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fleetside86dually · 07-01-2009, 12:42 PM

Hi guys , I just picked up this beauty for a steal . Looking for any info that anyone has . It is a Chevrolet c30 3+3 Dually , only it has a fleetside bed with a narrower rear axle . I brought it to a mechanic who says it is a factory build but I cannot find out if this is true or not . Can anyone help ?

Keith Seymore · 07-02-2009, 08:30 AM

No, it is not factory built.

The narrower dual wheel axle was used on Cab Chassis models. Cab chassis were essentially pickups built with no box, so that the owner could install a flatbed or high cube compartment on the back.

So - it would be relatively easy to install a cab chassis axle in a fleetside pickup - or - to install a pickup box on a cab chassis - but a narrow axle dually pickup was not a factory option.

K

Keith Seymore · 07-02-2009, 08:34 AM

Incidently, the creation of the dually pickup was essentially a "joke", or a "lark".

We used to employ "chase trucks" when we would take Engineering road trips out west. These trucks would follow the test vehicles being evaluated, bringing tools or supplies along the way.

Back in the early 70's, as sort of a joke, some of the development engineers stuck a dual rear wheel axle under a pickup and installed a camper, creating a mobile break room. During the course of the trip they noticed it handled so well in the mountains and on curvy roads that eventually, as more upper managers had an opportunity to drive it, the "Dooley" was approved as a factory model.

FWIW -

K

JohnC · 07-02-2009, 08:43 AM

I love it when former GM employees pop in and share their knowledge. It makes the rest of us more knowledgeable.

East End K5 · 07-02-2009, 09:21 AM

wow keith, awesome..........

**N2TRUX** · 07-02-2009, 10:30 AM

Once again, a very interesting bit of GM trivia. Keep the stories coming Keith.

*C-10 simplex* · 07-02-2009, 11:57 AM

So, did GM "invent" the dual rear wheeled pickup?

fleetside86dually · 07-02-2009, 03:46 PM

Thank you for the info . This truck has been baffleing my friends and I . I found it on the side of the road for $3000. As soon as I saw her I knew she was going to be mine . She only had 155,000 on her when I got her and the interior , although faded some , was so clean I could eat off it . No one has even smoked in her . I need to do a little work to her but she already gets 13 MPG and I haven't even changed the plugs yet .

dan76 · 07-03-2009, 10:58 AM

Is it a BBC? Great find...thanks for sharing.

fleetside86dually · 07-03-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dan76

Is it a BBC? Great find...thanks for sharing.

BBC ?
what is that? sorry , In not too acronym friendly

fleetside86dually · 07-03-2009, 11:38 AM

I was talking to a friend who worked for GM in the mid 80s and he was saying they did send out a bunch of these to have this done

glock35ipsc · 07-03-2009, 11:44 AM

BBC = big block chevy engine

Very cool truck with a very unique look! I would roll in it any day!

**N2TRUX** · 07-03-2009, 04:38 PM

What did they use for wheel tubs? That's got me curious.

DBLSPRT68 · 07-05-2009, 02:25 AM

Post more pics of this truck please!

fleetside86dually · 07-05-2009, 10:55 AM

i will post more in a few days , I ve got to clean and detail anyway so I want her to look good in the pics

dan76 · 07-05-2009, 11:22 AM

As previously stated BBC is Big Block Chevy engine, in this year group a 454. SBC is a Small Block Chevy engine.

I'm interested as others in pics of the differrential cover.

fleetside86dually · 07-05-2009, 11:32 AM

This truck has a 350 high output.
As of right now there is way too much not needed stuff on the motor . Smog pump ..... etc . The usual non - essentials for the year . Hopefully if all this rain stoppes I can get back to work and get started on breaking it down. I will take more pics and post them this week including motor pics , differential , and more . Thanks again for posting . It is really cool sharing such a unique truck . I have beeen a Chevy fan all my life and I finally got the truck Ive always wanted

low80c10 · 10-29-2009, 07:42 PM

any updates on this

Pyrotechnic · 10-29-2009, 07:56 PM

Yeah I'd like to see some pics. I'm also wondering if the inner tires clear the wheel tubs in the bed or if it was mini tubbed to accommodate ?

Kinda reminds me of how Dodge did their duallies in the 70's to early 90's.

07-01-2009, 12:42 PM	#1
fleetside86dually Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Woonsocket, RI Posts: 36	My New Truck Hi guys , I just picked up this beauty for a steal . Looking for any info that anyone has . It is a Chevrolet c30 3+3 Dually , only it has a fleetside bed with a narrower rear axle . I brought it to a mechanic who says it is a factory build but I cannot find out if this is true or not . Can anyone help ? Last edited by N2TRUX; 07-02-2009 at 10:28 AM.

07-02-2009, 08:30 AM	#2
Keith Seymore Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Motor City Posts: 9,147	Re: My New Truck No, it is not factory built. The narrower dual wheel axle was used on Cab Chassis models. Cab chassis were essentially pickups built with no box, so that the owner could install a flatbed or high cube compartment on the back. So - it would be relatively easy to install a cab chassis axle in a fleetside pickup - or - to install a pickup box on a cab chassis - but a narrow axle dually pickup was not a factory option. K __________________ Chevrolet Flint Assembly 1979-1986 GM Full Size Truck Engineering 1986 - 2019 Intro from an Old Assembly Guy: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 My Pontiac story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 Chevelle intro: http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/

07-02-2009, 08:34 AM	#3
Keith Seymore Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Motor City Posts: 9,147	Re: My New Truck Incidently, the creation of the dually pickup was essentially a "joke", or a "lark". We used to employ "chase trucks" when we would take Engineering road trips out west. These trucks would follow the test vehicles being evaluated, bringing tools or supplies along the way. Back in the early 70's, as sort of a joke, some of the development engineers stuck a dual rear wheel axle under a pickup and installed a camper, creating a mobile break room. During the course of the trip they noticed it handled so well in the mountains and on curvy roads that eventually, as more upper managers had an opportunity to drive it, the "Dooley" was approved as a factory model. FWIW - K __________________ Chevrolet Flint Assembly 1979-1986 GM Full Size Truck Engineering 1986 - 2019 Intro from an Old Assembly Guy: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 My Pontiac story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 Chevelle intro: http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/ Last edited by Keith Seymore; 07-02-2009 at 08:36 AM.

07-02-2009, 08:43 AM	#4
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: My New Truck I love it when former GM employees pop in and share their knowledge. It makes the rest of us more knowledgeable.

07-02-2009, 09:21 AM	#5
East End K5 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 293	Re: My New Truck wow keith, awesome.......... __________________ I feel sorry for people who don't drink....because when they wake up in the morning, that's the best they're gonna feel all day long!---Frank Sinatra RIP [B]1972 Chevrolet K5 Blazer RIP 1986 GMC Sierra K3500 1TON, Long Box, V8350 RIP 1980 Chevy Silverado C30 Cab and Chassis, 454 TH400HD. RIP [B] 1995 Chevrolet Tahoe 2D [B]

07-02-2009, 10:30 AM	#6
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,023	Re: My New Truck Once again, a very interesting bit of GM trivia. Keep the stories coming Keith. __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

07-02-2009, 11:57 AM	#7
C-10 simplex Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: indisclosed Posts: 1,515	Re: My New Truck So, did GM "invent" the dual rear wheeled pickup?

07-02-2009, 03:46 PM	#8
fleetside86dually Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Woonsocket, RI Posts: 36	Re: My New Truck Thank you for the info . This truck has been baffleing my friends and I . I found it on the side of the road for $3000. As soon as I saw her I knew she was going to be mine . She only had 155,000 on her when I got her and the interior , although faded some , was so clean I could eat off it . No one has even smoked in her . I need to do a little work to her but she already gets 13 MPG and I haven't even changed the plugs yet .

07-03-2009, 10:58 AM	#9
dan76 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Salt Lake City UT Posts: 441	Re: My New Truck Is it a BBC? Great find...thanks for sharing.

07-03-2009, 11:38 AM	#11
fleetside86dually Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Woonsocket, RI Posts: 36	Re: My New Truck I was talking to a friend who worked for GM in the mid 80s and he was saying they did send out a bunch of these to have this done

07-03-2009, 11:44 AM	#12
glock35ipsc Next project: 1970 K10 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524 Posts: 6,685	Re: My New Truck BBC = big block chevy engine Very cool truck with a very unique look! I would roll in it any day! __________________ *Bob* 1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 *next project!!* 1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET! CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE

07-03-2009, 04:38 PM	#13
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,023	Re: My New Truck What did they use for wheel tubs? That's got me curious. __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

07-05-2009, 02:25 AM	#14
DBLSPRT68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Ft. Mill, SC USA Posts: 931	Re: My New Truck Post more pics of this truck please! __________________ PROJECT TRUCK: 1985 SWB C10 Silverado Black/Charcoal, 1990 V2500 Suburban, 2018 Suburban, 2005 GMC 2500HD CCSB, 2014 Toyota Camry SE, HAD.....1968 Camaro RS/SS Family owned since new; 350 3 speed SOLD

07-05-2009, 10:55 AM	#15
fleetside86dually Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Woonsocket, RI Posts: 36	Re: My New Truck i will post more in a few days , I ve got to clean and detail anyway so I want her to look good in the pics

07-05-2009, 11:22 AM	#16
dan76 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Salt Lake City UT Posts: 441	Re: My New Truck As previously stated BBC is Big Block Chevy engine, in this year group a 454. SBC is a Small Block Chevy engine. I'm interested as others in pics of the differrential cover.



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07-05-2009, 11:32 AM	#17
fleetside86dually Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Woonsocket, RI Posts: 36	Re: My New Truck This truck has a 350 high output. As of right now there is way too much not needed stuff on the motor . Smog pump ..... etc . The usual non - essentials for the year . Hopefully if all this rain stoppes I can get back to work and get started on breaking it down. I will take more pics and post them this week including motor pics , differential , and more . Thanks again for posting . It is really cool sharing such a unique truck . I have beeen a Chevy fan all my life and I finally got the truck Ive always wanted

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10-29-2009, 07:56 PM	#19
Pyrotechnic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,930	Re: My New Truck Yeah I'd like to see some pics. I'm also wondering if the inner tires clear the wheel tubs in the bed or if it was mini tubbed to accommodate ? Kinda reminds me of how Dodge did their duallies in the 70's to early 90's. __________________ 1977 GMC Sierra Grande

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