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MARTINSR · 01-18-2019, 12:32 PM

Here is a little odd "come on now" for you. The next time we complain about parts or material prices or something, check out this little one. This is a photo of a toner used in a color on a new Dodge truck we just painted at the shop. The toner you see in the photo is 250 ml or about 8.5 oz. It costs $167! Now, this isn't the real kicker to the story. The smallest you mix you can make of the pearl white color on this truck is 12 oz and it takes about 6.5 oz of this one toner to make that 12 oz! So, to make color matching test panels each one takes almost this whole $167 bottle! If this was a small job like just one fender this would be CRAZY as you couldn't use those test mixes for anything after you found the color you are going to shoot.

In this case it worked out because it was getting a bed side and cab corner and door so the test mixes were used as a base for the final paint. But it took EIGHT of these $167 bottles to paint JUST those few panels on the truck. So it took over $1300 for JUST this one toner for the paint on this truck!

That's not clear, primer, nothing, just this one toner to paint a bed side, cab corner and rear door.

Brian

tinydb84 · 01-18-2019, 02:59 PM

Is this used because you are trying to match paint? I cant imagine that is the cost the factory is paying to shoot the truck.

jamyers · 01-18-2019, 03:31 PM

I'm sorry, but that's insane $.

Yet another reason NOT to buy anything newer than the mid-'70's.

Custom 68 · 01-18-2019, 05:42 PM

Brian, that is crazy. I am curious what color the Dodge is?
I was looking at some greens and found some of the crazy factory colors are super high on those as well.
Thanks
Dave

MARTINSR · 01-18-2019, 06:22 PM

It's a 2018 Dodge Ram, paint code PWQ. And by the way, this was PPG, another paint brand may have way different prices on this particular color and not use a toner like this, they can be very different from one another.

Brian

Foot Stomper · 01-18-2019, 07:44 PM

..."I can't believe the shop quoted me $20,000 to paint my truck!!!...

Custom 68 · 01-25-2019, 02:19 PM

Thanks Brian some of those "whites" sure got expensive...
Dave

01-18-2019, 12:32 PM	#1
MARTINSR Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 6,001	Just to put paint costs you have into a little better light. Here is a little odd "come on now" for you. The next time we complain about parts or material prices or something, check out this little one. This is a photo of a toner used in a color on a new Dodge truck we just painted at the shop. The toner you see in the photo is 250 ml or about 8.5 oz. It costs $167! Now, this isn't the real kicker to the story. The smallest you mix you can make of the pearl white color on this truck is 12 oz and it takes about 6.5 oz of this one toner to make that 12 oz! So, to make color matching test panels each one takes almost this whole $167 bottle! If this was a small job like just one fender this would be CRAZY as you couldn't use those test mixes for anything after you found the color you are going to shoot. In this case it worked out because it was getting a bed side and cab corner and door so the test mixes were used as a base for the final paint. But it took EIGHT of these $167 bottles to paint JUST those few panels on the truck. So it took over $1300 for JUST this one toner for the paint on this truck! That's not clear, primer, nothing, just this one toner to paint a bed side, cab corner and rear door. Brian Attached Images __________________ 1948 Chevy pickup Chopped, Sectioned, 1953 Corvette 235 powered. Once was even 401 Buick mid engined with the carburetor right between the seats! Bought with paper route money in 1973 when I was 15. "Fan of most anything that moves human beings"

01-18-2019, 02:59 PM	#2
tinydb84 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Jose Ca Posts: 2,871	Re: Just to put paint costs you have into a little better light. Is this used because you are trying to match paint? I cant imagine that is the cost the factory is paying to shoot the truck. __________________ David Used parts build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=638991 My brother's Nova: http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=727985 Rear suspension rework: http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=750557 Instagram: myfabguy

01-18-2019, 03:31 PM	#3
jamyers Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Buffalo Gap, TX Posts: 216	Re: Just to put paint costs you have into a little better light. I'm sorry, but that's insane $. Yet another reason NOT to buy anything newer than the mid-'70's. __________________ My Chevy Truck Project Build Thread '62 Ranchero - 200 I6, 3-on-the-tree, power nothing. '71 LeSabre - 455 Stage 1, power everything.

01-18-2019, 05:42 PM	#4
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,930	Re: Just to put paint costs you have into a little better light. Brian, that is crazy. I am curious what color the Dodge is? I was looking at some greens and found some of the crazy factory colors are super high on those as well. Thanks Dave __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"

01-18-2019, 06:22 PM	#5
MARTINSR Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 6,001	Re: Just to put paint costs you have into a little better light. It's a 2018 Dodge Ram, paint code PWQ. And by the way, this was PPG, another paint brand may have way different prices on this particular color and not use a toner like this, they can be very different from one another. Brian __________________ 1948 Chevy pickup Chopped, Sectioned, 1953 Corvette 235 powered. Once was even 401 Buick mid engined with the carburetor right between the seats! Bought with paper route money in 1973 when I was 15. "Fan of most anything that moves human beings"

01-18-2019, 07:44 PM	#6
Foot Stomper Registered User Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 1,252	Re: Just to put paint costs you have into a little better light. ..."I can't believe the shop quoted me $20,000 to paint my truck!!!... __________________ So when is this "Old enough to know better" supposed to kick in? My 1959 GMC build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=686989

01-25-2019, 02:19 PM	#7
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,930	Re: Just to put paint costs you have into a little better light. Thanks Brian some of those "whites" sure got expensive... Dave __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"



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