoon I changed transmission fluid and filter. Also put a new oil pan gasket, oil filter, and fuel pump. Had to stop there because I need longer bolts for the motor mounts.
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I love the stance of Big Bird. Nice job! I will be keeping an eye as the build continues.
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Nathan, can you take a measurement for me on your frame rails. What is the height of the biggest spot on the frame behind the front cab mounts? Is it 8"? Thanks Trevor
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Nathan, can you take a measurement for me on your frame rails. What is the height of the biggest spot on the frame behind the front cab mounts? Is it 8"? Thanks Trevor
7 1/2" right behind front cab mount. 18" back it's 8"
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Looking nice! I really despise those 4x4 engine cross members. I'm doing a Longhorn C30 to K30 right now and i'm making a Napco inspired engine cross member for it. At least you went with the poly ones!
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fyi your front dana 60 needs to get rid of the 80's warn hubs and get the early used spicer hubs on it .

stronger and look more correct for this build .
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