Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**DeadheadNM** · 09-19-2013, 09:58 PM

Nice looking K5 (not mine) but the SPID raises some questions in my mind...anyone seen a SPID with X's and similar font, lowercase "s" in VIN, handwritten wheel base, "GVW rating", and such...

listed here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-...ca713668#v4-42

BrianG · 09-19-2013, 10:24 PM

Not sure, but who cares! That is one super clean and nice looking Blazer.

**DeadheadNM** · 09-19-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG

Not sure, but who cares! That is one super clean and nice looking Blazer.

Because I'm trying to get better at spotting BS even if it's a nice ride...

In The Ten Ring · 09-19-2013, 10:30 PM

"Buy the gun, not the story." I assume it's the same for trucks.

**jocko** · 09-19-2013, 10:32 PM

font looks incorrect, but it "looks" like an old SPID, if someone were to fake one, then it would look much newer, I think. Unless he swapped in the SPID or glovebox door from another trashed, but originally nicely optioned, Blazer. Anyway - only way to know is to compare it to the riveted (and make sure they are correct rosette rivets) VIN tag and the frame VIN. Sure looks like a nice Blazer, but I'd want to authenticate it before buying.

lowrollin70gmc · 09-19-2013, 10:44 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if that was legit, the factory did weird things back then and that could have been done on a type writer by the new guy who forgot the wheelbase and started typing tinted glass wrong and XXXX ed it out.

There aren't any crazy desirable options on that SPID either. If it was an upper trim level or had rare options I would question it more. But that appears to be a very clean Blazer optioned with nice, smart options.

**DeadheadNM** · 09-19-2013, 10:48 PM

The decal looks legit but there are options listed that aren't options, aren't the standard option description, and the font is odd....it's puzzling me

ole dollor · 09-19-2013, 11:23 PM

not sure on the spid...but that is one nice truck , if its a good as the photo's..

Keith Seymore · 09-19-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lowrollin70gmc

It wouldn't surprise me if that was legit, the factory did weird things back then and that could have been done on a type writer by the new guy who forgot the wheelbase and started typing tinted glass wrong and XXXX ed it out.

SPIDs, build manifests and Mulroney window stickers weren't individually hand typed, even as far back as the mid 1960's.

The information was "broadcast" to several areas of the plant and they were simply printed remotely, using an IBM teletype system.

K

*Mister-B* · 09-19-2013, 11:57 PM

SSTim, where are you?
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**DeadheadNM** · 09-20-2013, 12:18 AM

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sstim, where are you?
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x2 - lol!!!

**Ol Blue K20** · 09-20-2013, 12:22 AM

I think it's bogus the font is totally wrong they didn't type em or hand write either
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sxtrail2 · 09-20-2013, 01:27 AM

Very strange. .never seen one like that before. .
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Steve Hafner · 09-20-2013, 04:20 AM

. . . .

I think the truck is "original" but the SPID isn't.

I don't think they would have ever written in the wheelbase with pen.

The font looks too much like it came from a typewriter also.

. . . and it looks like it has the "footprint" of it's original valve cover decal.

But, it looks like it DOES have the correct mount on the right side for the washer bottle that came with the factory auxiliary battery !!!

Where's CHIPFLYER ? He could tells us what this is.

. . . .

BruthaMan · 09-20-2013, 07:39 AM

The type font is peculiar. Spent some time this morning looking through old typewriter font faces. The "5" character in the font is what caught my attention.

In the spid posted, the top line of the "5" seems to arch upward. Looking at spid images from google, the "5" (the top line of the five), appears to be straight across.

Estimated guess is that someone simply tried to restore a previously damaged spid.

NC_John · 09-20-2013, 09:54 AM

They sell blank SPID labels. I'm sure that is probably what this one is- a do-over.

So.Cal.Super · 09-20-2013, 10:24 AM

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SSTim, where are you?
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Bill72 · 09-20-2013, 12:02 PM

I think it's bogus. In 71 I believe the paint color would be called out last. Also the options should be in alpha order from left to right and then top to bottom. 350 and A/T are out of order for sure. There may be others. I can't read all of it.

Ad says no modifications but carpet, steering wheel and dash pad would be black with parchment interior, not saddle, although I like the saddle better.

davepl · 09-20-2013, 01:50 PM

I'm no archivist, but the aging looks suspicious too, like it got left out in the rain, not normal aging you'd see inside the glovebox (unless it and the windows were open, I suppose).

Definitely NOT the standard chain-drive IBM printer or whatever they actually used. This is clearly hand-typed and I'm not aware of any that were. If there ever were, I'd bet we'd be seeing a lot of "documented" shortbox bigblock trucks running around with that explanation, but we don't, so I call BS. But that's just my opinion, and I've been wrong before.

slow-1 · 09-20-2013, 01:53 PM

The SPID may not look good, but the Blazer sure does.

cleszkie · 09-20-2013, 01:56 PM

Type font aside, I've never seen a SPID label wrinkled like that. I"ve seen them crooked, but never wrinkled all over. Fake aging job gone wrong???

briank · 09-20-2013, 03:00 PM

I was thinking it was fake when I saw it on ebay too. Still a nice k5

Sicklajoie · 09-20-2013, 03:25 PM

All I know is that's one sweet Blazer.

**DeadheadNM** · 09-21-2013, 09:43 AM

We'll never know but I wonder if someone at the dealership mistakenly peeled off the SPID at time of delivery and the folks there at Ed Blacks Chevrolet (now a Walmart) got a hold of a blank and typed in the details off the invoice.

Coley · 09-21-2013, 11:55 AM

I agree that the font looks a little off and they would not have written in wheel base etc. It might have been a 10 year old 'redo' made to look 40 years old, who knows?
The other thing that I think is a little off is the cruise control system....factory? I'm not sure but if so, it should be listed on the SPID.
As well, it looks a little incomplete but I'm not 100% up on everything that comes with the cruise.
My two bits.
Coley

09-19-2013, 09:58 PM	#1
DeadheadNM Carpe manana Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 12,285	Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? Nice looking K5 (not mine) but the SPID raises some questions in my mind...anyone seen a SPID with X's and similar font, lowercase "s" in VIN, handwritten wheel base, "GVW rating", and such... listed here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-...ca713668#v4-42 Attached Images __________________ 1972 K5 CST Highlander Blazer: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=708547 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=528308 Members met: ORANGBLAZ, 2003 silverado, MikeCofield, BB72CHEVKT, Duncan&Son, Sameyrasmea72, THENEWMEXICAN, HotRod C/10, brianthelion02, Sport/Truck, ryanroo, michael bustamante, Dirt's72, Already Gone, WestButteTruck, 57taskforce, Moreyel, painterljp, AASmedic, SoCoC10, Lumaestas, carbuff382, Chevyland

09-19-2013, 10:24 PM	#2
BrianG Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oakley, Michigan Posts: 735	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? Not sure, but who cares! That is one super clean and nice looking Blazer.

09-19-2013, 10:30 PM	#4
In The Ten Ring Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: West Virginia Posts: 6,421	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? "Buy the gun, not the story." I assume it's the same for trucks.

09-19-2013, 10:32 PM	#5
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,934	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? font looks incorrect, but it "looks" like an old SPID, if someone were to fake one, then it would look much newer, I think. Unless he swapped in the SPID or glovebox door from another trashed, but originally nicely optioned, Blazer. Anyway - only way to know is to compare it to the riveted (and make sure they are correct rosette rivets) VIN tag and the frame VIN. Sure looks like a nice Blazer, but I'd want to authenticate it before buying.

09-19-2013, 10:44 PM	#6
lowrollin70gmc Too many projects Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fargo, ND land of the flat hills Posts: 1,147	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? It wouldn't surprise me if that was legit, the factory did weird things back then and that could have been done on a type writer by the new guy who forgot the wheelbase and started typing tinted glass wrong and XXXX ed it out. There aren't any crazy desirable options on that SPID either. If it was an upper trim level or had rare options I would question it more. But that appears to be a very clean Blazer optioned with nice, smart options. __________________ Andrew 84 GMC C1500 SWB 6.2 Diesel/700R4/3.42 "Grandpa's odd duck" 70 GMC C1500 LWB My first truck: shaved, bagged, and more: the lowrollin70gmc 68 K20 Suburban 12V Cummins/NV5600/NP205/D60/11.5AAM 3.73s "Dakota Cadillac" 63 Chevy II Nova Coupe 250 I6/T56/4.56s "Economy car" 53 Willys Wagon 350/NV4500/BW4401/HP D44/9inch “Winter Wagon” 30 Model A 16 Focus ST

09-19-2013, 10:48 PM	#7
DeadheadNM Carpe manana Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 12,285	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? The decal looks legit but there are options listed that aren't options, aren't the standard option description, and the font is odd....it's puzzling me __________________ 1972 K5 CST Highlander Blazer: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=708547 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=528308 Members met: ORANGBLAZ, 2003 silverado, MikeCofield, BB72CHEVKT, Duncan&Son, Sameyrasmea72, THENEWMEXICAN, HotRod C/10, brianthelion02, Sport/Truck, ryanroo, michael bustamante, Dirt's72, Already Gone, WestButteTruck, 57taskforce, Moreyel, painterljp, AASmedic, SoCoC10, Lumaestas, carbuff382, Chevyland

09-19-2013, 11:23 PM	#8
ole dollor Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Anton, Texas Posts: 2,364	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? not sure on the spid...but that is one nice truck , if its a good as the photo's..

09-19-2013, 11:57 PM	#10
Mister-B Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,331	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? SSTim, where are you? Posted via Mobile Device

09-20-2013, 12:22 AM	#12
Ol Blue K20 Proprietor of Dale's Corner Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Vacaville , CA Posts: 15,834	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? I think it's bogus the font is totally wrong they didn't type em or hand write either Posted via Mobile Device __________________ "Some Days Chickens And Some Days Feathers" Dale XNGH ECV Sam Brannan 1004 R.I.P. 67ChevyRedneck R.I.P. Grumpy Old Man

09-20-2013, 01:27 AM	#13
sxtrail2 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: santa rosa ca Posts: 19	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? Very strange. .never seen one like that before. . Posted via Mobile Device

09-20-2013, 04:20 AM	#14
Steve Hafner Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Northport, Alabama Posts: 1,353	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? . . . . I think the truck is "original" but the SPID isn't. I don't think they would have ever written in the wheelbase with pen. The font looks too much like it came from a typewriter also. . . . and it looks like it has the "footprint" of it's original valve cover decal. But, it looks like it DOES have the correct mount on the right side for the washer bottle that came with the factory auxiliary battery !!! Where's CHIPFLYER ? He could tells us what this is. . . . . Attached Images Last edited by Steve Hafner; 09-20-2013 at 04:30 AM.

09-20-2013, 07:39 AM	#15
BruthaMan US Army Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,049	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? The type font is peculiar. Spent some time this morning looking through old typewriter font faces. The "5" character in the font is what caught my attention. In the spid posted, the top line of the "5" seems to arch upward. Looking at spid images from google, the "5" (the top line of the five), appears to be straight across. Estimated guess is that someone simply tried to restore a previously damaged spid. __________________ 1972 C10 Highlander - The making of a daily driver

09-20-2013, 09:54 AM	#16
NC_John Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 1,639	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? They sell blank SPID labels. I'm sure that is probably what this one is- a do-over. __________________ 1970 C-10 LWB "Blu" Instagram (current build pictures) 70_nc_c10

09-20-2013, 12:02 PM	#18
Bill72 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fort Sumner, NM Posts: 298	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? I think it's bogus. In 71 I believe the paint color would be called out last. Also the options should be in alpha order from left to right and then top to bottom. 350 and A/T are out of order for sure. There may be others. I can't read all of it. Ad says no modifications but carpet, steering wheel and dash pad would be black with parchment interior, not saddle, although I like the saddle better. Last edited by Bill72; 09-20-2013 at 12:17 PM.

09-20-2013, 01:50 PM	#19
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? I'm no archivist, but the aging looks suspicious too, like it got left out in the rain, not normal aging you'd see inside the glovebox (unless it and the windows were open, I suppose). Definitely NOT the standard chain-drive IBM printer or whatever they actually used. This is clearly hand-typed and I'm not aware of any that were. If there ever were, I'd bet we'd be seeing a lot of "documented" shortbox bigblock trucks running around with that explanation, but we don't, so I call BS. But that's just my opinion, and I've been wrong before. __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible



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09-20-2013, 01:53 PM	#20
slow-1 Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Central NC Posts: 830	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? The SPID may not look good, but the Blazer sure does. __________________ 1972 Cheyene C-10 "Ole Green" My Grandfathers truck (early 70's to 1983) My first vehicle (1983) Original 350 (3 rebuilds) 700R4 from Bowtie Overdrives

09-20-2013, 01:56 PM	#21
cleszkie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Ana, CA Posts: 2,191	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? Type font aside, I've never seen a SPID label wrinkled like that. I"ve seen them crooked, but never wrinkled all over. Fake aging job gone wrong???

09-20-2013, 03:00 PM	#22
briank Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Leland, Il Posts: 1,503	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? I was thinking it was fake when I saw it on ebay too. Still a nice k5

09-20-2013, 03:25 PM	#23
Sicklajoie The Niner Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Broad Brook, CT Posts: 2,489	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? All I know is that's one sweet Blazer. __________________ "A good racer is one whose head is in communication with his balls." - Richie Evans 1970 C/20 - 402/TH400/3.54s - 74K miles 2003 GMC Sierra 2500 - Wheatland Yellow Niner Progression Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=697183 Classic Trucks article: https://www.motortrend.com/features/...et-c20-driven/

09-21-2013, 09:43 AM	#24
DeadheadNM Carpe manana Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 12,285	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? We'll never know but I wonder if someone at the dealership mistakenly peeled off the SPID at time of delivery and the folks there at Ed Blacks Chevrolet (now a Walmart) got a hold of a blank and typed in the details off the invoice. __________________ 1972 K5 CST Highlander Blazer: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=708547 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=528308 Members met: ORANGBLAZ, 2003 silverado, MikeCofield, BB72CHEVKT, Duncan&Son, Sameyrasmea72, THENEWMEXICAN, HotRod C/10, brianthelion02, Sport/Truck, ryanroo, michael bustamante, Dirt's72, Already Gone, WestButteTruck, 57taskforce, Moreyel, painterljp, AASmedic, SoCoC10, Lumaestas, carbuff382, Chevyland

09-21-2013, 11:55 AM	#25
Coley Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 3,794	Re: Ebay sale: is this a real or bogus SPID? I agree that the font looks a little off and they would not have written in wheel base etc. It might have been a 10 year old 'redo' made to look 40 years old, who knows? The other thing that I think is a little off is the cruise control system....factory? I'm not sure but if so, it should be listed on the SPID. As well, it looks a little incomplete but I'm not 100% up on everything that comes with the cruise. My two bits. Coley __________________ ....for some men, there is experience, skill and effort....for the others...there is visa and UPS LOL 1966 Chevy 1/2 ton (Florida- Red/white) 1972 Chevy 1/2 ton (California- Blue/white) 2005 Chevy Silverado HD2500/Duramax 2000 Dodge Ram 1500

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