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Old 09-02-2017, 07:29 PM   #1
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1990's steering column in a 51

need some advice from people who have put a 80s or 90s column in one of these trucks which is the best way to go about it.

i gutted a 1991 silverado last year, using the engine, transmission steering column etc off it. i did save the bracket from under the dash but obviously isnt a bolt in. did you have to modify the column itself or the bracket?

im just worried about cutting a hole or doing something stupid where it doesnt work, after the column is in i think the rest of the build shouldnt be half bad. so any kinda tips or advice about whats the best way to tackle this project?
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Old 09-02-2017, 10:25 PM   #2
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

I was going to try to go this route, but I think you'll find the column is too long, at least that's what i think w/mine. Didn't feel like modifying it too much.
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Old 09-02-2017, 10:40 PM   #3
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

Those later columns are too bulky and too cluttered for earlier trucks. I keep eyeballing the tilt column in my 77 C30 with a 4 speed that is clean and uncluttered and you can still get parts easily. It does have the switch on the column that I don't care for on earlier trucks but a lot of folks like the locking column.

Had a column out of an 84 Cutlass that had a floor shift automatic in the 48 for a long time. Not real cluttered and it did have the dimmer on the column.
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Old 09-03-2017, 08:10 AM   #4
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

I like using pre-83 van columns, they bolt right it.
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Old 09-03-2017, 12:20 PM   #5
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

Those are as clean and slick as you can find.

Abig84, I'd highly suggest walking around a few car shows or cruise nights and studying the steering columns guys stick in earlier model cars or trucks. You will discover that some are obviously swapped but look right and like they belong there, some look kinda ok but out of place and some just give you that what the heck were they thinking thought. Same goes with steering wheels, I saw a near perfect little 53 Chevy ragtop yesterday that had everything going for it until you saw the late model GM something or other sport steering wheel that looked like a total afterthought. Hopefully his special order one off custom wheel hasn't come in yet.
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Old 09-03-2017, 05:35 PM   #6
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

the last couple shows i been too i seen similar columns in the trucks but didnt look to closely. but maybe they were s10 columns or a van column as someone else said. i just figured it would be simple enough to just plug and play with the electrical of this column as it came out of the truck with the same drivetrain, even going to install the cruise control.


are s10 columns shorter? i might actually have one buried in the garage i can dig out, would probably be a older model like a 87 s10
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Old 09-03-2017, 07:06 PM   #7
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

check out the s10 column in your garage is should be shorter
ogre has an 86 astro van column in 58 truk
similar in everything to the s10

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Old 09-05-2017, 07:27 PM   #8
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Using 86 s10 in my 53 chevy
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Old 09-05-2017, 08:37 PM   #9
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im using an 86 s10 column in my '50
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

Ditto on the S10. I'm in the middle of a floor shift to a column shift using a 92.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:05 AM   #11
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

I wanted to go the S10 route, but after seeing a few at car shows, I thought they looked out of place.

It's been too long to find it in history now, but I bought a chrome column from ebay, with the GM wiring connector, for around $170 I think. You still need a wheel, but as MR.48 said, they aren't bulky like the late model stuff.
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

before buying a column off ebay read this: https://issuu.com/zone10nzhra/docs/i...eering_columns
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before buying a column off ebay read this: https://issuu.com/zone10nzhra/docs/i...eering_columns
Yep! That article and the cost of an Ididit or Flaming River unit is the reason I chose a rebuilt OEM column.
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Old 09-07-2017, 05:39 PM   #15
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

ill dig out the s10 column this weekend and see how it looks, placing the fullsize column in it does look kinda goofy, im sure i could make it work but going to be a lot of work. pretty sure the s10 column will have the same style ignition switch so should work with the factory wiring harness which im going to use for the time being, just going to have to tie up the thousand extra wires for the time being.
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

also try to match the angles if you can. in my opinion the column looks kinda goofy tilted all the way up in order to drive it. if tilted for just getting in and out then that is a different story.
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Old 09-07-2017, 06:46 PM   #17
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

my opinion only. just ask the wife how much that means.......haha.
your truck and your money, do what you like. that's hotrodding. just make it safe.
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Old 09-09-2017, 09:02 AM   #18
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my opinion only. just ask the wife how much that means.......haha.
your truck and your money, do what you like. that's hotrodding. just make it safe.
yeah thats my dilemma with this thing, im trying to build it cheap and safe. and the steering is the most dangerous part of all this which is why im trying to do it right.

so far the game plan is to use a modern column then a k5 blazer gear box bolted to the frame.
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before buying a column off ebay read this: https://issuu.com/zone10nzhra/docs/i...eering_columns
This document emphasized the weakness of tilt columns - do you think the non-tilt ones are not a good idea also? Is tilt a necessity in these trucks?

I was also looking for a pre-83, but really didn't like the key in the column. These are all I have found so far used (ebay, craigslist, etc.)
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Re: 1990's steering column in a 51

non tilt just has the straight shaft, pretty hard to have a failure there
thou i'd worry about failure of the cheap turn signal switch or column wiring
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Thank you for this info, I just completed my other 34 project with one of these cheap steering columns. Guess I should go back and replace it.
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