The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Engine & Drivetrain

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-25-2018, 10:38 PM   #1
Andrij
Registered User
 
Andrij's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Copperas Cove, TX
Posts: 36
350 Gen I What do y'alls think?

Hi There! I have a question for y’alls, I’m planning on building a motor for my 1970 C10 to get it up & running. It’ll run (but it smokes grayish smoke if I remember right). I was just seeing what y’alls would advise for the rebuild.
Original block (1970 C10)
Gen 1 SBC 13 GM 391467 Date 237
Now I reckons the GM Code is 3914678 & I just don’t see for whatever reason the last number, but it does match up (along with the glove box ID) & my research has pointed that the block came in 3 varieties:
302 290-290hp 2 Bolt Main
327 210-350hp 2 Bolt Main
--->350 295-295hp.....68....2 Main
Bolt Cast Iron Heads were added later 14014416 1980-1985 305HO, 58cc, 1.84"/1.5" valves, 7 exhaust holes
Will be run by a 600 CFM Holley Carburetor Street Warrior (80457-3 1344) with Electric Choke
My Question to you, any thoughts you have or think I should do with it?
Should I teardown & measure before ordering?
& I see assemblies on Northern Auto (for ex: http://www.northernautoparts.com/part/ek-ek1070 ) & Amazon (same but +$40). What possibilities do you guys see for this project?

*I do apologize for these simple questions, I see videos everywhere on how to teardown, & assemble each individual part, what to shave, what books to read, & what people are doing to theirs but with Gen III & IV it gets kinda confusing if all that is compatible, I was looking for someone that remembers these Gen I blocks & can point out a few doors or directions I can go. Thank you for any advise you may have!
Andrij is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2018, 11:17 PM   #2
geezer#99
Registered User
 
geezer#99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bowser
Posts: 13,512
Re: 350 Gen I What do y'alls think?

If you get the suffix code off the flat pad in front of the passenger side head, it will tell you which motor it is.
And don’t buy anything until you pop the heads off and check how big the ridge is on the top of each cylinder.
You might get lucky and only need to do a quick ballhone and keep your original pistons.
If you find a big ridge you’ll likely be machining it oversize.
Or you might find it is already 60 over and won’t take a bigger bore.
If you can catch your fingernail on the ridge it’ll be rebore time.
And you might need better heads. Those 305 heads add compression but don’t flow well.
Could be a crate motor is needed.
geezer#99 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2018, 09:13 AM   #3
Dead Parrot
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 2,474
Re: 350 Gen I What do y'alls think?

What's the planned use for the truck? Daily driver? Occasional run to the do it yourself box store? Street monster?

Any idea if the block is original to the truck or was the whole thing a replacement done by a PO? If not original to your truck, depending on which block you have(302, 327) it might be worth enough to someone doing a period but not matching numbers restoration to justify selling it and picking up a crate motor that matches your planned use. Machine work isn't cheap and can quickly exceed the cost of a basic crate motor.
Dead Parrot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2018, 10:24 AM   #4
GASoline71
"I ain't nobody, dork."
 
GASoline71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Posts: 8,921
Re: 350 Gen I What do y'alls think?

I highly doubt it's a DZ302. Not many of those around.

I agree with geezer that the 305 heads provide nothing in the realms of performance. Anything gained by higher compression is negated by the crappy flow and small valves.

Gary

Gary
__________________
'cuz chicks dig scars...

My 1972 GMC 1500 Super Custom (Creeping Death) "long term" build thread.

The Rebuild of Creeping Death after the wreck

Quote:
Originally Posted by LONGHAIR View Post
I would never rebuild a 305.
Quote:
Originally Posted by prostreetC-10 View Post
I love using vacuum gauges as part of the carb tuning process. I hook the gauge to the inside of my garbage can and leave it there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marv D View Post
Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
Quote:
Originally Posted by cableguy0 View Post
Its cheaper to listen to advice given when you ask for help than it is to ignore everyone and wait for carnage.
GASoline71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com