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Old 01-11-2014, 12:06 PM   #101
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That was pretty low.


For those that don't know yesterday I drove this to work and the engine oil pan drain plug fell out. I stopped it before it was totally out of oil. My brother brought a different drain plug and my dad brought some oil. We put the drain plug in and oil in, fired it up and it was fine. Drove it with no issues. Later I started it up and it had a slight knock. Now it will be getting a rebuilt engine. It really stinks because I checked everything but the oil pan drain plug. I was just under it yesterday morning checking stuff and the drain plug was dry and had no signs of being loose. So yes, check them all before driving a big project........
All in good fun my friend. just trying to make light of a crappy situation.
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:12 PM   #102
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Hey, at least the cruise works. And at least the a/c isn't charged yet........
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:17 PM   #103
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Since you will have the engine apart, seems like a good time for twins and maybe a p-pump...
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Old 01-14-2014, 06:36 PM   #104
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At least with the engine no-one gets hurt. I always fear that I forgot to tighten a bolt that holds the steering or suspension together and it will fall out going down the road at 70.....that wouldn't be good.
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Old 01-15-2014, 02:47 AM   #105
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Yeah, true. I rechecked my axle u bolts and spring hanger bolts, hub bolts, ball joints, tie rods and all that for the same reason. Dang the luck.
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:06 AM   #106
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Any progress on this one ? You got all the hard work done so I guess just $$$ at this point ?

Still one of my fav builds on here . I guess it's knowing if I tried to build one I could actually use the excuse it's for the wife . lol.
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:51 AM   #107
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LOL Yeah for sure. We just got the engine and trans pulled back out and I have the new engine short block is done. I'm hoping to get everything transfered over and get the engine put back soon.
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Old 03-31-2014, 03:59 PM   #108
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The big ol Ex is running once again. I checked the drain plug and a lot of everything else because I'm paranoid now. Last Thursday I broke the cam in and everything was good, no leaks etc. The only thing odd is it had a slight belt squeal noise but I think it was a tone ring tach interference issue. It wasn't the tone ring or sensor, I think it's just the dang belt. I've put 160 miles on it and it's doing good. I have a coolant leak to address at some point. It's leaking a slight bit from a weld on my lower coolant tube. I'm going to have to put a new ring and pinion in the rear axle as my used one has a whining noise that is annoying.




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Old 03-31-2014, 08:24 PM   #109
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Looking good . How does that 24v work with the 1st gen style pump. Thats called a rotary pump rite ? The next one like your 70 and Ryan the super welder's is called a p pump ?
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:38 PM   #110
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I'm still trying to get used to the sound of it and figure out where it likes the timing the best. It works pretty good so far. Yep, it's a rotary or VE bosch pump. The 94-98's are P-pump in line bosch pumps.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:13 PM   #111
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Good catch there 56 6BT. I missed that until you mentioned it. So Ryan is it a IC or NIC VE pump? I have a spare NIC pump that I was going to try and get rid of it but I might hang on to it if you tell me it's worth hanging on to in case my VP takes a dump. Oh yeah, Nice Build.
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Good catch there 56 6BT. I missed that until you mentioned it. So Ryan is it a IC or NIC VE pump? I have a spare NIC pump that I was going to try and get rid of it but I might hang on to it if you tell me it's worth hanging on to in case my VP takes a dump. Oh yeah, Nice Build.
They're only good for a max of about 450 HP with the stock head.
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Good catch there 56 6BT. I missed that until you mentioned it. So Ryan is it a IC or NIC VE pump? I have a spare NIC pump that I was going to try and get rid of it but I might hang on to it if you tell me it's worth hanging on to in case my VP takes a dump. Oh yeah, Nice Build.
If you do want to unload the NIC VE pump you have I know someone that would be interested in it.
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Old 04-01-2014, 03:57 PM   #114
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Good catch there 56 6BT. I missed that until you mentioned it. So Ryan is it a IC or NIC VE pump? I have a spare NIC pump that I was going to try and get rid of it but I might hang on to it if you tell me it's worth hanging on to in case my VP takes a dump. Oh yeah, Nice Build.
This pump is from a non intercooled engine and has a Denny T Stage 2 fuel pin and a 3200gsk. Honestly, since you have the truck all wired up and running, I'd leave it a VP. I used to hate VP trucks, but have taken a fond liking to them lately. I'm still trying to get used to the different tone from the VE on the 24v. It moves out pretty well considering this tank weighs 8690 with a full tank of fuel.
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Good to hear it runs well. Man its heavy ! I have the same fuel pin and gsk for mine . Still find them very ineffective in the glovebox . I bet they will help by putting them in the pump when the , if the weather ever changes . Watching it rain now . Better than snow i guess. Now for a month of the dogs living in the mud room .
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Yeah, I bet they are pretty non helpful in the glove box. If the mileage is decent I may turn the fuel up some more to help the 62/71 along. Haha
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Ok i will bite and be the one who is going to look stupid. What is a 62/71?
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Ok i will bite and be the one who is going to look stupid. What is a 62/71?
No need to look or feel stupid. That is just the size of the compressor wheel and turbine wheel in the turbo. The compressor is 62mm at biggest point, the turbine wheel is 71mm at the largest point, and the turbine or exhaust housing is a 14. Which means it will flow 14cm2 through it. Typically you will see after market chargers listed in 3 number groupings typically. The turbo on this thing is 62/71/14.
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Today the rear end started making a thumping noise, so it is time to replace my apparently not so great ring and pinion for a new one. Hopefully the parts should be here Friday. Last night I put mud flaps on it and a steering stabilizer. While we're doing the rear end, I'm going to go ahead and put on a rear sway bar to help with body roll. She definitely sways a bit during fast lane changes at 70mph or so.
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Today the rear end started making a thumping noise, so it is time to replace my apparently not so great ring and pinion for a new one. Hopefully the parts should be here Friday. Last night I put mud flaps on it and a steering stabilizer. While we're doing the rear end, I'm going to go ahead and put on a rear sway bar to help with body roll. She definitely sways a bit during fast lane changes at 70mph or so.
Heck, I don't even have a front one, and she's fine at 70

That reminds me, I need to order some parts to make end links for mine.
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No need to look or feel stupid. That is just the size of the compressor wheel and turbine wheel in the turbo. The compressor is 62mm at biggest point, the turbine wheel is 71mm at the largest point, and the turbine or exhaust housing is a 14. Which means it will flow 14cm2 through it. Typically you will see after market chargers listed in 3 number groupings typically. The turbo on this thing is 62/71/14.
62mm Inducer on the compressor wheel and 71mm Exducer on the turbine wheel.
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Holy kick in the stones, Batman!! Man, that sucks. Glad you got it fixed up quick. I've been absent from this thread for a bit, but for some reason I thought you had this running a while back or at least were a whole lot closer than you actually were. I don't miss gelled diesel......ugh.
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It moves out pretty well considering this tank weighs 8690 with a full tank of fuel.

That is more than mine weighs with a full load of travel goods. Wow!!
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62mm Inducer on the compressor wheel and 71mm Exducer on the turbine wheel.
ill go ahead and break it down since Ryan said it all wrong and you are speaking in turbo code.

the inducer is the inlet side of of the wheel, regardless of its orientation. the exducer is the outlet side of the wheel. so, in a turbocharger, the inducer side of the compressor is the side that you see when you look down its throat. the exducer side of the compressor is the big side that is at the back of the compressor housing.

the exducer of the turbine wheel is the small side, or the one you see when you look up the turbos butt. the inducer is the big side of that wheel in the front of the exhaust housing.

since the space available for the compressor to draw in air is the inducer and the space available for exhaust to exit the turbine is the exducer, you can get an idea for the air flow ability and depending on all kinds of other factors the power it will be able to make from knowing the size of the inducer on the compressor and the exducer on the turbine. the area of the exhaust housing, or the third number given in the size helps you determine how much fliud can pass through the housing at a given pressure. that will help determine the lag or how fast the turbo spools and has an effect on EGTs and drive pressure.

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Holy kick in the stones, Batman!! Man, that sucks. Glad you got it fixed up quick. I've been absent from this thread for a bit, but for some reason I thought you had this running a while back or at least were a whole lot closer than you actually were. I don't miss gelled diesel......ugh.
this thing seems to have a target on the gonad area, or maybe the wallet. but at least it should be a nice well done rig when finished! Ryan had it running/driving briefly, but it took a digger when the engine decided to knock.
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62mm Inducer on the compressor wheel and 71mm Exducer on the turbine wheel.
Good catch, IDK what I was thinking when I typed that out.

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Holy kick in the stones, Batman!! Man, that sucks. Glad you got it fixed up quick. I've been absent from this thread for a bit, but for some reason I thought you had this running a while back or at least were a whole lot closer than you actually were. I don't miss gelled diesel......ugh.
Yeah, I drove it about 42 miles in January and then the oil pan drain plug fell out. I thought I stopped it in time but I didn't. Definitely sucked, but it's a lesson learned.

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That is more than mine weighs with a full load of travel goods. Wow!!
Yeah, I knew they were heavy, but holly crap not this much.

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ill go ahead and break it down since Ryan said it all wrong and you are speaking in turbo code.

the inducer is the inlet side of of the wheel, regardless of its orientation. the exducer is the outlet side of the wheel. so, in a turbocharger, the inducer side of the compressor is the side that you see when you look down its throat. the exducer side of the compressor is the big side that is at the back of the compressor housing.

the exducer of the turbine wheel is the small side, or the one you see when you look up the turbos butt. the inducer is the big side of that wheel in the front of the exhaust housing.

since the space available for the compressor to draw in air is the inducer and the space available for exhaust to exit the turbine is the exducer, you can get an idea for the air flow ability and depending on all kinds of other factors the power it will be able to make from knowing the size of the inducer on the compressor and the exducer on the turbine. the area of the exhaust housing, or the third number given in the size helps you determine how much fliud can pass through the housing at a given pressure. that will help determine the lag or how fast the turbo spools and has an effect on EGTs and drive pressure.



this thing seems to have a target on the gonad area, or maybe the wallet. but at least it should be a nice well done rig when finished! Ryan had it running/driving briefly, but it took a digger when the engine decided to knock.
Well said Ryan. And yeah, this thing has way of draining the pocket book or any account hooked to it. But, this is a part in building old trucks. This one had 179k on it and I'm sure they weren't all great miles. Haha
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