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**DeadheadNM** · 02-19-2021, 01:41 PM

Great thanks for sharing that. Almost certainly that VIN plate in question is bogus. Good to know that bogus VIN plates are popping up. Buyer beware.

K5Fan · 02-20-2021, 07:50 AM

Hey Pete, is the VIN matching up with the Title and vehicle, or are you just trying to make sure it is the original plate that came with the vehicle?

Chris

**Rich72C10** · 02-20-2021, 08:38 AM

Here is mine C10 72 ....

**DeadheadNM** · 02-20-2021, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by K5Fan

Hey Pete, is the VIN matching up with the Title and vehicle, or are you just trying to make sure it is the original plate that came with the vehicle?

Chris

Just curious if it was the original plate for the truck. Since the truck is a 72 model I don’t see how that VIN plate is anything other than a reproduction.

**DeadheadNM** · 03-03-2021, 11:06 PM

“The seller notes that reproduction serial-number tags were affixed to the driver-side door jamb after the primary photo shoot.”

Looks like fraudulent VIN plates are indeed appearing: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...c10-pickup-42/

Is the pillar vent in a correct location? Looks off center.

**402Bowtie** · 03-03-2021, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

“The seller notes that reproduction serial-number tags were affixed to the driver-side door jamb after the primary photo shoot.”

Looks like fraudulent VIN plates are indeed appearing: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...c10-pickup-42/

Is the pillar vent in a correct location? Looks off center.

The vent looks offset to me. The build month on the reproduction door jamb sticker doesn't line up with the serial number either according to build date thread :
https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=815033

57taskforce · 03-03-2021, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 402Bowtie

The vent looks offset to me. The build month on the reproduction door jamb sticker doesn't line up with the serial number either according to build date thread :
https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=815033

Lol I started that thread(wasnt solely my idea, credit where it is due to YOU especially for your contributions, and everyone who has contributed) and didn’t even think to check my own database, kudos that’s a great observation. The vent placement looks very similar to my legit 72. This is going to make finding legit trucks that much more difficult going forward.

I’m glad the build date project is able to pay some dividends like this, It never occurred to me that it might be able to help spot fraudulent trucks.

K5Fan · 03-04-2021, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

“The seller notes that reproduction serial-number tags were affixed to the driver-side door jamb after the primary photo shoot.”

Looks like fraudulent VIN plates are indeed appearing: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...c10-pickup-42/

Is the pillar vent in a correct location? Looks off center.

So to be clear, your not worried about the VIN being correct for the vehicle or Title, just if it is a reproduction VIN Plate, right? Send me a PM.

Chris

**DeadheadNM** · 03-04-2021, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by K5Fan

So to be clear, your not worried about the VIN being correct for the vehicle or Title, just if it is a reproduction VIN Plate, right? Send me a PM.

Chris

I’m merely drawing attention to the reproduced VIN plate. John’s observation is astute and important as well and reinforces the utility of the build date project that Tyler and others have worked on.

There are several other issues with this pickup that others can hash out w the seller on BAT if they so choose.

**Chevyland** · 03-04-2021, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

“The seller notes that reproduction serial-number tags were affixed to the driver-side door jamb after the primary photo shoot.”

Looks like fraudulent VIN plates are indeed appearing: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...c10-pickup-42/

Is the pillar vent in a correct location? Looks off center.

Pete, I haven’t been following to closely, But

To me
That just looks like a built truck
All the tags are made up
Why try to hide anything
It’s a converted k10
From a c10 with big block
Big money truck from people who don’t care
(Or don’t know the difference)
A turn off for purists

**j_cst_10** · 03-04-2021, 10:28 AM

Very informative thread. This is really something that never crossed my mind. I guess THAT'S the reason I buy cheap junky stuff, there's no reason to forge any of it!

**Grumpy old man** · 03-04-2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by j_cst_10

Very informative thread. This is really something that never crossed my mind. I guess THAT'S the reason I buy cheap junky stuff, there's no reason to forge any of it!

That's true ! the new to the hobby guy's that go to a "classic dealer " and buy a junk yard LS swapped , cut down frame truck because someone slapped a shiny paint job on it are the guy's I feel bad for . Maybe threads like this will help them find the right truck they are looking for before they spend big money on junk .

**DeadheadNM** · 03-04-2021, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevyland

Pete, I haven’t been following to closely, But

To me
That just looks like a built truck
All the tags are made up
Why try to hide anything
It’s a converted k10
From a c10 with big block
Big money truck from people who don’t care
(Or don’t know the difference)
A turn off for purists

Agree. At least the seller has disclosed the reproduced VIN plate. My intent is only to raise awareness that reproduction VIN plates are being used.

**Ol Blue K20** · 03-04-2021, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

Agree. At least the seller has disclosed the reproduced VIN plate. My intent is only to raise awareness that reproduction VIN plates are being used.

I don't understand how repop could legal to use. That disclosure would sure scare me away!

57taskforce · 03-04-2021, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20

I don't understand how repop could legal to use. That disclosure would sure scare me away!

Look at the pictures of the frame chop closely, That will probably scare you way more than the vin tag... I’m not a fan of making the cut at the front spring hanger, there’s the potential for a lot of load right there, sure fish plates help but I’m still not a fan. I wouldn’t buy it on that detail alone. The bucket seats appear to be mounted with bolts and washers at the rear. Hard to tell for sure on the seat mounts though. At first I was speculating this might be a converted 2wd frame but it’s a long bed 4x4 frame, front spring hangers are riveted. It may be a big money build but there’s still several things that drive me nuts about it.

**MJN** · 03-04-2021, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

“The seller notes that reproduction serial-number tags were affixed to the driver-side door jamb after the primary photo shoot.”

Looks like fraudulent VIN plates are indeed appearing: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...c10-pickup-42/

Is the pillar vent in a correct location? Looks off center.

One thing that stands out to me about this one is the GMC Truck & Coach VIN plate with a Chevrolet VIN and all Chevy badging.

CG · 03-04-2021, 09:42 PM

My 71 vin and vent never been touched (I have an NOS vent to replace it).

**Ol Blue K20** · 03-04-2021, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CG

My 71 vin and vent never been touched (I have an NOS vent to replace it).

My vent matches CG's. At first I thought it was centered until I looked at it. Thus as usual I was wrong.....

**DeadheadNM** · 03-04-2021, 11:40 PM

I guess I never paid attention

**DeadheadNM** · 03-09-2021, 02:21 PM

As an aside, I cannot believe how many trucks I've seen on BAT with non-OE style pop rivets affixing the VIN. It's almost the exception to see OEM style rivets. There's one live right now that has a mix of OE and non-OE rivets.

**dagnabbitt** · 03-10-2021, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

As an aside, I cannot believe how many trucks I've seen on BAT with non-OE style pop rivets affixing the VIN. It's almost the exception to see OEM style rivets. There's one live right now that has a mix of OE and non-OE rivets.

That's crazy to me, BAT should probably know better. Mind you, they don't seem to know much about our trucks except that they bring money when they look nice.

tcoop68 · 03-12-2021, 12:46 AM

By the looks of those rivets they look like factory they are star shaped instead of round I would say that’s a original plate.

**MJN** · 03-12-2021, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tcoop68

By the looks of those rivets they look like factory they are star shaped instead of round I would say that’s a original plate.

Not always a good indicator these days any more as there are sources for rosette style rivets that look like factory.

**DeadheadNM** · 03-12-2021, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tcoop68

By the looks of those rivets they look like factory they are star shaped instead of round I would say that’s a original plate.

The VIN plate in the original post is a style only seen on 1970 model pickups and therefore has to be assumed to be bogus.

02-19-2021, 01:41 PM	#26
DeadheadNM Carpe manana Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 12,278	Re: Is this VIN plate original? Great thanks for sharing that. Almost certainly that VIN plate in question is bogus. Good to know that bogus VIN plates are popping up. Buyer beware. __________________ 1972 K5 CST Highlander Blazer: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=708547 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=528308 Members met: ORANGBLAZ, 2003 silverado, MikeCofield, BB72CHEVKT, Duncan&Son, Sameyrasmea72, THENEWMEXICAN, HotRod C/10, brianthelion02, Sport/Truck, ryanroo, michael bustamante, Dirt's72, Already Gone, WestButteTruck, 57taskforce, Moreyel, painterljp, AASmedic, SoCoC10, Lumaestas, carbuff382, Chevyland

02-20-2021, 07:50 AM	#27
K5Fan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Charleston SC Posts: 65	Re: Is this VIN plate original? Hey Pete, is the VIN matching up with the Title and vehicle, or are you just trying to make sure it is the original plate that came with the vehicle? Chris

02-20-2021, 08:38 AM	#28
Rich72C10 Mr. Cheyenne Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Kyle, Texas Posts: 1,643	Re: Is this VIN plate original? Here is mine C10 72 .... Attached Images __________________ Richard *'72 Chevy C10 Cheyenne Super WHT/MED BRONZE/WHT SBC 350 \| TH350 \| LWB \| AC \| Buddy Seats Upgrades:** Tilt \| Front Sway Bar \| Radio \| Sliding Window \| Bed Spare w/Lock Bed Rails \| Full LEDs \| Courtesy Lights \| Tachometer \| Glovebox Lock & Light \| Head Light Relays \| *Upgraded Fully Super Trim

03-03-2021, 11:06 PM	#30
DeadheadNM Carpe manana Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 12,278	Re: Is this VIN plate original? “The seller notes that reproduction serial-number tags were affixed to the driver-side door jamb after the primary photo shoot.” Looks like fraudulent VIN plates are indeed appearing: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...c10-pickup-42/ Is the pillar vent in a correct location? Looks off center. Attached Images __________________ 1972 K5 CST Highlander Blazer: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=708547 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=528308 Members met: ORANGBLAZ, 2003 silverado, MikeCofield, BB72CHEVKT, Duncan&Son, Sameyrasmea72, THENEWMEXICAN, HotRod C/10, brianthelion02, Sport/Truck, ryanroo, michael bustamante, Dirt's72, Already Gone, WestButteTruck, 57taskforce, Moreyel, painterljp, AASmedic, SoCoC10, Lumaestas, carbuff382, Chevyland

03-04-2021, 10:28 AM	#36
j_cst_10 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 575	Re: Is this VIN plate original? Very informative thread. This is really something that never crossed my mind. I guess THAT'S the reason I buy cheap junky stuff, there's no reason to forge any of it! __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 Custom Camper 12 Valve Cummins/5spd manual 1972 Cheyenne Super Short Bed 557 Med Olive DK olive 1970 K5 Blazer Dark Gold 1966 Coronet 440 35k mile survivor 1991 Suburban 2500 454/4L80E 2wd 1985 Monte Carlo SS 383 Sbc, t-56 magnum 6spd and Ford 9"

03-04-2021, 09:42 PM	#42
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Monroe, Wa. Posts: 19,769	Re: Is this VIN plate original? My 71 vin and vent never been touched (I have an NOS vent to replace it). Attached Images __________________ … … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … … Monroe Swap meet May 18-19. Mike has the same spots for the NW guys he's had forever. Lunch time BBQ at the spaces. If you have stuff to sell bring it along. If you have a question PM stllookn (Mike) here via the board. https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=851291

03-04-2021, 11:40 PM	#44
DeadheadNM Carpe manana Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 12,278	Re: Is this VIN plate original? I guess I never paid attention __________________ 1972 K5 CST Highlander Blazer: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=708547 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=528308 Members met: ORANGBLAZ, 2003 silverado, MikeCofield, BB72CHEVKT, Duncan&Son, Sameyrasmea72, THENEWMEXICAN, HotRod C/10, brianthelion02, Sport/Truck, ryanroo, michael bustamante, Dirt's72, Already Gone, WestButteTruck, 57taskforce, Moreyel, painterljp, AASmedic, SoCoC10, Lumaestas, carbuff382, Chevyland

03-09-2021, 02:21 PM	#45
DeadheadNM Carpe manana Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 12,278	Re: Is this VIN plate original? As an aside, I cannot believe how many trucks I've seen on BAT with non-OE style pop rivets affixing the VIN. It's almost the exception to see OEM style rivets. There's one live right now that has a mix of OE and non-OE rivets. __________________ 1972 K5 CST Highlander Blazer: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=708547 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=528308 Members met: ORANGBLAZ, 2003 silverado, MikeCofield, BB72CHEVKT, Duncan&Son, Sameyrasmea72, THENEWMEXICAN, HotRod C/10, brianthelion02, Sport/Truck, ryanroo, michael bustamante, Dirt's72, Already Gone, WestButteTruck, 57taskforce, Moreyel, painterljp, AASmedic, SoCoC10, Lumaestas, carbuff382, Chevyland

03-12-2021, 12:46 AM	#47
tcoop68 tcoop68 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cushing Oklahoma Posts: 226	Re: Is this VIN plate original? By the looks of those rivets they look like factory they are star shaped instead of round I would say that’s a original plate.



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