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Old 04-12-2018, 11:27 PM   #26
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Re: 1970 C30 Car hauler Buildish thread.

Well my new vise came in today!

[IMG]IMAG1315 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Old Vs New!

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Because of how big it is I decided to mount it on the end of the work bench

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Just to really compare the two

[IMG]IMAG1331 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr[/IMG]

it's a Monster

[IMG]IMAG1333 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr[/IMG]

So back to the build I did not get nearly as much done to day as I had planned.

I cleaned up the dash and painted the inside to prevent rust.

[IMG]IMAG1324 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr[/IMG]

I also por15'ed the ends of the dash where its bolts in.

How ever as I went to install the dash I had forgotten to mount the hydraulic clutch master for the nv4500. So I wanted to wait to weld the dash in so it would make installing the clutch master easier. I was hoping to have the dash in and the cab seam sealed and primed today. But I was not able to scuff the por15 to prep it for primer as the scuff pads did not come into day. I tried sandpaper but it went through the por15 and that defeats the purpose of having it. So it will be next week it will go into primer.


I used an existing hole to for the steering column bracket to mount the clutch master.

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Old 04-14-2018, 12:07 AM   #27
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Re: 1970 C30 Car hauler Buildish thread.

I got the day off of work today, so I got a little more done.

I finished up the clutch master.

I drilled a taped the clutch pedal for its new linkage mounting location.

[IMG]IMAG1335 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr[/IMG]

I also got to use my new vice for the first time!

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I also welded in a nut for the clutch master upper mounting hole.

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Then I extended the linkage.

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Then I extended the linkage for the hydrobooster, I used the old adjustable linkage from the old power brake booster that was installed.

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So having been trying to come up with a way to mount a bunch of AUX switches for lights and all the other feachers I plan on adding as well as maybe a gauge or two. But I could not come up with a way to make them look good that and I did not want to drill a bunch of holes in the dash.

I came across this sexy beast a few months ago and I thought about doing something similar. It would give me the perfect amount of space to mount everything.



So I cut out the data sheet as I was planning on having a new one made any ways.

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I bolted the dash in for mockup.

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I was trying to decide if I wanted to angle it up or make it flush.

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I was going to weld it in but I decided to make it removable. So I put it in to the sheet metal brake.

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I welded two tabs in place.

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The I welded to nuts in place.

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I put the dash back in for the last time.

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Old 04-20-2018, 02:50 AM   #28
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Re: 1970 C30 Car hauler Buildish thread.

Weather has been nice this week. So I started tearing down the truck. I also got a few things done around the house.

My new glove box door came in the other day.

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I removed almost everything in the cab I will need to remove the front clip so I can access a bolt for the heater box.

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Anyone know what this is or what it does? I was on the coresupport drive side by the headlight.

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I found this under the gas tank. Its dated May 15, 1982 page 20 it looks like its part of a mag or news paper. The guy I bought the truck off of said he bought it off of a guy that used it to take his race cars to the track. That it was a ramp truck that was modified to a dovetail flatbed so he could put two race cars on it. I was not sure how he got two cars on it but if they where dragsters I could see it. Dragway 42 is in ohio and that is where I bought the truck.

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I also did this, Broke the knob off. Its cast aluminum so I don't know if it can be tig welded back on or not?

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Old 04-20-2018, 05:04 AM   #29
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Re: 1970 C30 Car hauler Buildish thread.

Jarrod,

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Old 04-20-2018, 08:06 AM   #30
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Re: 1970 C30 Car hauler Buildish thread.

Your under dash mod looks awesome!
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Old 04-20-2018, 06:44 PM   #31
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Re: 1970 C30 Car hauler Buildish thread.

That is exactly what I started doing for my 72 to house my air pressure gauge, switch, and other switches. I haven't finished mine yet. Great work on it. That black box on the core support is an external voltage regulator for the alternator. Someone must have installed an alt with an internal regulator in it.

That looks so much easier to work on the dash with it removable. I really like the big flat piece on your new vice. That would be great to have.
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Old 05-22-2018, 02:27 AM   #32
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If you will PM me your address I will send you the leaver you need.

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I just seen this. Is this still available?

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That is exactly what I started doing for my 72 to house my air pressure gauge, switch, and other switches. I haven't finished mine yet. Great work on it. That black box on the core support is an external voltage regulator for the alternator. Someone must have installed an alt with an internal regulator in it.

That looks so much easier to work on the dash with it removable. I really like the big flat piece on your new vice. That would be great to have.

I plan on doing the same with mine. I guess I will need to delete it as I plan on installing a high output alternator to run all the components I have planed on installing. I'm really happy I remembered to make the piece when I had the dash out. It would have been a pain to weld in the nuts with everything installed. But I suppose I could have used a rivnut/ nutsert.

So its been awhile since I have been on here. I keep getting side tracked. But I have made progress. Though not as much as I had hoped for. So I started work on the doors they were complete junk. The inner and outer part of the lower doors had been replaced. However they did a poor job and the started rusting out then they were filled with bondo and fiberglass. I was hoping to just re-replace the bottom of the door but I ended up having to replace the complete outer skin.

IMAG1399 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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Here is what I am working with.

IMAG1373 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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My new skins and inner lower panels came in the other week.

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My lower control arm U bolts also came in.

IMAG1439 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

Back to the doors.

IMAG1465 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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Lots of cutting, trimming, fitting and rust removal.

IMAG1469 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
IMAG1470 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

Cheap planes

IMAG1472 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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IMAG1476 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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Rusty metal primer on where the rust was and primer sealer on the clean metal and over the rusty metal primer.

[IMG]IMAG1478 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr[/IMG]

I installed some nutserts as the origenal nuts where missing when the panel was hacked up.

IMAG1480 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

Then I proceed to breaking my tool on the last one. I sent an email to smittybilt wanting to buy a replacement part for the tool and they sent me a compleat replacement free of charge!

IMAG1479 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

Anyways I undercoated the door inside.

IMAG1481 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr


Now on to door number 2.

IMAG1482 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
IMAG1483 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

I sprayed the inner door skins with primer sealer then undercoated them.

IMAG1495 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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I'm going to have to go back and cut drain holes in the other one as I believe that is what caused them to rust out to begin with well that and the way they where hacked togeather.

IMAG1504 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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So before I could seal up the doors and install the new skins I ended up buying some new toys!

Radius dimple dies and a hydro knockout punch set. Unfortunately the knockout punch set is in mm and not inche like it was listed on ebay. More on that later.

IMAG1511 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
IMAG1513 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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So back to the doors, Something I have wanted to do since I bought the truck.

IMAG1526 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
IMAG1527 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
IMAG1528 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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So it turns out the knockout punch set is in mm not inches and the dies are just a little to small. So I ended up having to ream them out with running a hole saw backwards not to rip the metal. Then I had to clean it up with a file then a dremel. So I only got one side done today and I had to order a new die in inches.

IMAG1532 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
IMAG1531 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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So now I get to wait till next week for the new die to come in.
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Old 05-24-2018, 02:09 AM   #33
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Re: 1970 C30 Car hauler Buildish thread.

Installed the passenger side door skin today!

Getting it ready

IMAG1538 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

I bought a skin zipper I don't what happened. I only used it for about a 3 minutes and it got super hot and started melting? Step 1 worked but I could not get step two too work. I had to hammer and dolly it the rest of the way flat. I don't know if it was the zipper or the dolly but I creased the bottom of the door.

IMAG1540 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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IMAG1539 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

I did a fitment test on the door. Everything is good except the very front lower corner it scrapes when the door is opened.

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Should I weld this tab on the door skin to the inner door? It's the piece under the vent window.

IMAG1548 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

Random painted parts.

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Yes the leavers are still yours. PM me your address. Cant wait to see it done.
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Old 05-25-2018, 12:50 PM   #35
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Thanks Wally. I just sent you a PM. I know I can not wait to see it done either. Hopefully I will start getting it ready for paint this coming week.

So yesterday I finished the driver side door.

IMAG1551 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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I hammered and dollied the skin on this side it turned out a lot better then the passenger side.

IMAG1555 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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Unfortunately I made a few dents with the clamps when I was clamping it down for the adhesive.

IMAG1560 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

This is the worst one and there is nothing I can do about it because I am clear coating over bare metal. That said I am leaving most of the rust holes and dents in the truck.

IMAG1561 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

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Soon

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Jarrod,

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Thanks again Wally! I can't wait to get them installed! But first I will need to strip off the paint on the chrome and paint the bracket.

IMAG1634 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
IMAG1635 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

So I have been slacking on the update again. That said I have started painting.

IMAG1569 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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For the inner roof I went with regel red. I was expecting it to be darker, not the red I was going for but it's too late now.

IMAG1585 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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I am bed lining the floor so I did not paint it.

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I dustless blasted the front crossmember.

IMAG1623 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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I started mocking up the front air bags

IMAG1649 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

I am definitely going to have to cup the arms I may have to modify the crossmember to fit the bags. But I am waiting on my new ball joints to come in before I move forward. I have no intention on slamming the truck I just have a lot of bag I need to fit. They are rated at 5000lbs each so 10k in front capacity way over kill.

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Well I went ahead and started on cupping my lower control arm. I went with a three inch cup as the bags only compress to about 4 inches and most bags used on c10 compress to about 2.5 inches and it looks like most of them use a 2 cup. I'm not planning on slamming it or any thing. I'm just trying to get the bag to operate efficiently. I assume when the bag is at rest or slightly compressed is where the bag is most effective? granted I know very little about air ride. I have measured my current ride height on the truck from the top of the lowering control arm to the bottom of the spring mount to be 6 inches. The bags at rest are 9 inches and with the 3 inch cups it will be at the stock ride height of 6 inches. The bags max height is 12.5 inches so I can lift the truck 3.5 inches and lower it about 5 inches.

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The mounting points are wider than normal bags that and the mounting points needed to be moved over so I milled some new slots and moved the hole over.

IMAG1701 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr
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This is it at 6 inches.

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Kind of a Big yet small update! Good news/ Bad news....

I will start with the small. Unfortunately I did not get the truck painted yet. I messed up my back the other week. I had a slipped disc pinching nerve so I was unable to do anything. I'm still not at 100% but I need to get the truck finished. So I started doing some light duty stuff. So I painted some suspension components. I decided to try hammerite braind paint. I was looking for something chip resistant yet cost effective. Hopefully this stuff holds up.

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I also sprayed some bed liner on the cab floor.

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So yesterday I decided I had rested enough but I probably should had rested a little while longer. So anyways I started on my flip front end conversion lol not really.

IMAG1718 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

I found this when I removed the front end.

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I removed the headers starter motor, trans mount bolts and drive shaft bolts.

IMAG1723 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

I pulled the engine

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I had to jack the cab up to clear the trans.

IMAG1727 by jarrod vanwinkle, on Flickr

I proceed to build a engine test staind...

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So why a engine test stand? Well some of you have see a Thread I created trying to decide and if I should convert my engine to EFI using the holley sniper system then turboing it down the road. Or swapping in a diesel engine. I was considering a 6.2 and turboing it as I can get a low mileage one for cheap. My other diesel option was a first gen Cummins with 270K that I cannot really afford but would be the most reliable out of the three options and get the best gas mileage out of the three, and would surprisingly cost less then the turbo EFI... Any ways I have been doing research on mainly the turbo efi and the 6.2 and a little on the cummins swap for a few months now and after reading thread after thread on the 6.2 and 6.5 engine destroying themselves I decided not to go with the 6.2.

So there I was its 4:30 am I can't sleep my back is killing me. I get on my laptop I can't stop thinking about what I should do. I need to finish the truck. The EFI turbo would cost more then a cumming swap but if I do the efi conversion first then turbo it down the road It wouldn't hurt my pockets as much at once. So I took some more medicine (by the way the side effects are super scary I stopped taking it last week after I looked up the side effects. they went something like this cannot drive or operate machinery, cannot consume alcohol, may cause dizziness, and (impaired judgment I think this one got me) may cause Death!) So anyways it's now 5 something and I just bought the cummins on ebay using paypal credit.

Here is a video of the engine running. The engine should be here monday or tuesday!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NunQ...ature=youtu.be

So back to the engine test stand I need to sell this engine to help pay for the swap. I figure a 1970 350 4 bolt main with 86k original miles should go for $550 maybe even $650 running on a engine test staind. The test stand may even help it sell faster as the can see that it runs I thought to myself. (On a side note if you noticed the engine test stand is made out of the channel that came with the truck that was used as the stakes in the first photo in the thread.) Well it turns out after I got it on the stand and start cleaning it up I notice the block is black and it looks to be original paint. I know the valve cover had been repainted blue as there was some orange paint under the blue. But it really started to bug me that the block was black and not orange. So I cleaned off the casting number and it says 14010 201 So looked up the numbers and wouldn't you know it its a 305. A 80-85 305 car & Truck 2-bolt Passenger stick. So I suppose everything happens for a reason. I am happy I ordered the cummins and not the efi system. I would have been pisst If I order the efi and started to turbo it and spent all that time and money to find out it was a 305.

So now I am trying to find as much info as I can on my swap.

This is my list so far.

I will build my own engine and trans mounts.

I will use the AA NV500 adapter for the first gen cummins.

I will swap the input shaft for the cummins shaft. But I will have to have the new input shaft retainer turned down on a lath as I have the 1995 trans. it has the correct gearing but the case is the old style.

The drive shaft has to be shortened but it was going to have to be anyways.

All new seals in the engine. I will probably rebuild the pump and turbo. I also have a Hx35 I may swap out.

I still need to do research on the gas pedal/ linkage.

I would like to install some kind of air shutdown/ off valve. As the first gens are known to runway. I wonder If I could use a exhaust cut out valve as a air shut off valve?

Can I use the stock radiator?

I will need to buy a intercooler and piping.

I will need to install a fuel return of some kind. Does a 72 fuel sending unit ue the same oms for the fuel gauge? I would also like to add a 50 gallon saddle tank as well.

What power steering lines will I need to use for the hydro boost?

Is the alternator internally regulated?

I will also replace the water pump.

Do the killer dowel pin fix.

Route the exhaust.

Also does anyone know if I can use a second gen cummins flywheel with the first gen engine adapter and starter?

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Nice work. I like the dimple die holes on the doors. Where else are you putting them? How about the leading edge of the hood? I spy a LWB P-Car on a rotisserie. What's up with that?
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Nice work. I like the dimple die holes on the doors. Where else are you putting them? How about the leading edge of the hood? I spy a LWB P-Car on a rotisserie. What's up with that?
Thanks! I like how they turned out. What do you mean by leading edge? The very front of the hood where the emblem is? I don't think you can get a die in there. I have thought about doing a row on both sides of the center line down the hood kinda like this but closer to the center line. But I would have to make some kind of rain drainage catch under it and I just don't know if I want to do that.



As far as the 911 it's my long term project. It's a 83 targa that I am converting to a Midengine RSR Backdated coupe. It has 05 911 C2 front suspension 01 boxster rear unibody section and rear suspension. The hubs are almost flush with the stock rs sized fenders. So I am going to probably have to make some RWB or wider flares to tuck the wheels.

Here is a link to the build.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...d-find-12.html


Anyways sorry I have been slacking on the updates.

I suppose it is time for a photo dump.

Well I Picked up the engine from fedex the other week!

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I stopped by harbor freight on the way home a picked up a new engine stand rated at 1 ton. Along with a few other things.

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I also killed my engine hoist... well it blew out an O ring.

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Then the next day, I had to drive a hour and a half to my closest fastenal for a set of bolts, because the cummins engine uses metric and they were the only ones that had that size of bolts in stock.

Anyways I got it on the stand.

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I popped one of the valve covers off to see what kind of condition the engine was in and to see how well it was taken of, and to see if there was any build up for lack of oil changes, and it's super clean under the valve cover. But only time will tell when I start getting into it.

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So I finished up the engine test stand and sold it, the engine and trans.

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I quick video of it running.

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Back to paint prep. I got the doors down to bare metal.

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I was going to have the brushed marks going down the side of the truck horizontally but with the body lines it looks better going vertically.

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Getting ready for clear coat.

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And some clear!

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My bell housing came in yesterday!

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Test fit!

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I have a 95 GM NV4500 so the lower two bolt holes are wrong and I will have to have the input shaft retainer turned down to fit the trans. But the 95 GM uses the same gearing as the dodge so I won't have to swap the gears out.

So I bolted the two bellhousings together and drilled out the lower two holes.

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Then I taped the new holes.

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So I may have messed up. I probably should have bought a dodge Nv4500 bellhousing instead of the adapter housing. And bought the engine adapter and starter. As I can not find a clutch fork as the adapter bellhousing I bought you are supposed to use the Getrag 360 clutch fork and it is pretty much impossible to find one and the last listing I found for one for sale was $400 for one. So if anyone knows where one is for less then a $100 let me know. So my plan for now is to cut up the chevy one and see if I can make it work.
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Cab and doors are Painted!

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Very nice work on the cab and paint work! I love what you're doing with it! Nice choice on the intercooled VE! I don't know where you read or heard that these like to run away but I have to call BS on that. Now, if the turbo starts blowing oil out of the compressor side, it could run a way. But it is not a common thing on them. As far as the flywheel, you'd probably still use a 1st gen flywheel. I am not sure as I never used that adapter. For a clutch fork call this guy and see if he has one. Mark 402-780-5127. If he doesn't have one, he probably can find one.

The alternator and ac were operated by the computer on the first gens. You can get a 1 wire alternator for these, or use a mid 90s Ford F250 external voltage regulator. I have some info in the Diesel conversion section of this site on them.

I think I remember you put a newer steering box on this truck? If so you can use the lines from a square body with a hydroboost. You will have to tweak them to fit nice in there but they work.

If I was you I'd get a 2nd gen radiator and intercooler and modify your radiator support to fit them in. I used a stock 4 core BBC radiator in my 72 and I will be putting a 2nd gen dodge one in eventually. My truck will run warm when hauling 5th wheels. Hauling 20k open trailers it is fine. But that wind resistance makes it work more and my engine isn't stock so that doesn't help either.
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Very nice work on the cab and paint work! I love what you're doing with it! Nice choice on the intercooled VE! I don't know where you read or heard that these like to run away but I have to call BS on that. Now, if the turbo starts blowing oil out of the compressor side, it could run a way. But it is not a common thing on them. As far as the flywheel, you'd probably still use a 1st gen flywheel. I am not sure as I never used that adapter. For a clutch fork call this guy and see if he has one. Mark 402-780-5127. If he doesn't have one, he probably can find one.

The alternator and ac were operated by the computer on the first gens. You can get a 1 wire alternator for these, or use a mid 90s Ford F250 external voltage regulator. I have some info in the Diesel conversion section of this site on them.

I think I remember you put a newer steering box on this truck? If so you can use the lines from a square body with a hydroboost. You will have to tweak them to fit nice in there but they work.

If I was you I'd get a 2nd gen radiator and intercooler and modify your radiator support to fit them in. I used a stock 4 core BBC radiator in my 72 and I will be putting a 2nd gen dodge one in eventually. My truck will run warm when hauling 5th wheels. Hauling 20k open trailers it is fine. But that wind resistance makes it work more and my engine isn't stock so that doesn't help either.
Thanks I'm happy with how the cab came out. I have seen a few threads on cummins forum talking about it running away and I have seen a few videos as well. As far as the flywheel I went with the second gen So I can go with a second gen clutch. I ended up buying a bellhousing with a clutch fork. I also found a 1 wire alternator conversion kit to convert the stock alternator to one wire. Yes I have the newer steering box but I will have to buy the lines. I'll look into getting a 2nd gen radiator and intercooler as my core support need a lot of work anyways.



Sorry it been such a long time since I have made an update. Back in september I messed my back up at work. I was in the hospital for a week and had to use a wheelchair for a month. I still not 100% I can't say standing for very long or lift anything heavy. I have a damaged disk in my back. I'm weight on insurance to approve a shot. So I can't really do to much at the moment.

So here are some pics of stuff that I had got done be for I got hurt.

I got the front of the frame painted.

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Some steel for my headache rack

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Its 5'' 1/4 box

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I removed the side box and the inner box nightmare thing.

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I started on the headache rack

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Water pump, thermostat and seals for the cummins

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I got new seals for the doors

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Installed the headache rack

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two receiver mounts so I can make a removable roof rack

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So now we are back to present time.

Last week I installed the rear window in the cab.

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Today I painted the headache rack, just so we're clear I did not paint over rust I had a friend help me wire wheel and frimer all that is painted. I just can't do much right now so I only did a little bit that way I can get the cab on the frame and out of the garage.

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