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dubie · 02-01-2005, 01:58 PM

I would like to know if you have any pics of your front clip that you welded in. I have been fairly unsuccessful in finding good pics of this mod on the net. We are in the tear down part of the wife 58 short fleet GMC and it already has a Nova clip welded in. You can see pics of it in the ugly IFS post I made further down the page. Any info and/or pics you can provide would be very much appreciated

short66sickfleet · 02-01-2005, 02:22 PM

i have miss placed the front clip pics. I will find them and then post. most likely not until wed

sorry! but i will find them! GMC will look good!

dubie · 02-01-2005, 03:28 PM

Thanks for looking for the pics bud! I appreciate it greatly

short66sickfleet · 02-03-2005, 12:29 AM

Hey sorry 4 wait,and these awful post welded pics! but thier all I could find. They should give you idea of where to place clip. The clip can lay right under existing frame. Or to get front or truck even lower you would want to remove bottom of 59 frame and then the bottom of clip will be flush with existing 59 frame. This is alot more work to get new frame welded in straight, BE very careful!! 1st pic:pass side inside engine area view, 2nd pic: driver outside frame view, 3rd pic:just to show off my metal!

lates... exit:

dubie · 02-03-2005, 10:16 AM

Wow!! thanks for the great pics!! Ours was done similar to that but the had the sub frame 6 " lower that yours so the truck sits at stock height. You front end is all stock and it sits that low?? sweeeeeeeeeeet!! It has a great stance!!
Here is a quick pick of our Nove clip that the previous owner welded in. Ya think this could be saved?

short66sickfleet · 02-03-2005, 01:47 PM

Yes, I am sure it could be saved with a little torching, and lots of grinding. LOOKs like who ever did the original clip most likely wasn't going for low! YES mine is stock, I did it all myself. Like the rest of the truck. Good luck I'm sure you can do it. let me know when it's done.

dubie · 02-03-2005, 05:19 PM

Sure thing bud and thanks for all your help, the pictures were a huge help to us!

Oh one more question
What engine and tranny are you running? and did you have to cut away any of the floor for the tranny to fit?
Guess I ahd 2 questions there eh

*Randy70C-10* · 02-06-2005, 10:09 PM

See there, it can work!!

"short66sickfleet's" looks clean.

dubie · 02-08-2005, 05:58 PM

Yeah this job looks nice and clean eh. Would you happen to have some pics of how it's welded on the outside of the frame rails? I would like to know if you plated it the ful length of the Nova sub frame or only in a couple spots

short66sickfleet · 02-15-2005, 03:23 PM

Dubie, If that last post was for me sorry i hadn't seen it. As far as welding the outside of frame rails, I just welded the entire length of 58 frame to the top side of camaro clip. No plating needed, But i did add two small triangle plates ,as gussets.You can see one of them in the pic, right in front of the cab mount. Oh, and i run a 350 w/ 350 tranny.No floor cutting at all! Rock on with the tear down,it's what must be done....

Kabwe · 02-15-2005, 08:13 PM

Dubie if you use a Monte Carlo you can slide the 55 frame right into it and brace it and make it look like it was original. You can barely tell its been clip. Plus the track width is a little better in my opinion. I have done camaros and monte carlos and both are nice. They both ride really well but for looks I choose the monte carlo. The work is about the same. Thats why I chose a MII for this project easy as pie. I done the Monte Carlo on on my brothers 55 chevy panel and it was nice. He sold the panel and I still have not forgiven him.lol

Kabwe · 02-15-2005, 08:14 PM

Hey I found this http://hotrodders.com/forums/journal...age=5&reverse= its a how to on a Monte Carlo if you are interested

Kabwe · 02-15-2005, 08:17 PM

short66sickfleet
nice truck

short66sickfleet · 03-17-2005, 09:28 PM

yeah i have been busy lately,but you are correct about the monte. It is nice way to go .learning everyday something better. stay up...

02-01-2005, 01:58 PM	#1
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,855	question for short66sickfleet I would like to know if you have any pics of your front clip that you welded in. I have been fairly unsuccessful in finding good pics of this mod on the net. We are in the tear down part of the wife 58 short fleet GMC and it already has a Nova clip welded in. You can see pics of it in the ugly IFS post I made further down the page. Any info and/or pics you can provide would be very much appreciated __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

02-01-2005, 02:22 PM	#2
short66sickfleet Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So.CAL Posts: 22	i have miss placed the front clip pics. I will find them and then post. most likely not until wed sorry! but i will find them! GMC will look good! __________________ My fleet..... 1958 Apache s.b fleetside,tubbed,clipped,nailed. 1966 s.b fleetside,tubbed,disc,air half way done. 1960 l.b fleetside,orginal#matching,soon tb copped,& stay original#match truck.

02-01-2005, 03:28 PM	#3
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,855	Thanks for looking for the pics bud! I appreciate it greatly __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

02-03-2005, 12:29 AM	#4
short66sickfleet Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So.CAL Posts: 22	Hey sorry 4 wait,and these awful post welded pics! but thier all I could find. They should give you idea of where to place clip. The clip can lay right under existing frame. Or to get front or truck even lower you would want to remove bottom of 59 frame and then the bottom of clip will be flush with existing 59 frame. This is alot more work to get new frame welded in straight, BE very careful!! 1st pic:pass side inside engine area view, 2nd pic: driver outside frame view, 3rd pic:just to show off my metal! lates... exit: Attached Images __________________ My fleet..... 1958 Apache s.b fleetside,tubbed,clipped,nailed. 1966 s.b fleetside,tubbed,disc,air half way done. 1960 l.b fleetside,orginal#matching,soon tb copped,& stay original#match truck.

02-03-2005, 10:16 AM	#5
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,855	Wow!! thanks for the great pics!! Ours was done similar to that but the had the sub frame 6 " lower that yours so the truck sits at stock height. You front end is all stock and it sits that low?? sweeeeeeeeeeet!! It has a great stance!! Here is a quick pick of our Nove clip that the previous owner welded in. Ya think this could be saved? __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

02-03-2005, 01:47 PM	#6
short66sickfleet Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So.CAL Posts: 22	Yes, I am sure it could be saved with a little torching, and lots of grinding. LOOKs like who ever did the original clip most likely wasn't going for low! YES mine is stock, I did it all myself. Like the rest of the truck. Good luck I'm sure you can do it. let me know when it's done. __________________ My fleet..... 1958 Apache s.b fleetside,tubbed,clipped,nailed. 1966 s.b fleetside,tubbed,disc,air half way done. 1960 l.b fleetside,orginal#matching,soon tb copped,& stay original#match truck.

02-03-2005, 05:19 PM	#7
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,855	Sure thing bud and thanks for all your help, the pictures were a huge help to us! Oh one more question What engine and tranny are you running? and did you have to cut away any of the floor for the tranny to fit? Guess I ahd 2 questions there eh __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

02-06-2005, 10:09 PM	#8
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	See there, it can work!! "short66sickfleet's" looks clean.

02-08-2005, 05:58 PM	#9
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,855	Yeah this job looks nice and clean eh. Would you happen to have some pics of how it's welded on the outside of the frame rails? I would like to know if you plated it the ful length of the Nova sub frame or only in a couple spots __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

02-15-2005, 03:23 PM	#10
short66sickfleet Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So.CAL Posts: 22	Dubie, If that last post was for me sorry i hadn't seen it. As far as welding the outside of frame rails, I just welded the entire length of 58 frame to the top side of camaro clip. No plating needed, But i did add two small triangle plates ,as gussets.You can see one of them in the pic, right in front of the cab mount. Oh, and i run a 350 w/ 350 tranny.No floor cutting at all! Rock on with the tear down,it's what must be done.... __________________ My fleet..... 1958 Apache s.b fleetside,tubbed,clipped,nailed. 1966 s.b fleetside,tubbed,disc,air half way done. 1960 l.b fleetside,orginal#matching,soon tb copped,& stay original#match truck.

02-15-2005, 08:13 PM	#11
Kabwe Certified Car Nut Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inglewood, California Posts: 3,118	Dubie if you use a Monte Carlo you can slide the 55 frame right into it and brace it and make it look like it was original. You can barely tell its been clip. Plus the track width is a little better in my opinion. I have done camaros and monte carlos and both are nice. They both ride really well but for looks I choose the monte carlo. The work is about the same. Thats why I chose a MII for this project easy as pie. I done the Monte Carlo on on my brothers 55 chevy panel and it was nice. He sold the panel and I still have not forgiven him.lol

02-15-2005, 08:14 PM	#12
Kabwe Certified Car Nut Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inglewood, California Posts: 3,118	Hey I found this http://hotrodders.com/forums/journal...age=5&reverse= its a how to on a Monte Carlo if you are interested

02-15-2005, 08:17 PM	#13
Kabwe Certified Car Nut Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inglewood, California Posts: 3,118	short66sickfleet nice truck

03-17-2005, 09:28 PM	#14
short66sickfleet Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So.CAL Posts: 22	yeah i have been busy lately,but you are correct about the monte. It is nice way to go .learning everyday something better. stay up... __________________ My fleet..... 1958 Apache s.b fleetside,tubbed,clipped,nailed. 1966 s.b fleetside,tubbed,disc,air half way done. 1960 l.b fleetside,orginal#matching,soon tb copped,& stay original#match truck.



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