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MITCH1914 · 11-13-2003, 10:24 AM

i visited another board last night and asked about what was the best head to use on my 406. i mentioned that i was leaning toward the afr 190 heads. one guy told me that the pro topline lightning heads were just as good as the afr's but much cheeper and that i should go with those the one her reccomended were the 200 or the 220 for my 406 to make 450 hp and 450 plus tq. what do you guys think and has anyone used the pro toplines heads and what is the combo 383 or 406 or what ever it may be. i

thanks

MITCH1914

PR454SS · 11-13-2003, 11:41 AM

I've heard just the opposite, a friend of mine run a local machine shop and he said the Topline are overated because of the price, also check out ryanscarpage.50megs.com some of the engine combos and the power they make with them are awesome. His page and the AFR website sold me on my next set of heads. I'll be getting the AFR 195's

PR454SS · 11-13-2003, 11:44 AM

On another note, I have to believe that with heads, You get what you pay for

bigjimzlll · 11-13-2003, 11:48 AM

I am using the protopline 200cc/50cc chamber heads. I had them on a 385..now on a 355..they are going on my 406 this winter. I think the afrs are a little better..are they 400.00 better?? I dont know. They are readily available..the afrs take months to get. You can easily make 450hp/tq with the 200cc heads. I will be over 550hp with my combo(13-1 c/r) One thing..order the heads through a speed/machine shop bare..and have them build them. It works out to about the same price and better QC. The first set the shop got in for me had a bad exhaust seat..it wasn't real bad..but they got me another set

GMC JUNKIE TOO · 11-13-2003, 05:22 PM

I have a set of aluminum pro toplines 200cc 64cc chambers they cost me a little under $1200.00 assembled. I am verry happy with them.

RACING29 · 11-13-2003, 10:13 PM

What about a set of Pro 1 Aluminum Dart Heads?

bigjimzlll · 11-13-2003, 10:37 PM

pro1s are nice too...the toplines flow better out of the box though

68c10owner · 11-14-2003, 01:48 AM

a friend of mine has a 406 with flat top pistons, the 72cc pro 1 215 runner heads and a isky 304 mega hyd. cam. it`s in a 64 chevelle but it`s got a 3,000rpm stall and 4.11 gears and it runs well into the 11 second zone. i had a set of 215 runner afr heads that i bought bare and had a guy port,polish and set up for roller cam. never used them but they were good heads and the guy that did them liked the flow numbers he got from them. it`s all in the combo, match the heads to the cam and compression and your motor will make plenty of power whichever heads you use.

MITCH1914 · 11-14-2003, 09:18 AM

thanks for the feedback guys. to be honest with you all am torn between the afr that i have always known about to be good heads and the pro toplines that i just found out about and that are a couple hundred dollars cheeper and put out just as much power as the afr's. so looks like i will be looking at the two very hard. oh yeah i do believe you get what you pay for, but i also like to get a good deal if i can so i am kinda undecided between the two.

thanks
MITCH1914

shortbed70 · 11-14-2003, 11:47 PM

I'm thinking of the pro topline 50cc heads for my truck. 355 8.5-1 comp now but going to the 50cc heads your talking 10.5-1 or more. I was thinking of getting them for my race car and still might because with a flat top piston you get a better burn rate for fuel and with the small chambers you can make 12.5-1. For like 400 you can get the haeds and buy a kit with valves and everything for 125 and have less than what they want for an assembled head provided you know how to put them togather and have the tools.

bigjimzlll · 11-14-2003, 11:52 PM

I have the 50cc heads...they are actually 54cc

UNCLEBOB · 11-16-2003, 11:21 AM

Im building a 383 that should be around 500hp I looked at the options and went with the afr 210s. Everyone I see using the afr always run hard. For a couple hundred bucks you dont want to wonder what if. Good luck

11-13-2003, 10:24 AM	#1
MITCH1914 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: indianapolis,indiana,usa Posts: 506	question about pro topline heads i visited another board last night and asked about what was the best head to use on my 406. i mentioned that i was leaning toward the afr 190 heads. one guy told me that the pro topline lightning heads were just as good as the afr's but much cheeper and that i should go with those the one her reccomended were the 200 or the 220 for my 406 to make 450 hp and 450 plus tq. what do you guys think and has anyone used the pro toplines heads and what is the combo 383 or 406 or what ever it may be. i thanks MITCH1914

11-13-2003, 11:41 AM	#2
PR454SS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Louisville, TN Posts: 338	I've heard just the opposite, a friend of mine run a local machine shop and he said the Topline are overated because of the price, also check out ryanscarpage.50megs.com some of the engine combos and the power they make with them are awesome. His page and the AFR website sold me on my next set of heads. I'll be getting the AFR 195's __________________ PR Too many projects, not enough time! 72SWB 350/350TH, 3500stall,525 lift cam 3:73 posi. Sold! 69LWB Flatbed 350/Super T-10, ported/polished 481 heads, 480 lift cam. 78SWB 468/400TH, ported/polished Alum. heads, 3:42 posi, 3000 stall on 17x8 and 18x9.5's 77 Jeep CJ-5 304V8 fiberglass body on 36" Ground Hawgs

11-13-2003, 11:44 AM	#3
PR454SS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Louisville, TN Posts: 338	On another note, I have to believe that with heads, You get what you pay for __________________ PR Too many projects, not enough time! 72SWB 350/350TH, 3500stall,525 lift cam 3:73 posi. Sold! 69LWB Flatbed 350/Super T-10, ported/polished 481 heads, 480 lift cam. 78SWB 468/400TH, ported/polished Alum. heads, 3:42 posi, 3000 stall on 17x8 and 18x9.5's 77 Jeep CJ-5 304V8 fiberglass body on 36" Ground Hawgs

11-13-2003, 11:48 AM	#4
bigjimzlll Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redding,CA...USA Posts: 4,736	I am using the protopline 200cc/50cc chamber heads. I had them on a 385..now on a 355..they are going on my 406 this winter. I think the afrs are a little better..are they 400.00 better?? I dont know. They are readily available..the afrs take months to get. You can easily make 450hp/tq with the 200cc heads. I will be over 550hp with my combo(13-1 c/r) One thing..order the heads through a speed/machine shop bare..and have them build them. It works out to about the same price and better QC. The first set the shop got in for me had a bad exhaust seat..it wasn't real bad..but they got me another set __________________ It's called "drag racing" if they called it "tic..tic..WHAM!..BANG! F*&K!!!", they'd have to keep the magazines under the counter with the other men's publications click the clicky to join the site.... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php 67 lwb..first hotrod in 25 years..540 best ET is 9.45 @ 141.44 Anderson,CA

11-13-2003, 10:13 PM	#6
RACING29 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tennessee, Morristown Posts: 355	What about a set of Pro 1 Aluminum Dart Heads? __________________ 1967 Chevy truck, R1 racing seats, 4 point racing harness, 4/6 drop, primered blue, soon to be shaved, 350- 060. over, flat top pistons, Eagle rods, Edelbrock Aluminum heads, 1.5 Scorpion roller rockers, Lunati 515" cam, mallory ignition, Holley 750 double pumper carb, Built 350 turbo trans, 2500-2800 boss hog stall, 20 gallon aluminum fuel cell!!!

11-13-2003, 05:22 PM	#5
GMC JUNKIE TOO THE QUICKER FIXERUPER Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ok Posts: 615	I have a set of aluminum pro toplines 200cc 64cc chambers they cost me a little under $1200.00 assembled. I am verry happy with them.

11-13-2003, 10:37 PM	#7
bigjimzlll Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redding,CA...USA Posts: 4,736	pro1s are nice too...the toplines flow better out of the box though __________________ It's called "drag racing" if they called it "tic..tic..WHAM!..BANG! F*&K!!!", they'd have to keep the magazines under the counter with the other men's publications click the clicky to join the site.... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php 67 lwb..first hotrod in 25 years..540 best ET is 9.45 @ 141.44 Anderson,CA

11-14-2003, 01:48 AM	#8
68c10owner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Carmichael, California Posts: 3,006	a friend of mine has a 406 with flat top pistons, the 72cc pro 1 215 runner heads and a isky 304 mega hyd. cam. it`s in a 64 chevelle but it`s got a 3,000rpm stall and 4.11 gears and it runs well into the 11 second zone. i had a set of 215 runner afr heads that i bought bare and had a guy port,polish and set up for roller cam. never used them but they were good heads and the guy that did them liked the flow numbers he got from them. it`s all in the combo, match the heads to the cam and compression and your motor will make plenty of power whichever heads you use. __________________ Anthony

11-14-2003, 09:18 AM	#9
MITCH1914 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: indianapolis,indiana,usa Posts: 506	thanks for the feedback thanks for the feedback guys. to be honest with you all am torn between the afr that i have always known about to be good heads and the pro toplines that i just found out about and that are a couple hundred dollars cheeper and put out just as much power as the afr's. so looks like i will be looking at the two very hard. oh yeah i do believe you get what you pay for, but i also like to get a good deal if i can so i am kinda undecided between the two. thanks MITCH1914

11-14-2003, 11:47 PM	#10
shortbed70 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Forney TX Posts: 4,512	I'm thinking of the pro topline 50cc heads for my truck. 355 8.5-1 comp now but going to the 50cc heads your talking 10.5-1 or more. I was thinking of getting them for my race car and still might because with a flat top piston you get a better burn rate for fuel and with the small chambers you can make 12.5-1. For like 400 you can get the haeds and buy a kit with valves and everything for 125 and have less than what they want for an assembled head provided you know how to put them togather and have the tools. __________________ Troy 1965 Chevy Bagged,361 sbc,voodoo cam,1.5 full roller rockers,patriot 185cc vortec heads 2.02-1.60,vortec weiand polished intake,demon carb my truckhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=332884 Big Red Dog build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=572274

11-14-2003, 11:52 PM	#11
bigjimzlll Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redding,CA...USA Posts: 4,736	I have the 50cc heads...they are actually 54cc __________________ It's called "drag racing" if they called it "tic..tic..WHAM!..BANG! F*&K!!!", they'd have to keep the magazines under the counter with the other men's publications click the clicky to join the site.... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php 67 lwb..first hotrod in 25 years..540 best ET is 9.45 @ 141.44 Anderson,CA

11-16-2003, 11:21 AM	#12
UNCLEBOB Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: bremerton wa 98310 Posts: 100	Im building a 383 that should be around 500hp I looked at the options and went with the afr 210s. Everyone I see using the afr always run hard. For a couple hundred bucks you dont want to wonder what if. Good luck __________________ 68 lwb 383 solid roller,250dur, 582lift, afr 210s, 10.8 comp. edel.rpm, 750vs,1 3/4 headers turbo 400, 3500 stall,ford 9 inch 3.89 gears

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