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Old 09-11-2017, 05:30 PM   #76
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Re: 1965 1/2 C10 Pickup

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No reason to attack me like that. My shop teacher said back then lots of things were possible that aren't as possible nowadays
Thats true , many things were "different" then. However , when people start interpreting their own versions of the truth or what your "told" it gets blown out of proportion. Just because one "shop teacher" SAID it , what did he mean exactly ? Doesn't make it fact. The simple fact here is, as everyone seems to be stating in agreement , this DIDN'T happen as the original post is stating, however I will wait for the facts before I put my last nail in this theory. Also , that was not an attack , that was a statement about fact vs fiction.
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:34 PM   #77
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Maybe you got an early prototype engine build. That would be cool.
For the truck engine to be a "prototype" The serial number would positively be around number one or two ,not a mid production year truck ! It might do you some good to read up on car/truck History of Chevrolet.
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:43 PM   #78
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Maybe you got an early prototype engine build. That would be cool.
Possible. All the naysayers out there can spout off all they want but I am telling the truth and just trying to get answers. It is as I say it is. I am as puzzled as you are and trying to get answers.
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:46 PM   #79
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Re: 1965 1/2 C10 Pickup

Just beating the crap out of you aren't they. Makes you not want to share anything with them anymore.
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:52 PM   #80
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Also here is my spid from my 66. Factory ac, big window, automatic and steering, also factory 327. Sat for a long time with the glove box open but here it is.
My truck had no SPID in glove box. Will take picture next time there to show you. People can call me what they want but it came with Roller Cam unless a Martian put it in while in transit from the factory.
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:52 PM   #81
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Re: 1965 1/2 C10 Pickup

Does that "1965 1/2" still have the original CD player in it?? haha.. jk.

Another thing that's odd to me is the "1/2"... I thought that was only a Ford thing to have half year models.

According to the GM facts, roller cam engines didn't come out until 1996 when the vortecs came out.

Good luck with the restore... it's a dam nice truck whatever you want to call it.
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:06 PM   #82
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Possible. All the naysayers out there can spout off all they want but I am telling the truth and just trying to get answers. It is as I say it is. I am as puzzled as you are and trying to get answers.
We can answer and are all waiting for the stamped numbers on the front of the block , picture would be best. You bought it new, then you should have the protecto plate, its in the packet with the owners manual that every 1965 and 1966 came with.
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Re: 1965 1/2 C10 Pickup

Some may be coming across as rude, but others here look like they are trying to help you resolve your questions. Sometimes odd things happen. Sometimes we forget things that happened 50 years ago.
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Salty, Do you have this:



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Thats true , many things were "different" then. However , when people start interpreting their own versions of the truth or what your "told" it gets blown out of proportion. Just because one "shop teacher" SAID it , what did he mean exactly ? Doesn't make it fact. The simple fact here is, as everyone seems to be stating in agreement , this DIDN'T happen as the original post is stating, however I will wait for the facts before I put my last nail in this theory. Also , that was not an attack , that was a statement about fact vs fiction.
I can accept that. I don't understand that i didn't happen as the post stated except about the year. I purchased and registered it in 1965. It is in fact a 1966 model delivered in 1965.
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No i never kept that after all those years.
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I am logging off of this its blowing up my phone every 2 min.
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Re: 1965 1/2 C10 Pickup

Very interesting truck. This all reminds me of a 1956 Chevrolet 2 door hardtop Belair that my older brother purchased from an elderly lady that lived near us back in 1968. This car was incredibly loaded. It had a very hard white perforated headliner with chrome strips between each panel. It also had power windows, power front seat, power brakes, and power steering. I know I was just a kid and thought it was odd. But had I known that all these years later, I still have yet to find one person that believes me, especially about the headliner, I would have taken photos. I have tried for years to have this confirmed by someone in the tri five chevy clubs, and no-one has ever heard of such a thing. Until proven otherwise I stand by this owners claim.
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Does that "1965 1/2" still have the original CD player in it?? haha.. jk.

Another thing that's odd to me is the "1/2"... I thought that was only a Ford thing to have half year models.

According to the GM facts, roller cam engines didn't come out until 1996 when the vortecs came out.

Good luck with the restore... it's a dam nice truck whatever you want to call it.
I currently have a 1999 1/2 Chevy Truck!
I ordered a Truck 327 engine. My engine has Camel Back Heads and 1.94in Intake valves as well as the Roller Cam. This was not in the 327 Truck engine so you figure it out. Obviously they did not install the regular Truck engine. Why i do not know. I can only state the facts as i know them. That is why i am asking for help. At nearly 80 years old i do not have need to impress anybody.
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At nearly 80 years old i do not have need to impress anybody.
Could it be you had some work done on it at some time that you may not remember?
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TRUCE!!!!! Let's try to be Decent before we get this Thread Shut Down
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Re: 1965 1/2 C10 Pickup

Here is a pretty good magazine write up on the L79. It states the factory cam shaft that was used was part# 3863151 which is a flat tappet cam? Decide for yourself?

http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...vy-l79-engine/

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Here is a pretty good magazine write up on the L79. It states the factory cam shaft that was used was part# 3863151 which is a flat tappet cam? Decide for yourself?

http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...vy-l79-engine/
He special ordered his roller cam.
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Just like he special ordered no documentation.
a. I "know" gm didnt even have an engine like this even for their racing program.
1. But little Johnny could get one.
b. He has no documentation that for sure would prove otherwise.
c. The 60's and 70's were too good to some people.
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Like i said a long time ago show pictures.
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:54 PM   #97
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That part number on the package shows those are hydraulic roller lifters.

Look, we don't mean to be dicks, but NO Chevy engine came from the factory in the '60s with a roller cam. It just didn't.
I had a VERY good friend who was a factory-backed Super Stock and Pro Stock racer in the '60s and '70s... he was so good, he was one of only 69 people to get a 1969 ZL1 Camaro, which is the most desirable Camaro built.
He raced a 327 in the '70s... he did not use a roller cam, because it didn't exist then in factory applications. If it did, he'd have run one.

So I think what's happening here, is that your engine shop is screwing you.
To convert an engine over to roller cam, there's a lot you have to do to the heads--they'll have to elongate the pushrod holes, machine the rocker stud bosses for screw-in rocker arm studs and pushrod guide plates, and machine the spring pockets to accept the larger springs required to run a roller cam.

I know, because I've documented all that work on a set of double-hump heads of an engine I built.

That work is going to add a BUNCH of money to your machine shop bill.
If those things have NOT been done to your heads, there is absolutely no way it is an original roller cam engine. A roller cam MUST have those things, or the engine will destroy itself.

Going forward, it seems very, VERY unlikely you have a high-horse corvette engine in front of a 2-speed PowerGlide in a '66 Truck.
I wouldn't be surprised to see double-hump heads, Everyone thinks that automatically means Corvette, but it doesn't.
But as someone else pointed out, if it is a Corvette engine, it will have to have an aluminum intake and 4-barrel carburetor.

I don't want to be a dick, or the bearer of bad news, but I suspect your machine shop is being dishonest.

Get pics of the unmachined heads (the part under the valve cover, not the side with the valve faces in it), the stamped numbers on the block on the head surface next to the timing chain cover, and a picture of the intake manifold and carb that was on the engine.
Do those things, and that'll tell the tale.

I'd ask him for the original lifters and camshaft, too--it's obvious if it's a roller or flat tappet. But if he's being dishonest, he'll say he threw them away or threw them in the scrap barrel already. OR, he could just pull out some others from a different engine and say "these are them." At which point, you'd need to photograph any part numbers on them, and that's going to open up another can of worms because he'll say "Oh, I grabbed the wrong one," or or or..
Take a pic of the heads. ASAP. From all angles.
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Most people of that generation kept every piece of paper and receipt related to their vehicles. Every oil change. Every filter change. Every purchased item.
Sheesh! I can't find the receipt for the battery I bought 6 months ago.
But then again, I don't remember forgetting anything.
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I don't want to be a dick, or the bearer of bad news, but I suspect your machine shop is being dishonest.

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You make a very good point here.
The older fella that I bought my 65 back from said when the 283 blew
(the 283 I originally had in it when I owned it), he said he had his shop build him a high performance 327.
After I bought it back, I started digging around my engine. With help from forum members here, we deduced it is a 283)
The shop told him it was a 327. how was the ol fella to know. Sad....

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According to the GM facts, roller cam engines didn't come out until 1996 when the vortecs came out.
Actually, I'm pretty sure the first factory SBC roller cam was introduced in the 1987 Corvette.

EDIT: Just looked it up. All 87-up passenger car 305 and 350, (and the 4.3 V-6) came with roller lifters. Trucks didn't get them until 1996.

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